Cerberus mantle, how much does it sell for

[Roranora]

You're right, curbombing a blm for 1 minute while the tanks try to pry hate off a "2.5k mb" (thats your words) wont draw hate.



Wheres that moron blm who "tanks faf better than a pld", lets get his input.

You won't.. lol.. that's like two cure3s, if that, from the mages without hate, while most go through for 0.. and in way less than a minute, Fafnir is hitting tank shadows again or I'm dead.. you're talking like I'm making mages just spit out stupid amounts of hate, when, I don't how good your tanks are, but all our whms do at fafnir is haste and banish3 and regen3 and shell4 if it's roared.. please don't make me go in-depth on how effecient healer-tank batteries can be on this challenging fight.

[NynJa]

You're right, curbombing a blm for 1 minute while the tanks try to pry hate off a "2.5k mb" (thats your words) wont draw hate.



Wheres that moron blm who "tanks faf better than a pld", lets get his input.

You won't.. lol.. that's like two cure3s, if that, from the mages without hate, while most go through for 0.. and in way less than a minute, Fafnir is hitting tank shadows again or I'm dead.. you're talking like I'm making mages just spit out stupid amounts of hate, when, I don't how good your tanks are, but all our whms do at fafnir is haste and banish3 and regen3 and shell4 if it's roared.. please don't make me go in-depth on how effecient healer-tank batteries can be on this challenging fight.

Fafnir must hit your pld's for 10 dmg....

Sorry, but the only way a PLD gets hate back from a "2.5k" MB in about 10 seconds is the blm dying.

[Roranora]

Or the BLM losing that hate.. 4 hits in a row for 350 damage is a significant amount of hate lost.. woot game basics with Nynja again...

[epigram]

I don't know that many blm that can take 350 dmg * 4.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

Or the BLM losing that hate.. 4 hits in a row for 350 damage is a significant amount of hate lost.. woot game basics with Nynja again...

And one deadass BLM

[epigram]

Maybe a galka with a lot of +hp gear and full hp merits.

[Gatsby]

Maybe a galka with a lot of +hp gear and full hp merits.

Then how could he get off a tier 1 nuke?

[NynJa]

Or the BLM losing that hate.. 4 hits in a row for 350 damage is a significant amount of hate lost.. woot game basics with Nynja again...

2shotting a taru before anyone can even react is an even better amount of hate loss.

Sorry, unlike you, I'm not spitting out bullshit to make me or my LS look better than they really are. You say its game basics, I say you're full of shit.

[Raineer]

Or the BLM losing that hate.. 4 hits in a row for 350 damage is a significant amount of hate lost.. woot game basics with Nynja again...

Tanks seem to have a theory now that it's just getting hit, not the amount of damage done.

[Roranora]

holy shit fafnir doesn't have quadruple attack.. you receive cures during it.. is no linkshell capable of curing a non-tank?

[NynJa]

Or the BLM losing that hate.. 4 hits in a row for 350 damage is a significant amount of hate lost.. woot game basics with Nynja again...

Tanks seem to have a theory now that it's just getting hit, not the amount of damage done.

Lets go back to the whm's and rdm's getting a shitload of hate keeping some dumb fuck who wanted to stroke his e-peen alive.

You overrate enmity gear if you truly think that a whm and rdm wont get hate from curebombing some shmuck like that.

[Roranora]

Nynja.. it started with you being afraid to do 1400 damage on Fafnir because you'd die.. you're a hume, I, as a taru, am not afraid to do well over 2k and receive cures or die, either way, no harm is done to the fight of fucking Fafnir.. yes it's e-peen because it's an outdated fight.. if you think I have to boast about my linkshell on Fafnir, you're sorely mistaken, if you think I'm pulling shit out of my ass because I can assist fafnir after an MB, return my name and say "cure me" before I get hit once and then receive cures after a round of attacks and continually until it's off me, and on the tanks, not on the rdms and whms who threw me 2 or 3 cures each... then yes, it is game basics, dipshit

[TwinkysSister]

I log out often, problem solved.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

Everybody should use DRGs. Super jump solves all your problems.

