Change in Lower Ix pop method?

[Sylvrdragon]

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This was Yesterday. Bastard didn't drop my fucking cape though... he's getting easier and easier every time we fight him lol. After I get my fast pants, I think I'll be able to solo him <.<

We tried to pop him one day though and the ??? respawned in Mithra something like 5 times in a row, but I think they actually depopped for the 1 minute every time, can't really remember, but that did happen a while back, before ToaU.

[Suiram]

Thanks for the info on recent pops, although the method that Kupo on Pand uses is the one that hasn't been working for us lately.

[Seebo]

who cares about sea, toau owns cop

20 pages goez

[Wizerd]

I haven't camped this religiously ever, but the few times I did go, I make quite sure to time the amount of time the ??? was up. It usually ranged from about 25 minutes to 42 minutes, where 42 was our longest before repopping in another room. And I wasn't hallucinating or timing wrong. The most common numbers hovered 28:30 to 29:30.

Considering you can't just go there and predict when the ??? will be depopping and repopping, a random modifier makes sense for it anyway.

Just some food for thought.

[Turlos.]

I haven't camped this religiously ever, but the few times I did go, I make quite sure to time the amount of time the ??? was up. It usually ranged from about 25 minutes to 42 minutes, where 42 was our longest before repopping in another room. And I wasn't hallucinating or timing wrong. The most common numbers hovered 28:30 to 29:30.

Considering you can't just go there and predict when the ??? will be depopping and repopping, a random modifier makes sense for it anyway.

Just some food for thought.

We actually timed it to make sure of it. It started out being exactly 15 minutes up, then depop for I think exactly 2 minutes (might have been 3), then respawned at one of the four locations (including possibly the one it was at before). They then changed it to be exactly 30 minutes between despawns.

I can say without a doubt that it still does 30 minutes at each location before this last maintenance. Now if something was modified or changed this maintenance, I can not say as i have not been there since earlier this week.

[Paimei]

This was yesterday.

It's not broken, in fact they fixed it. It actually drops the cape now.

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...smr2/Ixdrk.jpg

[Kaylia]

Yaya, necro bump and all (didnt feel like starting a new topic for this, sue me.)


I'm just wondering if anyone has figured a way to pop it? I always believed there was some sort of hate you could build or something, but yesterday pop pretty much proved me wrong.

I got hate saturday in Tarutaru room on the 2nd Aern, didnt RR with both Qn up and we got deed. Next day, on the 2nd aern kill again (Galka room), I get hate again, we pop it, kill it 23 times before we finish the Qn (rr'd a last time after) and get deed to drop.

Like people said above, it's possible a small party help (we were 4 first day, and 6 second day) as opposed to 12-18 like we usually have in sea, but getting 2 pop in a row so fast pretty much destroy the chance it involve building hate of any kind.


Beside those 2 pop, my last one was the first Ix'Drk pop last year, when we were still trying to figure how to pop inside jailer/Ix. I probably killed close to 3 billions aern between the first two pop

[Raineer]

Are we sure it's not just random?

[Charla]

Things being completely random just doesn't sit well with many people. As for the hate theory it could be something like "every aern from the room with the ??? that you kill increments the probability of the animosity thing triggering on your character". Or it could increment for the person with last hate, everyone on hate list, whoever gets killshot, and so forth. Either way it's pretty clear that it still involves some form of randomness, considering the accounts of repops in 3 kills and the 2-hour waits.

[Kaylia]

It's possible, but the closer we can get to the spawn algorithm, the better it is. I hate wasting my time not knowing if there is something I do wrong, or if I'm just unlcuky. I can live with pop like Charybdis that have a shitty % of popping. Stuff like Ix'drk however still have too many random factor that could be clarified.



What I would like to know is how short can you wait between 2 pop? did anyone ever popped it back to back like Ix'Drg.

[Nagamaki]

Ix'DRK can repop back to back (well, as back to back as the ??? repop itself anyway). We got it to pop roughly 30 minutes after another LS killed it awhile back. They popped it and killed while we popped DRG, after DRG pop and kill we escaped and ran in, found the ???, killed 2 aerns and got the message.

[Kaylia]

- Same player can pop it back to back without killing anything.
- NM itself can pop back to back.


In a 3 months old Ix thread

Yeah we got a message from outside the room. That's why it's much easier to pop Ix'DRK if he's in the NW or NE room, since there's a lot more nearby Aerns to pull.

