Need advice Ethereal Earring or Magnetic Earring ?

[Lockecole]

Yes, because the few times you do use Paladin, it will be way more useful than any of the other three earrings.

I've seen HNM fights where they won SOLELY because the PLD had Ethereal Earring. What single item in the game can you say does that? (It was Nidhogg, he was solo tank, and hate was very sketchy, even with the Earring. He was getting smacked hard as hell, and only kept hate because of the immense MP he got back from damage.) PLD/WAR can solo tank things because of that earring, it completely changes how the job works. When you get hit for 600 and get 20MP back, that's huge, almost enough MP for flash back, almost negating all hate you lost from the hit.

[Judah]

conserve mp +5 > 3% dmg to MP.

dont care what anyone says.

the only thing I can think it would be better would be like... sky as pld/war... but we ninja sky... so... squirt.

or.. if ur in IRON.. and u use pld/war and 2x war/whm, then maybe yes...

otherwise.. converse MP chance proc on healing, flash, etc --- on top of that the guy has 3 other MP using jobs.... idk.. garbage to get the conversion... regardless if u agree the 3% is worth it or not.

[Sylvrdragon]

Hmmm... I'm RDM main and will be forever, but I AM leveling PLD next. I have had the intention to get a Hollow Earring because I like soloing on my RDM and I think that in addition the Enspell+3, the ACC+3 helps a great deal to make it, if not the best choice for a Tank, than at least a decent and usable one. Not to mention if I ever decide to level THF, then I can use 3/4 of the stats. I personally think RDM mains have the hardest choice. I can see a use for ANY of these earrings.

I'm pretty sure I'm NOT going to get the Magnetic as the only thing on the earring that I can't get better is the Conserve MP, which I haven't seen any real TESTS on. Everything people have said about the trait is ancedotal at best, not to mention, without /BLM to enhance the Effect, I seriously doubt that I will notice +5 Conserve MP, and I don't go /BLM very much these days.

Static Earring falls into the same category really. Nothing included that I can't get better cept the MDB, which I honestly couldn't care less about.

Ethereal will help my soloing with the ATK. HP is universal. Evasion won't help a RDM but it could possibly help with future jobs (But I doubt it). The convert Damage to MP will not mean much to me on RDM as the entire point of RDM soloing to NOT take damage. Not to mention that MP is very rarely a problem for my while soloing anyway, and on the things it IS a problem on, getting hit is pretty much death, so that free MP will be wasted. However, since I AM planning on leveling PLD, that Convert MP is a definate factor. Kind of like one of those items that is worth leveling a job just to utilize it better.

So far, Hollow is still winning, followed closely by Ethereal.

[yoshizz]

actually i'm not sure how conserve mp works..

converse mp + 5 = save how much mp?

[Sylvrdragon]

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/jobs.h...1792620;num=33

[yoshizz]

hmmmm that link is not working for me

[BRP]

What's the one that has the MB bonus? I think I want that one ;p.

[Krandor]

Static

[yoshizz]

static earring..

[BRP]

Everyone think its real dumb for wanting one I guess.

[Sylvrdragon]

O.o Link works fine for me, but if you wanna take the manual way, its Alla > RDM forums > Sticky > Conserve MP discussion (Also found on BLM forums most likely, if not the same thread, then likely the same tests and people)

[yoshizz]

i tried on other brower and the link works.. -_-;;
thanks for the info..

tonight i'm collecting the earring.. very anxious.. lol

biggest mistake in FFXI is i picked Bushinomimi -_-;;;
I picked tamas ring, seems ok though rajas have the best overall stats.

grrr >< , i still can't decide which earrin to pick

[Krandor]

If you're not sure which to pick up then don't get it, it's not a decision you have to make right away. Take time to decide which earring to pick up before going out and rushing the decision.

P.S. Ethereal 4tw

[genome]

I agree, don't pick the earring yet if you still have doubts, you can delay as long as you want.
I also recommend Ethereal, even not counting the damage to mp conversion (which is so unique and cool), the other stats on it make it a great choice.
You should consider if in your final ideal equipment you will really use or swap the item in.
As melee (monk) I use this earring a lot, together with brutal earring. If you pick one earring and end up never wearing it because 2 other earrings are better, that's not very good. I picked suppanomimi because it's so unique, if I had picked Bushinomimi I would never wear it today.

Every time you have one of those one time only you want to be careful and think about it a lot. Think about the people that picked Tamas instead of Rajas... They can never change back. And the only reason to ever wear tamas is for an extra -1 emnity over serene ring. For everything else you can always macro swap another ring and get the same effect or better (since you never really need int and mnd on the same spell and only need max mp on your first spell after resting). Rajas instead is so unique because you use all 4 stats on every punch and ws so you could never replace it with just macro swaps.

[Septimus]

Hmmm... I'm RDM main and will be forever, but I AM leveling PLD next. I have had the intention to get a Hollow Earring because I like soloing on my RDM and I think that in addition the Enspell+3, the ACC+3 helps a great deal to make it, if not the best choice for a Tank, than at least a decent and usable one. Not to mention if I ever decide to level THF, then I can use 3/4 of the stats. I personally think RDM mains have the hardest choice. I can see a use for ANY of these earrings.

I'm pretty sure I'm NOT going to get the Magnetic as the only thing on the earring that I can't get better is the Conserve MP, which I haven't seen any real TESTS on. Everything people have said about the trait is ancedotal at best, not to mention, without /BLM to enhance the Effect, I seriously doubt that I will notice +5 Conserve MP, and I don't go /BLM very much these days.

