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    ya was just put up.

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    Sell yo shit, mofos.

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    Dear Square Enix,

    If you actually pulled your head out of your ass and actually gave a fuck about RMTers, you could sweep each FFXI server clean of known RMTers within a week if you weren't so fucking concerned with that 15$ per month. If you actually bothered to look for who's supplying the gil, instead of "large scale RMT operations", you might actually put a real dent in these RMT operations. But, to be honest, banning 250 RMT chars out of 30 servers surmounts to 8.333 chars per server. I can name more than 8 RMT on my server (Gilgamesh) alone: Clergy, Halfcigarettes, Cigarettes, Sirlancelot, Dwoork, Macr, Waif, Wanxin, Tite, Psychic, Smallgirl, Kayi, Luckgirl. That's 13, without batting an eye. Maybe if you applied the most kindergarten of approaches (buy a small amount of gil from IGE, and track where it has come and gone from), you might actually catch some real culprits. Perhaps applying this very simple form of RMT detection may free up your development team to actually develop stuff, as well as will free up your GM's to actually catch people in the act of teleport hacking around.

    Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa
    Dear Square Enix,

    If you actually pulled your head out of your ass and actually gave a fuck about RMTers, you could sweep each FFXI server clean of known RMTers within a week if you weren't so fucking concerned with that 15$ per month. If you actually bothered to look for who's supplying the gil, instead of "large scale RMT operations", you might actually put a real dent in these RMT operations. But, to be honest, banning 250 RMT chars out of 30 servers surmounts to 8.333 chars per server. I can name more than 8 RMT on my server (Gilgamesh) alone: Clergy, Halfcigarettes, Cigarettes, Sirlancelot, Dwoork, Macr, Waif, Wanxin, Tite, Psychic, Smallgirl, Kayi, Luckgirl. That's 13, without batting an eye. Maybe if you applied the most kindergarten of approaches (buy a small amount of gil from IGE, and track where it has come and gone from), you might actually catch some real culprits. Perhaps applying this very simple form of RMT detection may free up your development team to actually develop stuff, as well as will free up your GM's to actually catch people in the act of teleport hacking around.

    Thank you.
    I hope he gets banned OoO

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    our RMT stil in sky doing kirin. and their mule in rolan still there, selling osode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa
    Dear Square Enix,

    If you actually pulled your head out of your ass and actually gave a fuck about RMTers, you could sweep each FFXI server clean of known RMTers within a week if you weren't so fucking concerned with that 15$ per month. If you actually bothered to look for who's supplying the gil, instead of "large scale RMT operations", you might actually put a real dent in these RMT operations. But, to be honest, banning 250 RMT chars out of 30 servers surmounts to 8.333 chars per server. I can name more than 8 RMT on my server (Gilgamesh) alone: Clergy, Halfcigarettes, Cigarettes, Sirlancelot, Dwoork, Macr, Waif, Wanxin, Tite, Psychic, Smallgirl, Kayi, Luckgirl. That's 13, without batting an eye. Maybe if you applied the most kindergarten of approaches (buy a small amount of gil from IGE, and track where it has come and gone from), you might actually catch some real culprits.
    LOL, so true.

    I could name about as many from Sylph, too. Not like anything is going to change from Square Enix any time soon, thats the way they've always done things. And thats why my character is going to remain inactive for quite some time.

    Perhaps applying this very simple form of RMT detection may free up your development team to actually develop stuff, as well as will free up your GM's to actually catch people in the act of teleport hacking around.

    Thank you.
    You mean like the guild forum crap that everyone really begged for? Or that MPK "fix" that they completely butchered? Yea, I guess with those two things, nobody could really care about fixing end game, CoP, or any of that other content that could otherwise be enjoyable.

    Oh, and they should just fire all the current GMs and hire people that actually play the damn game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa
    Dear Square Enix,

    If you actually pulled your head out of your ass and actually gave a fuck about RMTers, you could sweep each FFXI server clean of known RMTers within a week if you weren't so fucking concerned with that 15$ per month. If you actually bothered to look for who's supplying the gil, instead of "large scale RMT operations", you might actually put a real dent in these RMT operations. But, to be honest, banning 250 RMT chars out of 30 servers surmounts to 8.333 chars per server. I can name more than 8 RMT on my server (Gilgamesh) alone: Clergy, Halfcigarettes, Cigarettes, Sirlancelot, Dwoork, Macr, Waif, Wanxin, Tite, Psychic, Smallgirl, Kayi, Luckgirl. That's 13, without batting an eye. Maybe if you applied the most kindergarten of approaches (buy a small amount of gil from IGE, and track where it has come and gone from), you might actually catch some real culprits. Perhaps applying this very simple form of RMT detection may free up your development team to actually develop stuff, as well as will free up your GM's to actually catch people in the act of teleport hacking around.

