Tiamat / Cerberus random death and damage :(

[Stanislav]

i see our thieves die to tiamat many times for no reason
i was always wondering what it was

[Priran]

http://tinypic.com/macbbm.jpg

Was resting out of AoE range, had just been raised so I didn't have any hate. (Or a comparably insignificant amount).

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

Your background burns my eyes

[Priran]

Your background burns my eyes

http://f5.putfile.com/6/15722500236.jpg

Current screenshot. The one of Bubu is from so long ago, my LS still thought CoP dynamis was worthwhile.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

Your background burns my eyes

[imgn]http://f5.putfile.com/6/15722500236.jpg[/img]

Current screenshot. The one of Bubu is from so long ago, my LS still thought CoP dynamis was worthwhile.

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[Celeras]

We once had a blm of ours warp and switch to thf while Tiamat was at one percent. When he got back, he ran up, did steal, and died.

Can you counter a steal? He wasnt engaged when this happened.

Its not counter. He stood behind a tank that had hate. Tiamat hit him through the tank.

If youre implying that a thf took hate off our tanks after 99%, with steal, I can assure you that wasnt the case. If thats not what youre saying, i dont know what you mean by "Hit him through the tank" >.>

[Russta]

We once had a blm of ours warp and switch to thf while Tiamat was at one percent. When he got back, he ran up, did steal, and died.

Can you counter a steal? He wasnt engaged when this happened.

Its not counter. He stood behind a tank that had hate. Tiamat hit him through the tank.

If youre implying that a thf took hate off our tanks after 99%, with steal, I can assure you that wasnt the case. If thats not what youre saying, i dont know what you mean by "Hit him through the tank" >.>

He's suggesting that everyone of Tiamat's regular attacks is technically a linear attack.

[Krandor]

When you have tanks standing on the same foot though you don't see this (or at least I never have)

[Schlitzohr]

I don't have anything to add on to Cerberus or Tiamat. But I've noticed Boreal Tiger shadow hitting people a ton.

[Sylvrdragon]

Boreal Tiger is just a cheater, he still attacks while casting Flare, thats it. You have to back away from him when he's casting and he won't take shadows (I wondered for the longest time why my shadows weren't absorbing Flare when I fought him as RDM/NIN then I realized that by the time it went off, I didn't HAVE shadows, tried backing off him while he was casting and that did the trick)

Edit: I suppose it could be Counter, but I would have to test it by disengaging while he's casting and I don't feel like going out there right now <.<

[Mysterio]

I don't have anything to add on to Cerberus or Tiamat. But I've noticed Boreal Tiger shadow hitting people a ton.

whaaaat the fuck, now we're talking about the 55 Cap tiger? or am I mistaken? lol

[Schlitzohr]

It's a mob that you can easily test it on, and you can see it do a counter action and people's HP go down who aren't tanking and can't possibly have hate. Just because its 40 lvls lower than the other mobs discounts it? Maybe its the same thing that's happening at Tiamat maybe it isn't, I'm just throwing it out there cause it seems similar.

[DrObvious]

As a THF, I have noticed that anytime I stand behind the tanks I get 'ghost' hit. Its like Tiamat hits through the tanks on to me. To counter this, I tp from the side, and only go behind the tanks when I TAWS, hoping to god he doesnt double attack whoever is infront of me and kill me.

Did I misinterpret this or did you just say that you melee Tiamat on your thief?

[Priran]

As a THF, I have noticed that anytime I stand behind the tanks I get 'ghost' hit. Its like Tiamat hits through the tanks on to me. To counter this, I tp from the side, and only go behind the tanks when I TAWS, hoping to god he doesnt double attack whoever is infront of me and kill me.

Did I misinterpret this or did you just say that you melee Tiamat on your thief?

As a THF

misinterpret

[DrObvious]

misinterpret

Let me try this again.

As a THF, I have noticed that anytime I stand behind the tanks I get 'ghost' hit. Its like Tiamat hits through the tanks on to me. To counter this, I tp from the side, and only go behind the tanks when I TAWS, hoping to god he doesnt double attack whoever is infront of me and kill me.

[Celeras]

We once had a blm of ours warp and switch to thf while Tiamat was at one percent. When he got back, he ran up, did steal, and died.

Can you counter a steal? He wasnt engaged when this happened.

Its not counter. He stood behind a tank that had hate. Tiamat hit him through the tank.

If youre implying that a thf took hate off our tanks after 99%, with steal, I can assure you that wasnt the case. If thats not what youre saying, i dont know what you mean by "Hit him through the tank" >.>

He's suggesting that everyone of Tiamat's regular attacks is technically a linear attack.

Which obviously isnt true since all the tanks stand in the same spot.

[Ragnard]

Hmmm.
So this sounds pretty inconclusive, but I'm glad to know it's actually real and just not random glitching... it seems pretty consistently linked to TA?

Maybe I'll send some comments to SE, though making Tiamat easier is probably not on their priority list, nor should it be. XD

[ezikiel]

As a THF, I have noticed that anytime I stand behind the tanks I get 'ghost' hit. Its like Tiamat hits through the tanks on to me. To counter this, I tp from the side, and only go behind the tanks when I TAWS, hoping to god he doesnt double attack whoever is infront of me and kill me.

Did I misinterpret this or did you just say that you melee Tiamat on your thief?

Yes. We usually have a THF in for SC purposes. We arent loaded with many SAM's or DRK's in our shell. We can /SAM to help get 2 SC's in per touchdown if needed. (Its not like the SC is really needed the 4-6 SMN do all the killing in 45 mins or so. But it makes for something to do)

He's suggesting that everyone of Tiamat's regular attacks is technically a linear attack.

Exactly.

Which obviously isnt true since all the tanks stand in the same spot.

The stand on the same foot, but not neccisarily behind eachother, or not exactly behind eachother.

All I can say is, if I stand directly behind a tank I get 'ghost hit'. No damage shows on log, but my health drastically drops, or I just die. I cant say weather it only happens while engagued cause I haven't tested by just sanding there. But its not from taking any hate, and I am 99% sure its not a counter because it never happens anywhere but from directly behind a tank.

[Xiona]

Tiamat readies Trick Attack

[Priran]

misinterpret

Let me try this again.

As a THF, I have noticed that anytime I stand behind the tanks I get 'ghost' hit. Its like Tiamat hits through the tanks on to me. To counter this, I tp from the side, and only go behind the tanks when I TAWS, hoping to god he doesnt double attack whoever is infront of me and kill me.

typically, if someone said they did something

As a THF,

you could make the stretch that they're doing it

on your thief