Blue Mage - Feasible Tank?

[DrObvious]

MNK chi = spike, same with SMN, gotta wait for him to stop to cast to use a BP, etc, same with souleater, we're basically comparing whose spike dmg is better, I know if the thf gets cures he can do 2k+ b4 souleater is over.
of course blm and rng are still the best for Kirin anyway

Or you could have your smns use diabolos and not wait for him to stop.

[benny]

You might laugh, but a NIN with a full stack of Doton tools is a BLM's best friend at Kirin. The elemental debuff aspect is unresistable and it's very very noticeable. Rotating Ichi and Ni casts a single NIN can keep the debuff on almost the entire time despite the short length of the effect.

[deadzee]

sudai obviously only casted 4 spells on kirin. and got lucky. gg

[sephir]

Im starting to believe smn is the best job for Kirin >.>


don't be hatin' Nether Blast when kiting + Pred Claws when Kirin is standing still makes him drop fast.....dont forget that smn BP are almost hate free so hate stays on the tanks and not on the blm that likes to skill up his elemental.

[Julian]

lol@noob smns who have to wait for a kited mob to cast to bp

Not like it matters now with Diabolos anyway.

[SephYuyX]

So I hear that DRG is pretty good vs JEJ.

[Kaylia]

head butt stuns kirin if it langs omg

That's why your 2 blu should sub thief. T2T kirin is a joke now with them in alliance. Go go 20 minutes melee kill

Melee still suck at Kirin. Even when you arent kiting.

Hm? Explain me how we get 20-25 minutes kills with melee then >_> Zerk tanking+ cure bombing ftw! Chi blast mnk (stack 3-4 mnk per slot) and SMN owns too, but we are too lazy to rotate them, and we rarely have more than 1-2 smn. Blm are okay if you have an infinite supply of them and stack many per slot and switch them when they run out of mp, but a blm alone will probably end up pulling less dmg than a war with brd.

[Not Kuno]

[quote=Koyangi]

head butt stuns kirin if it langs omg

That's why your 2 blu should sub thief. T2T kirin is a joke now with them in alliance. Go go 20 minutes melee kill

Melee still suck at Kirin. Even when you arent kiting.

thf/drk with merc kris + souleater pwns kirin so bad

Souleater in general is good on it...but not as good as a MNK chi blasting or a SMN.

MNK chi = spike, same with SMN, gotta wait for him to stop to cast to use a BP, etc, same with souleater, we're basically comparing whose spike dmg is better, I know if the thf gets cures he can do 2k+ b4 souleater is over.
of course blm and rng are still the best for Kirin anyway[/quote:c2e86]

Diabolos's BP is ranged meaning he doesn't have to stop.

[epigram]

Fuck that, 2x pld/nin to kite, 2 bard for balld, 12 bsts and 2 corsairs. Puppet role + Beast role ftw.

I don't give a shit how long it takes, I just would like to see krin be chased around by 12 very angry buffed up crabs.

[Airshort7]

Fuck that, 2x pld/nin to kite, 2 bard for balld, 12 bsts and 2 corsairs. Puppet role + Beast role ftw.

I don't give a shit how long it takes, I just would like to see krin be chased around by 12 very angry buffed up cactuar.

[Cylo]

Fuck that, 2x pld/nin to kite, 2 bard for balld, 12 bsts and 2 corsairs. Puppet role + Beast role ftw.

I don't give a shit how long it takes, I just would like to see krin be chased around by 12 very angry buffed up cactuar.

Cactuar makes poor beastmasters (and baby jesus) cry. 300,000 Gil every 15 mins for a DD that is only marginally better than a 30 min crab that costs 40k a stack, no thanks.

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Cactuar
1,200,000 / Hr

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CourierCarrie
6,000 / Hr


200/1 ratio... that's not even remotely sane.

