Sooo...kings camps since yesterdays little patch

[SephYuyX]

If they were to add abj, Ridill, D.Ring, etc to ks99.. you'd see parties of level75s raping zones like Kuftal with their NPC's. I'd be one of them.

Because NPC groups dont do that already?

[Tilo]

If they were to add abj, Ridill, D.Ring, etc to ks99.. you'd see parties of level75s raping zones like Kuftal with their NPC's. I'd be one of them.

/shock, you mean people would play the game instead of staring at darters?

I'm on your side here buddy, lol. If there was alternate means to obtaining things from kings, I would be all over it. I'm sure the rest of my LS would too.

[Jeryhn]

would finally give SE an excuse to actually make this item obtainable

Rare drop from Dark Rider.

Fixed. Fixing with AV would be too cliche.

[Kilik]

If they were to add abj, Ridill, D.Ring, etc to ks99.. you'd see parties of level75s raping zones like Kuftal with their NPC's. I'd be one of them.

/shock, you mean people would play the game instead of staring at darters?

I'm on your side here buddy, lol. If there was alternate means to obtaining things from kings, I would be all over it. I'm sure the rest of my LS would too.

I think our whole server would do it, except for VC because they dont know how to do anything but kings.

[Raineer]

Too similar to Assault Breastplate from "Uninvited Guests", I've soloed like 20 of them trying to get one. No idea why the Adaman doesn't exist.

Did anyone ever do it with 18ppl, and does it change the chance of getting somethjing good at the end?

A JP on my server got Behemoth Hide from it with 18 people (and yeah, it's not "some JP", they are reliable enough to believe them.)

I've gotten like 18 XP scrolls, 1 Cloud Evoker (still have), and a Crimson Jelly

[Kilik]

Someone actually got the Assault Breastplate on Ifrit. I haven't seen the person wearing it, but he sold it to himself on AH for like 300g lol.

[Raineer]

Someone actually got the Assault Breastplate on Ifrit. I haven't seen the person wearing it, but he sold it to himself on AH for like 300g lol.

Yeah there is one on Siren that I know of, and it's been listed on the AH once but didn't sell it to themselves (so i'm tyring to be the first to do that lol)

[epigram]

Not sure if it sold or not, but there was one in RF on cerb going for 70mil gil.

[Septimus]

Someone actually got the Assault Breastplate on Ifrit. I haven't seen the person wearing it, but he sold it to himself on AH for like 300g lol.

Justinus is a bastard. I got a bowl of mushroom stew from my last Uninvited Guests. >_< Any time I get an item it is never worth more than 5k.

[Kaylia]

Someone actually got the Assault Breastplate on Ifrit. I haven't seen the person wearing it, but he sold it to himself on AH for like 300g lol.

Justinus is a bastard. I got a bowl of mushroom stew from my last Uninvited Guests. >_< Any time I get an item it is never worth more than 5k.

Best I got was a bison steak when that npc quest asking for one was released. (30k). I got maybe 3-4 xp scroll and 10 shitty item.

[divisortheory]

Someone would just make a more sophisticated bot if there were dynamic mem locations <_<

it would be really really really hard to get such a "more sophisticated bot" right. Sure, everything has to eventually trace back to a fixed location somehow. Like the first instruction inside a particular function is the one that allocates the memory, so you go all the way back to that particular function, whose code is in a fixed location. But the amount of work required to reverse engineer even the simplest non-trivial scheme based on dynamic allocation would be fucking hard and I doubt there are many, if any people who could get it right.

[ZamK]

Same problem as most here with the King BS. LS can't claim because we don't bot and the others do. I've written SE a few E-mails in hopes that they might actually listen (lol). Nothing rude, just trying to encourage them to rethink Kings and toss abjurations into a KSNM or BCNM fight of some sort. I see a lot of people feel the same way, so SE's probably just clueless. Maybe we if bombard them with E-mails? >.>;

(Main POL page -> Service and Support -> E-mail Support -> Comments & Suggestions, took me a bit to find it myself.) I'm not optimistic that they'd actually listen, but I doubt it could hurt...

[divisortheory]

http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/4356

would finally give SE an excuse to actually make this item obtainable

Too similar to Assault Breastplate from "Uninvited Guests", I've soloed like 20 of them trying to get one. No idea why the Adaman doesn't exist.

Wait, maybe I'm a noob, but Assault Breastplate comes from Uninvited Guests? I thought it came from KV or something.

[BRP]

I think Abj in KSMN99 is a great idea, AV dropping 1-2 king abj a pop would be perfect in most regards. Maybe adding 3-6 more kings would be fun, all with the same abj drops, maybe a new cursed set or three.

[aurik]

Someone would just make a more sophisticated bot if there were dynamic mem locations <_<

it would be really really really hard to get such a "more sophisticated bot" right. Sure, everything has to eventually trace back to a fixed location somehow. Like the first instruction inside a particular function is the one that allocates the memory, so you go all the way back to that particular function, whose code is in a fixed location. But the amount of work required to reverse engineer even the simplest non-trivial scheme based on dynamic allocation would be fucking hard and I doubt there are many, if any people who could get it right.

Just find the code signature of some function that checks for object ids in the surrounding area and use that to find your offset dynamically. The function itself will rarely change so you won't have to update this signature hardly ever. One that I can think of off the top of my head is the compass draw function. You can write an app to search the memory space for this function -- probably take a minute or 2 to find it when you first start your bot -- and then follow the pointer to object-id-land (probably located at a fixed location on the stack) and voila.

[Khamsin]

http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/4356

would finally give SE an excuse to actually make this item obtainable

Too similar to Assault Breastplate from "Uninvited Guests", I've soloed like 20 of them trying to get one. No idea why the Adaman doesn't exist.

Wait, maybe I'm a noob, but Assault Breastplate comes from Uninvited Guests? I thought it came from KV or something.

Nah, he just drops that rare/ex bullet and the Walahra Turban -1 for SAMs, DRKs, and DRGs.

[divisortheory]

How do you "find the code signature" of a function (if that function is not exported from a DLL)? Everything looks the same in assembly language. I'm not saying it's impossible to write a bot that works with dynamic memlocs, but with even half a brain the developers can make it so hard that it's probably not worth it for anyone to waste their time on. With static memlocs its trivial.

[draxyl]

How do you "find the code signature" of a function (if that function is not exported from a DLL)?

Why hello there Ida.

http://www.datarescue.com/idabase/overview.htm

[Khamsin]

How do you "find the code signature" of a function (if that function is not exported from a DLL)? Everything looks the same in assembly language. I'm not saying it's impossible to write a bot that works with dynamic memlocs, but with even half a brain the developers can make it so hard that it's probably not worth it for anyone to waste their time on. With static memlocs its trivial.

The same way virus scanners find viruses.

Unless SE rewrites those functions with every update, there will be a string of code somewhere that remains the same. Look for that exact string each time, and establish your reference point.

[Siatdiat]

I think Abj in KSMN99 is a great idea, AV dropping 1-2 king abj a pop would be perfect in most regards. Maybe adding 3-6 more kings would be fun, all with the same abj drops, maybe a new cursed set or three.

Noone going to comment on this?