Cerberus mantle, how much does it sell for

[aurik]

So giving them abjurations when they bot would be respectful? I know it was sarcastic, but id spit on a m body and give it to a career WHM in my LS before id give it to an LS that botted against me.

That's a good point, one that can be summed up in "honorable competition". There's some people on Asura I wouldn't let lot on a steam clock.

[Raineer]

So giving them abjurations when they bot would be respectful? I know it was sarcastic, but id spit on a m body and give it to a career WHM in my LS before id give it to an LS that botted against me.

That's a good point, one that can be summed up in "honorable competition". There's some people on Asura I wouldn't let lot on a steam clock.

It's probably different on every server. When your competition invites droves of people from Dynamis LS (or "trial members") just to help with a 6hr Tiamat, you could give less than a shit if they get anything.

[Koyangi]

So giving them abjurations when they bot would be respectful? I know it was sarcastic, but id spit on a m body and give it to a career WHM in my LS before id give it to an LS that botted against me.

That's a good point, one that can be summed up in "honorable competition". There's some people on Asura I wouldn't let lot on a steam clock.

It's probably different on every server. When your competition invites droves of people from Dynamis LS (or "trial members") just to help with a 6hr Tiamat, you could give less than a shit if they get anything.

But other LS "purposely" get charmed by the Corses they are kiting, therefore killing their add team!
/sarcasm

[Angelsin]

"O hay our bot was better than yours today. Therefore you should pay us X million for this drop that we got but are going to trash."

Did someone say something about respect?

I'd pay 10M or more (depending on the abj) for something I want that another LS out claimed my LS and were going to trash. I don't see that as an issue especially when if I don't offer to buy it someone else will. I guess your server is different.

So giving them abjurations when they bot would be respectful? I know it was sarcastic, but id spit on a m body and give it to a career WHM in my LS before id give it to an LS that botted against me.

Completely understood. I'm a main BRD for my LS, and I don't see ANY NA or JP LS's on siren giving/selling me and E or M body for my WAR after all their main or optional PLD/WAR/BST/DRK's have an E or M body. Even though I would pay for it. Getting an abj like that means one less abj away from having to camp the ground HNMs.

[aurik]

"O hay our bot was better than yours today. Therefore you should pay us X million for this drop that we got but are going to trash."

Did someone say something about respect?

I'd pay 10M or more (depending on the abj) for something I want that another LS out claimed my LS and were going to trash. I don't see that as an issue especially when if I don't offer to buy it someone else will. I guess your server is different.

Well when you get lots of money from selling otherwise-rotted abjurations I guess money isn't such an issue!

I swear someone said something about respect...but my memory is so hazy...

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

Angelsin, this is a game, and if people will be happy getting an abj that means NOTHING to you, why would you be a douche and not give it and make them pay for something that was mostly luck to get.

[Angelsin]

"O hay our bot was better than yours today. Therefore you should pay us X million for this drop that we got but are going to trash."

Did someone say something about respect?

I'd pay 10M or more (depending on the abj) for something I want that another LS out claimed my LS and were going to trash. I don't see that as an issue especially when if I don't offer to buy it someone else will. I guess your server is different.

Well when you get lots of money from selling otherwise-rotted abjurations I guess money isn't such an issue!

I swear someone said something about respect...but my memory is so hazy...

I guess respect means different things to different ppl. Being surrounded by JP's that camped HNMs for the sole purpose of keeping abj's rare and tossing them or giving them to ppl that don't even lvl the job that uses the abj is something I think is disrespectful. If you don't need anything from the ground kings don't camp. LS's that give the chance or option to get something whether it be a free or at a cost is a lot more respectful imo.

Also I said I think we've sold an abj (singular, one, uno, 1) not abjs. But I thought you said that you read everything I posted. Funny how both of our memories are hazy huh?

[Angelsin]

Angelsin, this is a game, and if people will be happy getting an abj that means NOTHING to you, why would you be a douche and not give it and make them pay for something that was mostly luck to get.

Because they offer?

No one has ever said "Can I have ______". The question is always "How much would you sell ______?"

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

Angelsin, this is a game, and if people will be happy getting an abj that means NOTHING to you, why would you be a douche and not give it and make them pay for something that was mostly luck to get.

Because they offer?

Try being more generous than expected. Its actually a good thing to be nice to people. Does wonders for your karma. You don't even have to work to be nice here.

[aurik]

"O hay our bot was better than yours today. Therefore you should pay us X million for this drop that we got but are going to trash."

Did someone say something about respect?

I'd pay 10M or more (depending on the abj) for something I want that another LS out claimed my LS and were going to trash. I don't see that as an issue especially when if I don't offer to buy it someone else will. I guess your server is different.

Well when you get lots of money from selling otherwise-rotted abjurations I guess money isn't such an issue!

I swear someone said something about respect...but my memory is so hazy...

I guess respect means different things to different ppl. Being surrounded by JP's that camped HNMs for the sole purpose of keeping abj's rare and tossing them or giving them to ppl that don't even lvl the job that uses the abj is something I think is disrespectful. If you don't need anything from the ground kings don't camp. LS's that give the chance or option to get something whether it be a free or at a cost is a lot more respectful imo.

Also I said I think we've sold an abj (singular, one, uno, 1) not abjs. But I thought you said that you read everything I posted. Funny how both of our memories are hazy huh?

I did read everything you posted; you're speaking in hypothetical: "I'd buy abjurations given the chance". Just like when you posted on your LS news, you apparently spoke in hypothetical "we'll sell the abjurations if we don't need them". And hypothetically, if you were a big seller of abjurations I suppose that you could easily afford to drop 10m or more on something you wanted but didn't "earn" by being the fastest macro that day.

Come on now, this isn't rocket science, please pay more attention.

