An extra bonus/incentive from besieged...

[divisortheory]

I followed Zazarg around a bit yesterday and unfiltered NPC damage to see what kind of damage he was doing, he has pretty broken high acc compared to players but his damage output wasn't that good even for Besieged mobs. Next Besieged I'll go WHM and try to check out all the generals to see what kind of damage they do compared to players and to each other.

I parse Beseiged a lot just as a way of hammering my parser with the most ridiculous possible input, and Zazarg actually does pretty insane damage, it's usually about double what any other player in the zone is doing.

[Khamsin]

I followed Zazarg around a bit yesterday and unfiltered NPC damage to see what kind of damage he was doing, he has pretty broken high acc compared to players but his damage output wasn't that good even for Besieged mobs. Next Besieged I'll go WHM and try to check out all the generals to see what kind of damage they do compared to players and to each other.

I parse Beseiged a lot just as a way of hammering my parser with the most ridiculous possible input, and Zazarg actually does pretty insane damage, it's usually about double what any other player in the zone is doing.

Toss him a haste and watch him do even more (and skill up at the same time!).

I'm just wondering why things like enhancing magic would skill faster in Besieged than somewhere else. Its not as if your environment ever mattered for skillups. Just casting protect I on yourself over and over outside your mog house in San d'Oria should give you the same rate of skillup, right? Otherwise, I'm going to skill up summoning magic next Besieged...

[Cylo]

I followed Zazarg around a bit yesterday and unfiltered NPC damage to see what kind of damage he was doing, he has pretty broken high acc compared to players but his damage output wasn't that good even for Besieged mobs. Next Besieged I'll go WHM and try to check out all the generals to see what kind of damage they do compared to players and to each other.

I parse Beseiged a lot just as a way of hammering my parser with the most ridiculous possible input, and Zazarg actually does pretty insane damage, it's usually about double what any other player in the zone is doing.

Toss him a haste and watch him do even more (and skill up at the same time!).

I'm just wondering why things like enhancing magic would skill faster in Besieged than somewhere else. Its not as if your environment ever mattered for skillups. Just casting protect I on yourself over and over outside your mog house in San d'Oria should give you the same rate of skillup, right? Otherwise, I'm going to skill up summoning magic next Besieged...

Not sure about how Summoning Magic skills (I think with summoning you target yourself, so it probably skills up based on your own level)... but with enhancing/enfeebling/elemental/dark/healing, the amount of skill you gain increases based on what level the target is. So, if you are targeting a level 99 NPC, you are going to skill up a LOT faster than if you target your level 40 self.

[Kaylia]

Npc are probably considered as npc when you cast spell on them. Cast Dia on a monsters 35 levels above your, and you will get good enfeebling skill up no matter what. Cast cure1 on high level undead with lowbie whm and you get a ton of skillup.

Formula when you uses a spell on another player is different than when you use it against an enemy/npc, and since they are a lot higher than you, you get more skillup.

[aurik]

I followed Zazarg around a bit yesterday and unfiltered NPC damage to see what kind of damage he was doing, he has pretty broken high acc compared to players but his damage output wasn't that good even for Besieged mobs. Next Besieged I'll go WHM and try to check out all the generals to see what kind of damage they do compared to players and to each other.

I parse Beseiged a lot just as a way of hammering my parser with the most ridiculous possible input, and Zazarg actually does pretty insane damage, it's usually about double what any other player in the zone is doing.

Toss him a haste and watch him do even more (and skill up at the same time!).

I'm just wondering why things like enhancing magic would skill faster in Besieged than somewhere else. Its not as if your environment ever mattered for skillups. Just casting protect I on yourself over and over outside your mog house in San d'Oria should give you the same rate of skillup, right? Otherwise, I'm going to skill up summoning magic next Besieged...

It's because you're targetting a high level non-player.

[nekoshoonen]

Can't dispel those spikes either.

um... yes you can... need to dispel twice once for enfire once for spikes (it's one of those SE glitches where when a mob uses TP just shows one effect like Warm-up)

[Eldelphia]

It's fun casting haste on Zazarg.. really is sick damage to watch. Got to cheer on the Galka smashing the mobs to bits.