[NynJa]

Hey, you prefer getting curebombed to do some e-peen dmg, knock yourself out.

I enjoy fighting the mob, not getting booted from the alliance because I'm weakened. Maybe things work differently on your server, but where I come from, if you show up to a king camp with 12 ppl, you arent claiming a god damn thing.


A lot of people her exaggerate shit to back up their claims. "HAY FAFNIR IN 8 MINUTES WITH 6 PEOPLE LOL". Theres a lot of bullshit that runs around here, and most of it comes from BLM's. Thats pretty factual if I say so myself. You want some of this bullshit I say you talk ?? 2500 MB...ok. Most I've seen, from anyone on my server, is like 1900 T4 with double thunder, dont remember what day I've never seen anyone break 2k. Now, you say you can do 600 more dmg than that ?? I dont think the extra 1 MAB from Genie Weskit, the 1 extra MAB from Zenith+1 and the 10 extra MAB from Sorc Ring (at the expense of 5 INT) will cover 600 dmg.

But hey, those people who did do that kinda dmg, dropped dead before their dmg even showed in the log. So, I'm saying, a 1.9k MB will get someone instantly killed....this isnt left to my LS, this is in general, from NA's, to those morons Osiris, to the JP's. I guess your LS is better than my entire server, right ??



You can feed your bullshit to some clowns at KI or Alla, that shit wont roll with me.

[Roranora]

Hey, you prefer getting curebombed to do some e-peen dmg, knock yourself out.

That was the whole jist of my first post, in the case of Fafnir, hell yes. And we don't get kicked from the ally.. rarely have that many there.

As for you not buying the bullshit, lol.. it's not often, but another Fafnir in even decent conditions (weather+windy control is fine) can crush 1900 so badly, and no, with Thundaga III. I just did 2204 Thunder IV after the first maintenance of the two without sorcerer's ring and without republic circlet.. Jesus you're sad.

[NynJa]

Hey, you prefer getting curebombed to do some e-peen dmg, knock yourself out.

That was the whole jist of my first post, in the case of Fafnir, hell yes. And we don't get kicked from the ally.. rarely have that many there.

I enjoy fighting the mob, not getting booted from the alliance because I'm weakened. Maybe things work differently on your server, but where I come from, if you show up to a king camp with 12 ppl, you arent claiming a god damn thing.

way to read idiot.

[TwinkysSister]

I almost always phalanx before mb. ;;

[Roranora]

The "way to read idiot" would applicable to you from not getting the first post until a page later. And just 8 people with FFXI App (or your preference) and decent communcation on delays will get you a solid claim chance on any server. '-'

And, on that specific MB I mentioned, I didn't pull hate, so I guess we are better than the rest of your server? I'm sorry you can't buy anything you've never seen, but this isn't the first time, with you, at least.

[chiz]

I don't know why you guys treat Fafnir like it's Bahamut BC or something.

I'm not, I just use Fafnir as an example because its a decently challenging mob that's pretty fair to all damage types and can be killed on a daily basis. The majority of the HNM community has experience with this mob and therefore, there's a pretty common frame of reference. Its similar to Kirin being used as a benchmark in the past (well RNGs used to, pre-nerf anyways).

I think I found solution. Put war/nin and mnk/war for similar dmg output, and they can tank when they pull hate.

War/nin can and has tanked Fafnir many times, whether intentionally or unintentionally. End result, their damage suffers. Leaving Berserk + Aggressor up the entire time can quickly turn into a 2-shot KO if you get any combination of wing + double crit + terror. I've seen it happen enough to know it happens a lot lol. Again, War/nin would undoubtedly top a THF on the parser on fafhogg if it wasn't for that annoying thing called Terror that immobilizes you for idk, 20% of the fight.

Never seen Mnk/war attempt to tank Fafnir (I'm sure whms are jumping at the opportunity to pour Cure Vs into that bottomless 1800 HP mp sink), but I've heard of plenty of LS using it to fill the Fragmentation SC slot in their alliances. My LS has never been in that position but I'm sure it can put out more damage than the 1-1.5k damage every 3 mins you get from Chi Blast.