Can anyone confirm this? I've heard it only once, but it should have happened more often?

If there is hate involved, the only explanation I could give would be an independant hate level for every room that give the message once it reach a certain level.

[Charla]

We've pulled aerns from outside, but always kill in the room itself. Seriously though, we're kinda still working on the whole "don't go afk at ix'drk camp" part, plus it takes us half the time between repops to get everyone across the zone and clear the crap they aggro on the way.

[Kaylia]

We've pulled aerns from outside, but always kill in the room itself. Seriously though, we're kinda still working on the whole "don't go afk at ix'drk camp" part, plus it takes us half the time between repops to get everyone across the zone and clear the crap they aggro on the way.

When the ??? unspawn, send 3 people you trust to the other room, wait 3minutes and when it pop move the alliance there. There is at most 4 ghrah on the way, and one alliance should be able to kill them in a few second.

Kick whoever isnt moving and reinvite them later if they ever come back from their nap. It's usually the only way to pop this NM without getting an headache.

[MisterBob]

I got Sheer Animosity last night, for the first time in over 20 Ix'DRKs. I don't think there's a built up hate mechanism at all. Still, this thing is either retardedly random, or there is something to it. Last night it popped on the 5th aern kill. One thing I noticed is that it takes a little while to get the message after the kill.

Here's how it went: (We were popping it with a small manaburn party)
Aern died and RR'd.
A BLM (not me) got the kill shot on the RR'd Aern.
I went in to check the ???, like I always do after Aerns are killed.
It gave the typical "You sense an unknown presence...".
I went to click it again. The ??? depopped as I was selecting it.
Immediately after depop, I got the enveloped message, and the ??? reappeared, and I popped the NM.

This makes me think that there are actually 2 ???s in each room, one that can pop DRK, and one that can't.

Can someone check the .dat files and see if there are any unaccounted for ???'s?

[Ichthyos]

I believe the animosity message shows just as the grey name of the defeated Aern disappears.

[Kaylia]

I believe the animosity message shows just as the grey name of the defeated Aern disappears.

It does. I wonder what's the range to see it. I know I got it up the ramp, but could you get it..lets say out of xp range?

[AriaEminence]

I believe we were the second or third to pop this IX'Aern and tell about it, and ::ahem:: actually give information rather than hide it. Yes I'm pointing at you.

Anyways, we never figured it out either, it seems so random but there has to be a way to tell. On the day I did pop it, me and another dude were duoing Aerns for a couple hours up on top of the towers when our LS showed up and we decided to clear one room. I got the message.

I think that it's actually a fast pop, but due to dumbass people or misaligned chat filters some people completely miss the message. It's tough to tell, I hate relying on others for this sort of thing.

[nivlakian]

I believe we were the second or third to pop this IX'Aern and tell about it, and ::ahem:: actually give information rather than hide it. Yes I'm pointing at you.

Anyways, we never figured it out either, it seems so random but there has to be a way to tell. On the day I did pop it, me and another dude were duoing Aerns for a couple hours up on top of the towers when our LS showed up and we decided to clear one room. I got the message.

I think that it's actually a fast pop, but due to dumbass people or misaligned chat filters some people completely miss the message. It's tough to tell, I hate relying on others for this sort of thing.

You don't have to rely on others quite that much. If anyone actually got the message, then the ??? message changes.

Normal: You sense a presense
Someone has animosity: You sense a presence but it does not appear hostile

Just make sure someone checks the ??? after each kill and if that second message comes up, have everyone check it if you don't actually know who has the animosity.

[AriaEminence]

I believe we were the second or third to pop this IX'Aern and tell about it, and ::ahem:: actually give information rather than hide it. Yes I'm pointing at you.

Anyways, we never figured it out either, it seems so random but there has to be a way to tell. On the day I did pop it, me and another dude were duoing Aerns for a couple hours up on top of the towers when our LS showed up and we decided to clear one room. I got the message.

I think that it's actually a fast pop, but due to dumbass people or misaligned chat filters some people completely miss the message. It's tough to tell, I hate relying on others for this sort of thing.

You don't have to rely on others quite that much. If anyone actually got the message, then the ??? message changes.

Normal: You sense a presense
Someone has animosity: You sense a presence but it does not appear hostile

Just make sure someone checks the ??? after each kill and if that second message comes up, have everyone check it if you don't actually know who has the animosity.

Yeah, I haven't killed Ix'DRK since our initial findings on him way back when. At the time, it was all too fast and confusing.