Yigit Crackows before and after

[Mifaco]

Sample sizes of 100 make baby jesus cry.

And its been proven with a size of 1000, either way its proven.

anyone who's taken a statistics course knows that you can never be absolutely sure of a given result.

[Not Kuno]

I don't care about sample sizes or tests you run. The conserve mp is very noticable to me at an event and so I never wear rostrum pumps anymore.

[Koyangi]

Sample sizes of 100 make baby jesus cry.

And its been proven with a size of 1000, either way its proven.

anyone who's taken a statistics course knows that you can never be absolutely sure of a given result.

You do the best with what you have, and I'm not knocking Conserve MP, its why I prefer /blm on whm, but the dmg increase for me at least won't matter in any situation I use blm vs. wearing af2 I don't even have anyway.

[ciechi]

NO GENIE WESKIT? YOU'RE OUT

[BRP]

Should of tested them naked.

[Charitwo]

how about instead of making another worthless flame thread, you could have at least added to the conversation of this one

http://www.theorderls.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=9738

Search is your friend

kbai

[NynJa]

I dont know how many times conserve MP has fucked with my ugga pendant....

thunder4 at 71% MP SHOULD end the cast below 50% for me.....NOPE LOL, <mpp> states 65% lawl.

[hipsofsteel]

http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/976

onry kthnx

[SephYuyX]

Conserve MP and enmity are placebos.

PS. Test Yigit vs worthwhile boots like Rostrum or River Gaiters.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

Conserve MP and enmity are placebos.

I'm guessing you die. A lot. If not your tanks must be wearing that fancy placebo enmity+ stuff.

[Desi]

I hate all of you for saying its stupid to stack up on damage gear. Being a blm i strive to do the most damage i possibly can. The 2 more magic attack and 1 int over af2 will add 30 or so damage, and i think thats worth it. Now all of you say it's stupid to do that because you will die faster? Thats not entirely true, yes you do get hate faster, but if you are whm or rdm sub you have blink and ss, if you arent a total moron you can recast blink a number of times before actually getting hit. Putting on my dmg- gear with phalanx and p4 up i get hit for less then some plds do by nid/faf. If i do die, so what i died doing what a blm should do, damage. If your ls wipes to something because 1 blm died then your linkshell has no business fighting that monster as it is.

You say its stupid to do this but when was the last time you saw a monk wearing ravens gear doing SA WS's on tiamat. like you said whats the point of doing damage if you are just going to die, might as well stack up in full ravens gear and do a 900 dmg dragon kick, right? wrong, melees stack up on the gear that makes them do maximum damage, just like a black mage does

[NynJa]

I hate all of you for saying its stupid to stack up on damage gear. Being a blm i strive to do the most damage i possibly can. The 2 more magic attack and 1 int over af2 will add 30 or so damage, and i think thats worth it. Now all of you say it's stupid to do that because you will die faster? Thats not entirely true, yes you do get hate faster, but if you are whm or rdm sub you have blink and ss, if you arent a total moron you can recast blink a number of times before actually getting hit. Putting on my dmg- gear with phalanx and p4 up i get hit for less then some plds do by nid/faf. If i do die, so what i died doing what a blm should do, damage. If your ls wipes to something because 1 blm died then your linkshell has no business fighting that monster as it is.

You say its stupid to do this but when was the last time you saw a monk wearing ravens gear doing SA WS's on tiamat. like you said whats the point of doing damage if you are just going to die, might as well stack up in full ravens gear and do a 900 dmg dragon kick, right? wrong, melees stack up on the gear that makes them do maximum damage, just like a black mage does

I stopped reading right where I bolded.

[SephYuyX]

Conserve MP and enmity are placebos.

I'm guessing you die. A lot. If not your tanks must be wearing that fancy placebo enmity+ stuff.

I only die when I purposely over nuke and forget to rebuff and get triple attacked or some shit. Provoke and flash usually take hate away. Nothing SS/Blink/Stun cant protect me from while tank gets hate back.

Some times I over nuke on purpse and just tank, IE: ToAU mobs and Kirin, shit's just so easy only tarus have to be scared.

As its always stated, I dont care what gear setup anyone has, if you can play it right, all the better. Full dmg BLM can out live one who goes for -enmity, while doing more dmg. BLM are going to draw hate regardless, its how well you protect yourself and how fast your tanks are to voke.

[Desi]

and why is that? because your whole stereotype of blms getting 1 shotted after putting up a high dmg spell is out the window?

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

BLM are going to draw hate regardless, its how well you protect yourself and how fast your tanks are to voke.

Not true

[Demosthenes11]

and why is that? because your whole stereotype of blms getting 1 shotted after putting up a high dmg spell is out the window?

No, because if that were true we would have blms tanking fafhogg

[Desi]

not really, because blms will lose hate faster then other tanks, and their hate is also limited by their mp, no mp, no way to get hate back. im sure you know blms dont have any ja's that can really pull hate that great

[Demosthenes11]

not really, because blms will lose hate faster then other tanks, and their hate is also limited by their mp, no mp, no way to get hate back. im sure you know blms dont have any ja's that can really pull hate that great

ok, then why do plds do all they can to get hate back once a blm gets hate? Why not just let the blm take damage, since, you know, they are so damn good. Hell, lets just have a rdm/war tank fafhogg, he takes less damage than a pld !

[SephYuyX]

Even though Desi's points in his paragraph about nid/faf are lol, and some of the other things ~_~ he does bring up a point about melees.

WARs and MNKs dont hold back, MNKs end up tanking sometimes after doing good chiblasts and they have nothing to protect themselves with aside from a shit ton of HP and chakra, WHM can cast cure and cure, and screw up hate even more if the WHM is dumb.

BLM can do the same and protect themselves, if its a good BLM, theyll have SS/Blink on at minimum, Aquaviel does help and Phalanx as well.

Why should a BLM have to gimp theirself when melee strive for the same thing with very little to protect themself with?

Its all about smarts, you dont see a DRK do souleater and last resort at a dumb time, and you dont see a BLM open up with rapega.

Obviously -enmity vs DMG will contiue for ever and ever, and maybe no one is right. Im going to lol @ -enmity people, and -enmity people are going to lol @ me. bitchbitchbitchwhinewhinewhine

[Desi]

just because i CAN get hit for less damage doesnt mean i should tank everything. not once did i say blms were the best tanks. but you, trying to find a fault in what i wrote, take it that way in a sad attempt to make me look like the fool. Next time your ls claims fafnir, have a blm get p4 terras staff jelly ring and umbra cape, put up phalanx and learn how to recast blink so he doesnt get hit and interrupted and you will see that its possible. It probably is entirely possible, on my server a rdm/war has tanked aspid with no problem so i wouldnt put fafnir past him