So Wafik got a Mandau...

[Eaglestrike]

Only thing that would work is Judgement, 2.0 at 100% and 4.0 at 300%. Unless I can borrow an LS mates kraken I don't see myself doing a whole lot of testing with clubs, lol.

[aurik]

Fastest to tp with /sam or just shoot bolts. Unless you mean you need to skill your club.

[decidence]

I thought PDIF caps at 2.4 for Melee and 3.0 for Ranged.

[aurik]

I thought PDIF caps at 2.4 for Melee and 3.0 for Ranged.

Critical Hit adds 1.0 and adjusts the cap to 3.0 for Melee.

[Eaglestrike]

Fastest to tp with /sam or just shoot bolts. Unless you mean you need to skill your club.

Everything capped but parry...

I just mean clubs feel so slow and to gain 100 and 300 tp on lower level mobs for testing purposes will take a long time, unless you're using kraken.

[Kurp]

Kinda late, but Congratulations! :D

[NynJa]

doesnt matter if you're using titans or Kraken to TP off lv1 mobs; you're going to kill the mob on the first hit anyways.

[aurik]

Fastest to tp with /sam or just shoot bolts. Unless you mean you need to skill your club.

Everything capped but parry...

I just mean clubs feel so slow and to gain 100 and 300 tp on lower level mobs for testing purposes will take a long time, unless you're using kraken.

Its fucking slow even with kraken, because you one shot everything and end up running around a lot. Thats why you sub sam, spam bolts, and meditate.

[Eaglestrike]

I'd do it in Qufim or something, would still have capped attack I'd think and they'd last for a good bit of tp gain.

[aurik]

If your WS doesn't 1-shot them, you might poison your data with offhand hits or triple attacks. Take care.

[Eaglestrike]

If your WS doesn't 1-shot them, you might poison your data with offhand hits or triple attacks. Take care.

Good call, then yeah I won't one-shot them, to Ronfaure I go.

[Priran]

Most thf's will tell you that you use DE for exp/solo and SB for HNM, because SB has a higher fTP and increases the effect of SATA more than DE's 1.1875.

most THFs will tell you they like DE and not understand a single other fucking thing you said

[Lordwafik]

Reason I dont use (|Mercy Stroke|) is because it doesnt exist All my macros are (|Dancing Edge|) > > > ( <t> ), etc, so I gotta be creative

Now reguarding a non sneaked mercy, on exp mobs i'd usully get numbers between 350 and 500, yesterday in the thickets I tested them on Spiders (lol), frontal mercy strokes doing from 99 dmg, to 830. Very random. Average however was around the 400 mark, I just stuck to dancing edge, more consistent dmg when you're looking for a nice rampage-like WS and you cant use SA.

Now reguards to non peircing, same food in last night's pt on mamools, SA+WS occasionally did 900-1000 mark, sometimes a little less, but commonly i'd get more on the BLM or BLU mobs, when I could use SA and TA, I could add easy another 200-400 dmg, I got a 1450~ SA+TA+MS on a mamool ja mimer when my party actually decided to line up for it. Had a BRD this time, singing 1x Minuet which would affect my ws dmg.

[Siamese]

Had to stop by and say grats on the dagger. thx for posting the tests.

[42LS]

/offtopic ... where can i get the custom font/background/pointer like that?

[Nagamaki]

I've done some limited tests (not enough repeats to be 100% statistically viable due to lack of time, so others should do their tests as well) and they seem to confirm what aurik posted earlier:

jaMOD = DEX for SA, AGI for TA, DEX+AGI for SATA

Wrong formula : DMG = PDIF * fTP * (D + fSTR + MOD + jaMOD)

Right formula : DMG = PDIF * (jaMOD + fTP * (D + fSTR + MOD))

Judgment has a nice and wide fTP range and its a single hit, so it does work pretty well for this test and it makes it quite clear that the increase fTP doesn't multiply the THF jaMOD factor, or damage would be significantly higher, especially at 300%.

Personally I just like SB more than DE for most non-solo purposes, partially because Xolotl is a giant whore (0/56 since kills have been for my knife, 1/76 total) and I can't spend that much gil on THF while working on Spharai so I just use a Martial Knife and TP Bonus obviously favors a fTP WS. My WS gear isn't anything extraordinary, but still can get pretty decent results (no BRD, /WAR) :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...arkbite6hb.jpg

[Elcura]

Grats Wafik =O

Probably one of the only topics where no one has (seriously) said relic sucks

[Selk]

Is there a site that explains/defines all the fSTR and pDIF shorthands and calculations? Suddenly I'm interested in reading up on the math.

[aurik]

http://www.geocities.co.jp/Playtown-Part/6371/memo.html

It's in Japanese, so bring your own babelfish.

[plake]

congrats waffles!