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    Vrtra max summons.

    Anyone know if there's a limit to the amount of undead Vrtra can summon? I heard earlier 6 was his limit and found it a bit hard to believe..

    thanks..

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    There's no limits to how many Vrtra can summon, but there are limits to how many it can have summoned at the same time.

    Only SMN/BST mobs that I know of that have had the total number of monsters they produce nerfed would be Aern SMNs to prevent manaburning.

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    The dats show:

    ...¨á Spartoi Warrior
    ©á Spartoi Sorcerer
    ªá Vrtra
    «á Pey
    ‡ Pey
    á Iruci
    ®á Iruci
    ¯á Airi
    °á Airi
    ±á Lemures...
    So, it would appear to be true. Edit: Regarding at the same time that is as explained above.

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    Right, I figured it could summon forever, I speak of how many can be out at the same time.. I cant believe i've never seen anyone let him summon the 6 mobs, then straight tank it without risk of flail... (sleeping summons with bards)

    Is there something I am missing that would make this hard to pull off?

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    I believe the reason why it doesn't work is because the summons are considered NMs and build sleep resistance over time.

    Aglooiks and Ice Elementals are not NMs, and don't build sleep resistance, so that's why that strategy works for Jorm.

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    Ice elementals at Jorm build sleep resist but the Agooliks do not lol... same with the worms and elementals in Ouryu uncapped.

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    I guess it depends how long it would take for them to build sleep resistance.. I can see putting 7-8 SMN in alliance and pounding vrtra dead in 30min or so, straight tanked..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eternus
    Ice elementals at Jorm build sleep resist but the Agooliks do not lol... same with the worms and elementals in Ouryu uncapped.
    I slept the same Ice Elementals for 6+ hours at Jorm without any change in sleep resistance (don't ask, it was a LONG time and 2 linkshells ago)

    I was a RDM though, BLM couldn't sleep them for shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeryhn
    I believe the reason why it doesn't work is because the summons are considered NMs and build sleep resistance over time.

    Aglooiks and Ice Elementals are not NMs, and don't build sleep resistance, so that's why that strategy works for Jorm.
    They build sleep resistance very quickly too, although that may in part be because bard sleep is such a short duration that it gets reapplied often.

    NMs build sleep resistance much faster than normal mobs, like Fafnir for instance, but Aglooiks and Ice Elementals do build sleep resistance, it's just very slow to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stellar
    I guess it depends how long it would take for them to build sleep resistance.. I can see putting 7-8 SMN in alliance and pounding vrtra dead in 30min or so, straight tanked..
    Jeryhn, do you remember how many SMN we had at that 45 min. Vrtra? I think only 5, and we kited too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dank
    Quote Originally Posted by Stellar
    I guess it depends how long it would take for them to build sleep resistance.. I can see putting 7-8 SMN in alliance and pounding vrtra dead in 30min or so, straight tanked..
    Jeryhn, do you remember how many SMN we had at that 45 min. Vrtra? I think only 5, and we kited too.
    7 summoners. Kill was 42 mins.

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