Excalibur Additional Effect

[Garret]

There was some discussion earlier in the thread about a relic weapon being a 'gift' from a linkshell, or whether it was something an individual player should pay for.

As someone mentioned not all shells, and in fact most shells, are not like Iron or Order and simply don't devote those kind of resources to acquiring a relic weapon.

The Dynamis I run for my linkshell, which is an open Dynamis LS, takes a more middle of the road approach. We allow members of our main LS to sponsor runs to keep currency, at the moment this is essentially just a few players who were already well along on their own relic weapons (stage 3/5 progress).

We also allow other open attendees to occasionally sponsor a run to work on their own weapons.

It's by no means a 'fast' way to acquire a single relic weapon but so far it has been working relatively well considering we have attendees from a variety of linkshells.

As far as what 'weapons' are worth it I think to me it comes down to wanting to see some tangible gain out of all those Dynamis aside from AF2. If you aren't structuring rules to in some way work towards a weapon then it feels like you are losing all that currency as people sell it away to people outside your run who are upgrading their own weapon.

There is such a multitude of gear out there that I think no job is so VASTLY improved by any of the relic weapons, yes some are a more 'impressive' gain in what they offer a job. But every single job has the gear out there to do their job amazingly well without needing a relic. So whatever weapon people are working on, more power to them I say.

[Mifaco]

We allow members of our main LS to sponsor runs to keep currency,

Any provisions for said member not just taking the currency and selling it back for more profit?

sup Maleci

[Garret]

They're required to tell me their current progress and which weapon they are upgrading.

Beyond that just the honor system, it is stated they aren't supposed to sell it.

For those members of our LS who sponsor I know they use it for their upgrades, but allowing members outside the LS to sponsor is essentially a way to be fair to them since they provide most of our numbers. I hope none of them turn around and sell it, and if I found out they had they would not be allowed back, but there's really no way to effectively monitor that unfortunately.

[Squallx]

Thats how my Linkshell does it. About 6 people sponsor and we have them sponsor 3 runs in a row then take 1 run off so there is a little gap. This like Garret said isnt the fastest way but it works. 2 People are on stage 4 and 3 (including me) are on stage 3. Our rule is you cant sell currency but can trade with anyone. One person on stage 4 recently quit the game and gave his currency to us. If people wanna quit upgrading thats fine, but our thing is you can sell them but only to people in the LS. That way it keeps the currency in the LS. I do agree that the horn and shield are more useful to linkshells paying for an upgrade. Im upgrading for Excalibur and heard that the additional effect goes to the off hand aswell. I have been skeptical of this. Can any confirm?

Btw first post on here, but I read these forums daily.

Squallx of Caitsith

[Jeryhn]

Why would you offhand Excalibur?

[epigram]

Main hand martial.

[Lockecole]

Why would you offhand Excalibur?

There was a screenshot somewhere that the additional effect also goes off on the offhand weapon, even when mainhanding Excalibur. It's since been debunked, but was a rumor for awhile.

[Squallx]

no no. Not off hand Excali lol. Just someone siad the additional effect transfered to off hand. IE: Excali Main Joyeuse Off. That the additional effet would transfer to the joyeuse also. As I said Im skeptical about this but It would be nice.

[NynJa]

main Company Sword
off Excalibur


unless KotR is better than vorpral for WS spam....

[wartortle]

Ridill.

[RKenshin]

Ridill.

Too bad PLD and RDM can't equip it.

[Wizerd]

Ridill.

PLD would break if they could use Ridill.

[Jeryhn]

Ridill/Joy PLDs are omgpwn.

[Lordwafik]

Why would you offhand Excalibur?

so you can go all rdm/nin mandau/excal.

[Zalius]

He's actually a Hume lol. No clue how much HP he has, he wasn't in my alliance.

He wasnt in your alliance.

You have screens of his dmg.

From Besieged.

Without filters.

Noone has noticed this but me.





Kill yourself right now you asshole

[Garret]

He's actually a Hume lol. No clue how much HP he has, he wasn't in my alliance.

He wasnt in your alliance.

You have screens of his dmg.

From Besieged.

Without filters.

Noone has noticed this but me.





Kill yourself right now you asshole

If you look at the screenshot Kalia is engaged on a particular mob and likely has the damage input on that mob unfiltered.

Katsuma attacked the mob Kalia was engaged on which is why he happened to notice it.

His filter settings are not unfiltered for the entire besieged, just for the mob he's on.

[Parshath]

He's actually a Hume lol. No clue how much HP he has, he wasn't in my alliance.

He wasnt in your alliance.

You have screens of his dmg.

From Besieged.

Without filters.

Noone has noticed this but me.





Kill yourself right now you asshole

Not using filters correctly is somehow upsetting and makes them an asshole? Wow, you're retarded.

[divisortheory]

I turned all filters off for about 20 seconds to see what the Additional Effect damage would be like since he was fighting the same mob as me. You lose


(Garret - they were unfiltered for the entire beseiged, but only for a short time so that I could see what KotR and Additional Effect damage would be like. As soon as I got it, I turned all the filters back on.)

[Zalius]

He's actually a Hume lol. No clue how much HP he has, he wasn't in my alliance.

He wasnt in your alliance.

You have screens of his dmg.

From Besieged.

Without filters.

Noone has noticed this but me.





Kill yourself right now you asshole

Not using filters correctly is somehow upsetting and makes them an asshole? Wow, you're retarded.

I like it when people think im serious. I call people assholes any chance i get just cause, wasn't calling him an asshole like to be mean or anything.

You just called me retarded and your race is a galka. Gonna have to go back to the kill yourself thing.

[DrObvious]

PS: Who cares if it doesn't pull hate. You can do sword/shield (non-Aegis) on Wyrms, especially after the most recent shield update that increased block rate even more than the already acceptable value it was at. Even if you couldn't, there's more to the game than just Wyrms.

Who cares how much a shield would block when you aren't tanking? What good is a tank that's forced to eat sushi and wear full out accuracy gear in order to hit an hnm?