People seem to be keen to 'adopt' a general - I know friends who only want to know about keeping the elvaan alive.

Now I just with the volunteers would stop targetting the freaking bones...

We lost a level 5 undead Besieged last night on Alexander. It was the first time I'd been there since the patch to introduce the new NM's. The mob that seemed to cause the most problem was Lamia no. 9 (could have been 19) I think. Seemed to run around in a cloud of ele's who were wiping out anything in their path.

Fun tho :D

[solsovly]

Holy fucking necropost

[Priran]

Can't dispel those spikes either.

um... yes you can... need to dispel twice once for enfire once for spikes (it's one of those SE glitches where when a mob uses TP just shows one effect like Warm-up)

What the shit? Seriously, when does this come up? Did you do a search for "NotKuno being wrong about Heat Barrier"? Die in a pit of fiery hell, cockbite.

[Dank]

Did you do a search for "NotKuno being wrong about Heat Barrier"?

I lol'd.

[McSpiffy]

Damn, Idk how or when I missed this thread, but I'm gonna take my 64WHM out to next besieged for Enfeebling/Healing/Enhancing skills.

Unless it was nerfed like someone mentioned. o.O

[Kyreth]

Interesting...

Now someone needs to spend a rediculous amout of time making a formula to determine how many points every action in besieged gives so people can get 700 points and actually contribute to the cause.

And if my XP wasn't capped on RDM, I would make it my life's work to follow General Zazarg to keep protect IV, shell IV, and haste on him because he is a pimp.

Three guesses what I do every Besieged. Besides, he actually has fun doing these- as you can tell when he's the one leading the whole mess.

But heck. If you can't skill up magic in Besieged, you're not trying. Especially Healing and Enhancing. It's one of the best reasons in the world to slap Cures on the defender NPC's, Generals included (aside from the fact that they're better at hitting the monsters than I am). And Haste on that Galka is great fun, he kicks ass. Every NPC out there (except the BLM general, mostly) benefits from a speed boost. Buff em all.

And yeah. Spam the heck out of Dispels. Some mobs promptly go into rebuff mode and you can sit there emptying your MP bar while they do nothing but, making them basically helpless. I've literally gotten 16 successful Dispels in a -row- on one Troll- by the time I'd burned off most of his defenses, he'd sat there and recast half of them and I had to keep doing it...of course he wasn't doing much else while it happened.

Just watch the aggro. If it doesn't have hate and/or go into rebuff mode, you may have a pissed mob smacking your RDM into the nearest buildings.

[Priran]

Damn, Idk how or when I missed this thread, but I'm gonna take my 64WHM out to next besieged for Enfeebling/Healing/Enhancing skills.

Unless it was nerfed like someone mentioned. o.O

RESIZE YOUR FUCKING AVATAR. CHRIST.

[Kyreth]

Can't dispel those spikes either.

um... yes you can... need to dispel twice once for enfire once for spikes (it's one of those SE glitches where when a mob uses TP just shows one effect like Warm-up)

What the shit? Seriously, when does this come up? Did you do a search for "NotKuno being wrong about Heat Barrier"? Die in a pit of fiery hell, cockbite.

I can confirm from experience you have to dispel Warm-Up twice. Once for the Evasion bonus, once for the Accuracy bonus. There's a few of the new monster TP abilities that take multiple Dispels to clear off properly.

[Priran]

Can't dispel those spikes either.

um... yes you can... need to dispel twice once for enfire once for spikes (it's one of those SE glitches where when a mob uses TP just shows one effect like Warm-up)

What the shit? Seriously, when does this come up? Did you do a search for "NotKuno being wrong about Heat Barrier"? Die in a pit of fiery hell, cockbite.

I can confirm from experience you have to dispel Warm-Up twice. Once for the Evasion bonus, once for the Accuracy bonus. There's a few of the new monster TP abilities that take multiple Dispels to clear off properly.

THREAD'S FROM JUNE

NECROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Kyreth]

Whole page of new posts now. It's Reraised.

[TsingTao]

More posts from everyone. Perrier seems ready to have an embolism over this one.

"Hey, nice! I'll have to take my 40 WHM out and get some healing skill!"