Pahluwan Khazagand

[Kilik]

Easy way to test would be to look at the number of virtue stones you have. Then (without being engages) jump and/or high jump a mob a few times and see if you use any stones.

[Jeryhn]

Out of curiosity if you /ja jump and TA or DA, can a jailor weapon proc on the JA or TA? or does it count as a WS. Otherwise you have the potential (albeit small) of having a 6 hit /ja jump with Homan and Jailor weapons.

Well, have Ryko post some ss's of his Jump attacks as Drk/Drg, I believe he used KC and got multihits to process and do some very nice dmg on wyrms that way. If KC can proc during Jumps, I would say that Jailer weapons would have the same chance to as well.

They do.

I think he's asking whether or not the DA/TA proc can stack with a multihit weapon proc, on a Jump. This doesn't occur with normal melee attacks, so I don't see why Jump would be any different.

If it did, we'd be seeing a lot of Ridill (or Justice Sword)-Homam-Brutal THFs subbing DRG.

[aurik]

Virtue weapon additional hits stack with DA and TA.

[epigram]

And even if they did stack, DA/TA don't actually double or triple the amount of attacks you make, it just adds 1-2 extra hits on proc. At the most, you'd hit 5 times.

double 1 attack is 2 attacks
triple 1 attack is 3 attacks

If you can jailer DA on a TA for jump you can hit up to 6 times.
TA 3 attacks, where the DA goes off on all three attacks = 6 attacks. Thief with Justice Sword can attack six times with 3x DA on a TA.

As an example as bst/nin I have hit 6 times in one round more than a few times with brutal and temperance. Two hits with maneater, Four hits with temperance.

[Ichthyos]

And even if they did stack, DA/TA don't actually double or triple the amount of attacks you make, it just adds 1-2 extra hits on proc. At the most, you'd hit 5 times.

double 1 attack is 2 attacks
triple 1 attack is 3 attacks

If you can jailer DA on a TA for jump you can hit up to 6 times.
TA 3 attacks, where the DA goes off on all three attacks = 6 attacks. Thief with Justice Sword can attack six times with 3x DA on a TA.

As an example as bst/nin I have hit 6 times in one round more than a few times with brutal and temperance. Two hits with maneater, Four hits with temperance.

Er... I've never seen my justice sword swing more than 4 times in a row (TA + jailer DA). I was under the impression that it's additive like that, not multiplicative (TA * jailer DA).

[epigram]

I'm pretty sure I've had more than a few 40+ tp rounds as bst/nin. I can double check as bst/war for 26 tp rounds.

[algrensan]

some of you guys expect a lot from assault gear that's easy to get and costs almost nothing in terms of gil. if you think the assault gear isn't better than the gear you already have, which most of it isn't, don't bother getting them. a few pieces are slightly decent or for situational purposes but i'm just getting the full set for looks. ;/

i was actually referring to the pahluwan/amir assault set only (pieces of armor that you can see)-i don't know about the yigit set. i'm sure there's a couple of nice non-rare/ex gear from the assault rewards list.

2. miss and zanshin kicks in again (shadows count as misses)

Can this actually happen? I can just see it now...

Algensan misses the Sea Puk.
Algensan misses the Sea Puk.
Algensan misses the Sea Puk.
Algensan misses the Sea Puk.
Algensan misses the Sea Puk.
Algensan misses the Sea Puk.
Algensan misses the Sea Puk.
Algensan misses the Sea Puk.

It would be cooler if the max attack round wasn't 8 hits or misses.

i don't expect anyone to land their hits as they normally would while blinded from a sea puk's flash.

I'm not sure if Zanshin procs on missed Zanshins.

Double Attack can't proc on double attacks so I doubt it

i haven't tested this myself-i normally wear brutal earring full-time and use soboro sukehiro here and there so that wouldn't help. i read on another forum that nodachi witnessed it in ballista, where he "stripped a nin of all their shadows with a single attack, not once, but a few occasions." i'm not sure which weapon/gkt or what gear he was using.

here's a pic of the amir dirs (legs)-i'm sure you've seen a few npcs in the empire with them already.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4.../amir_dirs.jpg