Static Earring falls into the same category really. Nothing included that I can't get better cept the MDB, which I honestly couldn't care less about.

Ethereal will help my soloing with the ATK. HP is universal. Evasion won't help a RDM but it could possibly help with future jobs (But I doubt it). The convert Damage to MP will not mean much to me on RDM as the entire point of RDM soloing to NOT take damage. Not to mention that MP is very rarely a problem for my while soloing anyway, and on the things it IS a problem on, getting hit is pretty much death, so that free MP will be wasted. However, since I AM planning on leveling PLD, that Convert MP is a definate factor. Kind of like one of those items that is worth leveling a job just to utilize it better.

So far, Hollow is still winning, followed closely by Ethereal.

That is pretty much how I came to the same conclusion. I did not listen to my heart when I picked Abyssal and soon regretted it; I refused to make the same mistake with Hollow.

Plus it is hot getting 26 extra damage when you have matching double weather or weather and day. (I need to go to Uleguerand Range and wait for double Blizzard weather on ice day. Mmmmm...)

[Mifaco]

Hollow earring = LOL

how's that accuracy/r.acc+3 treating you? do you have an optical earring to go with that? I hope you're planning on meriting enhancing to squeeze every last possible point out of your enspell, 'cause 26 damage with matching weather is peanuts.

I picked the correct choice, which is Magnetic. the MB earring is useless, since I don't MB. Ethereal Earring would be nice if I ever got hit, which I don't. All 3 of my mage jobs can use Magnetic.

Think about the people that picked Tamas instead of Rajas... They can never change back. And the only reason to ever wear tamas is for an extra -1 emnity over serene ring. For everything else you can always macro swap another ring and get the same effect or better (since you never really need int and mnd on the same spell and only need max mp on your first spell after resting). Rajas instead is so unique because you use all 4 stats on every punch and ws so you could never replace it with just macro swaps.

I picked Tamas because inventory space is the scarcest resource in FFXI, especially with 5 jobs now leveled, and because all 3 of my mage jobs can wear Tamas. Would I change to Raja's if I could? No, because my woodsmans are Good Enough.

[aurik]

Think about the people that picked Tamas instead of Rajas... They can never change back. And the only reason to ever wear tamas is for an extra -1 emnity over serene ring. For everything else you can always macro swap another ring and get the same effect or better (since you never really need int and mnd on the same spell and only need max mp on your first spell after resting). Rajas instead is so unique because you use all 4 stats on every punch and ws so you could never replace it with just macro swaps.

I picked Tamas because inventory space is the scarcest resource in FFXI, especially with 5 jobs now leveled, and because all 3 of my mage jobs can wear Tamas. Would I change to Raja's if I could? No, because my woodsmans are better.

This is the correct answer, and I fixed that last part for you. Sadly, the most use I get out of my Rajas is when I go rajas+jelly for farming/soloing.

[genome]

Think about the people that picked Tamas instead of Rajas... They can never change back. And the only reason to ever wear tamas is for an extra -1 emnity over serene ring. For everything else you can always macro swap another ring and get the same effect or better (since you never really need int and mnd on the same spell and only need max mp on your first spell after resting). Rajas instead is so unique because you use all 4 stats on every punch and ws so you could never replace it with just macro swaps.

I picked Tamas because inventory space is the scarcest resource in FFXI, especially with 5 jobs now leveled, and because all 3 of my mage jobs can wear Tamas. Would I change to Raja's if I could? No, because my woodsmans are better.

This is the correct answer, and I fixed that last part for you. Sadly, the most use I get out of my Rajas is when I go rajas+jelly for farming/soloing.

It's kinda off topic, and people are entitled to their own opinions i suppose, but 2.5 accuracy is not really worth the loss of
5 evasion
5 subtle blow
5 store tp
5 dex
5 str
Saying woodsman is better means you think you rather have that 2.5 acc and sacrifice all those other stats for it.
Also while space is a scarce resource in FFXI, the items that you are replacing with tamas are all items you can mule when you don't use them.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

Think about the people that picked Tamas instead of Rajas... They can never change back. And the only reason to ever wear tamas is for an extra -1 emnity over serene ring. For everything else you can always macro swap another ring and get the same effect or better (since you never really need int and mnd on the same spell and only need max mp on your first spell after resting). Rajas instead is so unique because you use all 4 stats on every punch and ws so you could never replace it with just macro swaps.

I picked Tamas because inventory space is the scarcest resource in FFXI, especially with 5 jobs now leveled, and because all 3 of my mage jobs can wear Tamas. Would I change to Raja's if I could? No, because my woodsmans are better.

This is the correct answer, and I fixed that last part for you. Sadly, the most use I get out of my Rajas is when I go rajas+jelly for farming/soloing.

It's kinda off topic, and people are entitled to their own opinions i suppose, but 2.5 accuracy is not really worth the loss of
5 evasion
5 subtle blow
5 store tp
5 dex
5 str
Saying woodsman is better means you think you rather have that 2.5 acc and sacrifice all those other stats for it.
Also while space is a scarce resource in FFXI, the items that you are replacing with tamas are all items you can mule when you don't use them.

Don't bother with him. He prefers peacock over faith torque. He prolly prefers noritsune over ouchi's. He's nutty.

[Lordwafik]

I think he's talking about TP'ing in, who frigging melees in STR rings.