[Angelsin]

Angelsin, this is a game, and if people will be happy getting an abj that means NOTHING to you, why would you be a douche and not give it and make them pay for something that was mostly luck to get.

Because they offer?

Try being more generous than expected. Its actually a good thing to be nice to people. Does wonders for your karma

True but I still don't see why you wouldn't take money from someone that offered to pay for an item they didn't/can't get. If BB items / abjs could be AH'd, do you really think ppl would give them away?

[Lordwafik]

True but I still don't see why you wouldn't take money from someone that offered to pay for an item they didn't/can't get. If BB items / abjs could be AH'd, do you really think ppl would give them away?

It's so you dont be a hypocrite and become JP's who sell abjurations.

When I was running my HNMLS, people offered me money for black belt items and I refused to take it, same goes for Aegis/hrottis etc. Even after they had their item, they'd send me a tell "You sure you don't want any money?".

Same went for the people who I took to dynamis beaucedine for their attestations, they offered to pay for the glass/pay gil, no. I don't want it, even though it'd benefit me a lot, it's not needed.

Happiness has no price, I am not going to take that away from people.

[aurik]

Angelsin, this is a game, and if people will be happy getting an abj that means NOTHING to you, why would you be a douche and not give it and make them pay for something that was mostly luck to get.

Because they offer?

Try being more generous than expected. Its actually a good thing to be nice to people. Does wonders for your karma

True but I still don't see why you wouldn't take money from someone that offered to pay for an item they didn't/can't get. If BB items / abjs could be AH'd, do you really think ppl would give them away?

But they're not ah'able. Amazing, isn't it! It's almost like the designers of the game intend them not to be buyable commodities.

My ex-LS was offered money for ra/ex items in the past and we never accepted gil for them.

Edit: it wasn't Wafik's LS either.

Edit 2: why the hell did you send me a black beetle blood Wafik?

[Lordwafik]

Edit 2: why the hell did you send me a black beetle blood Wafik?

I got it in a BCNM, and I know it's used for blue capes, so I sent you it.

[aurik]

k, I'm going to make an aketon with it tho.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

True but I still don't see why you wouldn't take money from someone that offered to pay for an item they didn't/can't get. If BB items / abjs could be AH'd, do you really think ppl would give them away?

It's so you dont be a hypocrite and become JP's who sell abjurations.

When I was running my HNMLS, people offered me money for black belt items and I refused to take it, same goes for Aegis/hrottis etc. Even after they had their item, they'd send me a tell "You sure you don't want any money?".

Same went for the people who I took to dynamis beaucedine for their attestations, they offered to pay for the glass/pay gil, no. I don't want it, even though it'd benefit me a lot, it's not needed.

Happiness has no price, I am not going to take that away from people.

I couldn't agree with you more wafik. <3 you this time.

[Veli]

I'm suprised that mantle sells for over 5m. The people I see walking around with it would be better off with foragers mantle. Theres like a better mantle for every job. I would sell NQ for 5m HQ for 20-25m.

Are ya stupid? You're saying Forager's Mantle is better than Cerberus Mantle... @_@; (even the NQ)

Well technically for pure DD purposes, Forager's(STR+3 ATT+15) is better then NQ (STR+3 ATT+12 ENM+3) hands down, since a pure DD doesnt want enmity (most of the time) and its 3 less attack. HQ on the other hand (STR+4 ATT+15 ENM+4) is amazing for just about any job, unless you're a DD that is in danger of pulling hate on an HNM. (Cerberus, Fafnir)

And yeah...not that we'll ever sell one, but we've had offers of 80M+ for HQs, so no way would an HQ go for 25M.

I bet you could get ~150m+ for an HQ mantle

lmao... If you could get over 50m for any tier 1 synth the buyer should be shot. I see DRKS and WARs wearing the nq mantle over foragers. They aint tanking just pure dd.

[Angelsin]

"O hay our bot was better than yours today. Therefore you should pay us X million for this drop that we got but are going to trash."

Did someone say something about respect?

I'd pay 10M or more (depending on the abj) for something I want that another LS out claimed my LS and were going to trash. I don't see that as an issue especially when if I don't offer to buy it someone else will. I guess your server is different.

Well when you get lots of money from selling otherwise-rotted abjurations I guess money isn't such an issue!

I swear someone said something about respect...but my memory is so hazy...

I guess respect means different things to different ppl. Being surrounded by JP's that camped HNMs for the sole purpose of keeping abj's rare and tossing them or giving them to ppl that don't even lvl the job that uses the abj is something I think is disrespectful. If you don't need anything from the ground kings don't camp. LS's that give the chance or option to get something whether it be a free or at a cost is a lot more respectful imo.

Also I said I think we've sold an abj (singular, one, uno, 1) not abjs. But I thought you said that you read everything I posted. Funny how both of our memories are hazy huh?

I did read everything you posted; you're speaking in hypothetical: "I'd buy abjurations given the chance". Just like when you posted on your LS news, you apparently spoke in hypothetical "we'll sell the abjurations if we don't need them". And hypothetically, if you were a big seller of abjurations I suppose that you could easily afford to drop 10m or more on something you wanted but didn't "earn" by being the fastest macro that day.

Come on now, this isn't rocket science, please pay more attention.

No it's not rocket science I agree. When I said I think we sold 1 abj that's not abjs. We have sold a fair amount of BB items and mainly to JP's. The JP LS I've talked about in my post on my forum has even kept BB items from ppl because they were NA or they didn't feel like selling it that day. And like I said to maxx, ppl offer to buy.

[Lordwafik]

http://www.fcpotawatomi.com/aug_15_02/just_say_no.gif

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

And like I said to maxx, ppl offer to buy.

And you just can't be a better person than you're expected to be.