    Thank you.
    Perma ban please.

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    The sad part is you can point out a lot of gilsellers by their lame names, stupid linkshell names "GardenofPrettyGirls," or even their bazaar comments about being pretty girls or all the tod's of HNM that they camp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by budd
    LOL, so true.

    I could name about as many from Sylph, too. Not like anything is going to change from Square Enix any time soon, thats the way they've always done things. And thats why my character is going to remain inactive for quite some time.
    No proof Sirlancelot sold gil, but Nynja will say he has anyway. Nynja on the other hand has no problem with gilsellers whose name begins with "Ny" and end with "nja".

    Quote Originally Posted by Nynja
    As for what I'm doing now, I'm taking the bitch route out and RMTing my shit. I'd like to leave parting gifts as thanks for the ride, but frankly, with all the time I devoted to the game and the shell, I dug myself in a RL financial rut by being jobless for the past year and a half:

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    Is this the same Flux from your own LS Nynja? or the one from Osiris? I get them confused :/

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    People will have their own opinions on this, but personally I don't have as much a problem with people who plan to quit the game and sell all their stuff, if they played the game normally without cheating and just contributing to everything instead of leeching or monopolizing resources.
    I think the bigger problem are people who do RMT for a living, gilseller sweatshops, various bots, etc that just leech on resources and even when they end up in xp pts are terrible players.
    I never bought or sold gil but if I ever decided to quit I don't know for sure that I wouldn't sell something (probably just my char since I don't really have much in gil or expensive items as I only really like rare ex stuff).

    Also while I agree SE is not banning the right people, they seem to concentrate on getting rid of excessive gil by banning bank accounts, but that still has a positive effect of reducing inflation. I rather they ban those bank accounts than try to reduce inflation by reducing even more the price of selling items to NPC or other stupid things like that (i didn't fish much except for quests but at least I could chat to people while fishing before, now it's the most annoying thing, and i am sure gilsellers bots get around it so it just ruined it for normal players)...

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    Why bother banning gilsellers? It's like trying to kill a Hydra by cutting off its heads -- two more will just pop up to take its place. They need to ban the gilbuyers. Gilsellers can't exist if nobody is buying from IGE.

    Tools are obviously in place to audit and monitor the economy, so they can't honestly say it'd be too difficult to determine who is buying. They can figure out who's selling, so they must be able to find out who's buying it too. It's not like they need to ban all of them, either -- they just need to ban a couple hundred gilbuyers and the resulting panic will spread like wildfire. A couple hundred accounts is nothing to them, as proven both by the huge subscriber base and by the fact that they just banned 250 today.

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    here we go again

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    I think if they just ban sirlancelot things would be better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grad
    Is this the same Flux from your own LS Nynja? or the one from Osiris? I get them confused :/
    I'm not nearly as much of an ass as Flux, but he's dead on this time as usual.

    Edit: lol @ Nynja "Twinky" talking to himself, sup?

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    Same sky RMT still present on Siren, yay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FFXIFlux

    No proof Sirlancelot sold gil, but Nynja will say he has anyway. Nynja on the other hand has no problem with gilsellers whose name begins with "Ny" and end with "nja".
    My comment wasn't really directed at him, rather that SE is banning the wrong RMT accounts. They should ban the ones EARNING the money, not the ones STORING.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    Probably banned the bank accounts and the stealth bot-fishing/crafting accounts normal players don't notice.
    I noticed a few of the fish botters on midgard have disappered, but soon after them leaving a new team has popped up in LoO. No matter how many times you ban them, another one always pops up to take their place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phlux
    Quote Originally Posted by Grad
    Is this the same Flux from your own LS Nynja? or the one from Osiris? I get them confused :/
    I'm not nearly as much of an ass as Flux, but he's dead on this time as usual.

    Edit: lol @ Nynja "Twinky" talking to himself, sup?
    Hi im nynja lol. I wish i had spelled ninja right when i made my name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6souls
    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    Probably banned the bank accounts and the stealth bot-fishing/crafting accounts normal players don't notice.
    I noticed a few of the fish botters on midgard have disappered, but soon after them leaving a new team has popped up in LoO. No matter how many times you ban them, another one always pops up to take their place.
    If they banned them every week for the next 6 months, the price of gil would rise to the point where only a few players would be involved in buying gil. No it would not eliminate the practice but it would certainly marginalize it.

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