[epigram]

I would of said cactuar but they cost ~200k/ea and only last 10min :/ Of course with merit'ed down sic you would have enough time to pop a zoolater charge off for all 5, and assuming that they gain 100tp in less than two minutes, each one will do 2.5, 1000 needles on average. So 2500 * 12 = 30,000 dmg in 10minutes isn't bad... well I hope you can sell that wind crystal for 2.4mil though :/

Still CC hits for 30-50 dmg crit around 80-100 dmg, and will never hit for 0. So just that dot rate is pretty nice.

[Don Katsu]

To OP:
What was your gear setup and was stun moves the only blu spells you tried? Not a blue mage myself but I'm interested in hearing more about this.

[XxSlusherxx]

head butt stuns kirin if it langs omg

That's why your 2 blu should sub thief. T2T kirin is a joke now with them in alliance. Go go 20 minutes melee kill

Melee still suck at Kirin. Even when you arent kiting.

No

[Genosync]

head butt stuns kirin if it langs omg

That's why your 2 blu should sub thief. T2T kirin is a joke now with them in alliance. Go go 20 minutes melee kill

Melee still suck at Kirin. Even when you arent kiting.

GTFO

[Xavier]

SAM/THF rapes a straight tanked Kirin. Its just dangerous.

[Tanthalas]

To OP:
What was your gear setup and was stun moves the only blu spells you tried? Not a blue mage myself but I'm interested in hearing more about this.

I didn't particularly use defensive gear. I just used whatever meriting gear I had on at the moment: Martial Anelace, Walahra Turban (0 DEF), Scorpion Harness, Dusk Gloves, Brutal Earring, Triumph Earrings, Rajas Ring, Triumph Ring, Warwolf/Swift Belt, Amemet Mantle +1, Tiger Trousers, Rutter Sabatons. Still brought me to 703 DEF with Defender and Tavnazian Taco. I'm sure with other gear, I could reach 900, like Battosi in his post.

The stun moves I used: Head Butt, Tail Slap, Temporal Shift, Frypan, and Actinic Burst (Flash, not really Stun).

[Araius]

To OP:
What was your gear setup and was stun moves the only blu spells you tried? Not a blue mage myself but I'm interested in hearing more about this.

I didn't particularly use defensive gear. I just used whatever meriting gear I had on at the moment: Martial Anelace, Walahra Turban (0 DEF), Scorpion Harness, Dusk Gloves, Brutal Earring, Triumph Earrings, Rajas Ring, Triumph Ring, Warwolf/Swift Belt, Amemet Mantle +1, Tiger Trousers, Rutter Sabatons. Still brought me to 703 DEF with Defender and Tavnazian Taco. I'm sure with other gear, I could reach 900, like Battosi in his post.

The stun moves I used: Head Butt, Tail Slap, Temporal Shift, Frypan, and Actinic Burst (Flash, not really Stun).

Aww snap, a post actually related to the topic :O

/dies

[TsingTao]

Fuck that, 2x pld/nin to kite, 2 bard for balld, 12 bsts and 2 corsairs. Puppet role + Beast role ftw.

I don't give a shit how long it takes, I just would like to see krin be chased around by 12 very angry buffed up Lifedrinker Lars.

Ten minute Kirin anyone? :D

[Septimus]

I think blu/war and rdm/war will pretty much the best tanks for JoL, but so far i'm only lv60 =P. Once I'm 75 I'll report back to you how -41% (-47% night) physical dmg blu/war with defender and cocoon is on HNM like Tiamat.

They can wear shit like umbra cape which is more effective than shadow mantle assuming all hits are equal. Using earth staff doesn't seem to make spells resist anymore often than if you were using sword.

I am intrigued, why do you think RDM/WAR would be a good tank for JLo? And what gear do you have for -41% damage taken? Obviously Earth/Terra Staff, Cheviot/Umbra Cape, Jelly Ring. (But would you want to use Jelly Ring because of the +5% magic damage taken?) Are you counting in HQ Darksteel Harness set? (I would like to know for parry skill up fun times.)

Anything that does not involve Red Mage refresh whoredom fascinates me.