Cerberus mantle, how much does it sell for

[Raineer]

As for you not buying the bullshit, lol.. it's not often, but another Fafnir in even decent conditions (weather+windy control is fine) can crush 1900 so badly, and no, with Thundaga III. I just did 2204 Thunder IV after the first maintenance of the two without sorcerer's ring and without republic circlet.. Jesus you're sad.

2204 T4 with no weather and no latent ring...woooooooooooow....

I don't even think you should post on these forums, us mere mortals aren't even worthy of talking to you lol

[chiz]

Hey, you prefer getting curebombed to do some e-peen dmg, knock yourself out.

That was the whole jist of my first post, in the case of Fafnir, hell yes. And we don't get kicked from the ally.. rarely have that many there.

As for you not buying the bullshit, lol.. it's not often, but another Fafnir in even decent conditions (weather+windy control is fine) can crush 1900 so badly, and no, with Thundaga III. I just did 2204 Thunder IV after the first maintenance of the two without sorcerer's ring and without republic circlet.. Jesus you're sad.

I've seen 2k+ T4 as well, just need your vanilla BLM equipment, rairin obi, merits, af2 legs, af2 hands on lightnings day with double lightning.

[Wizerd]

I don't understand why people still use BLMs on Fafnir/Nidhogg when they could just zerg it with 3-4 MNK/NINs and a couple NIN, with several healers/summoners to keep them alive through wings while they rip through the mob incredibly fast. But hey, safety over fun right?

[Tyche]

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/ChimmChimm/1.png

Theres one he did of something in the realm of 2100 on a nidhogg, but i have nfc where id find it.

[Roranora]

As for you not buying the bullshit, lol.. it's not often, but another Fafnir in even decent conditions (weather+windy control is fine) can crush 1900 so badly, and no, with Thundaga III. I just did 2204 Thunder IV after the first maintenance of the two without sorcerer's ring and without republic circlet.. Jesus you're sad.

2204 T4 with no weather and no latent ring...woooooooooooow....

I don't even think you should post on these forums, us mere mortals aren't even worthy of talking to you lol

Where in there does it say no weather? Reading comprehension ftw.. It was day + double weather........ brilliance in here today

I'm having serious screenshot angst; I can't find any of the old pics; I can't believe you guys think such numbers are so unrealistic.. we don't even screenshot or wow @ MBs around the 2k range as it happens, with a little luck from the weather man, but jesus christ I'll be sure to next time.

[Xrave]

People use Pld to tank FF/NH?

[Tyche]

we do. Not like we have to...we just do.

[NynJa]

As for you not buying the bullshit, lol.. it's not often, but another Fafnir in even decent conditions (weather+windy control is fine) can crush 1900 so badly, and no, with Thundaga III. I just did 2204 Thunder IV after the first maintenance of the two without sorcerer's ring and without republic circlet.. Jesus you're sad.

2204 T4 with no weather and no latent ring...woooooooooooow....

I don't even think you should post on these forums, us mere mortals aren't even worthy of talking to you lol

and after he macroed his umbra, terra and jelly ring and tanked faf the rest of the fight...

[Wizerd]

People use Pld to tank FF/NH?

Aegis PLDs are quite hot on Fafnir/Nidhogg last I checked. ;o

[chiz]

I don't understand why people still use BLMs on Fafnir/Nidhogg when they could just zerg it with 3-4 MNK/NINs and a couple NIN, with several healers/summoners to keep them alive through wings while they rip through the mob incredibly fast. But hey, safety over fun right?

Hehe, you can ofc, although BLMs provide the important ability to sleep Fafhogg should wing span reach ludicrous levels. Could just use RDM/BLMs as well, but BLMs are relatively maintenance free through the course of the fight, til they eat dirt anyways.

You also have to keep that stable of BLMs interested somehow. Start zerging everything with melee and you might find your BLMs joining that LS that zergs everything with BLMs.

[Wizerd]

I don't understand why people still use BLMs on Fafnir/Nidhogg when they could just zerg it with 3-4 MNK/NINs and a couple NIN, with several healers/summoners to keep them alive through wings while they rip through the mob incredibly fast. But hey, safety over fun right?

Hehe, you can ofc, although BLMs provide the important ability to sleep Fafhogg should wing span reach ludicrous levels. Could just use RDM/BLMs as well, but BLMs are relatively maintenance free through the course of the fight, til they eat dirt anyways.

You also have to keep that stable of BLMs interested somehow. Start zerging everything with melee and you might find your BLMs joining that LS that zergs everything with BLMs.

Well I'm a natural melee so I don't understand the concept of keeping BLMs happy except in Dynamis when those statues come-a-crawlin'.

Also, if meleeing it to death I'd expect to have proper curing support even if wings got spammed a little more than hoped for. No need to sleep it. (Again, BLMs instead of melee just provide safety, which is less fun!)

[Raineer]

As for you not buying the bullshit, lol.. it's not often, but another Fafnir in even decent conditions (weather+windy control is fine) can crush 1900 so badly, and no, with Thundaga III. I just did 2204 Thunder IV after the first maintenance of the two without sorcerer's ring and without republic circlet.. Jesus you're sad.

2204 T4 with no weather and no latent ring...woooooooooooow....

I don't even think you should post on these forums, us mere mortals aren't even worthy of talking to you lol

and after he macroed his umbra, terra and jelly ring and tanked faf the rest of the fight...

Don't forget defending ring!

[Roranora]

I only have Terra on me, actually. I have to carry all that situational BS gear for weather, Windy-control, and auto-yellow HP for sorcerer's ring, rite!? And no, I don't tank him better than PLD and get hit hard as fuck. Because you guys don't believe the easily believable for some reason, no need to incorportate other bullshit with me. Though you will still, inevitably, because Nynja.

And Raineer still not even acknowledging in his quote it doesn't say I didn't use day and weather bonuses, wooo.

[NynJa]

very easy to crop a screenshot and say "I did x dmg with these variables that you'll have to take my word for".


http://hello.nynja.ca/rock53.jpg
I did that with Defender, no food, no bard, forgot weapons too...NO BULLSHIT !

[Tyche]

You said you'd never seen a 2000+ damage T4. I showed you one. I can't make you believe it, but it happened. I have nothing to prove, it wasn't me...i don't have some kind of vendetta against you to prove you wrong, i was just shpwing you it was possible >.>

[Roranora]

The main thing, Nynja is someone who apparently is around this much end-game either struggles with simple mathematics or just.. doesn't know how to push BLM damage. 2k~ isn't that special.. certainly not special enough that I'd keep an archive of the screenshots every time it's happened and certainly not special enough I think I'd need to have a picture to tell this crowd of people here, maybe KI, where I had to show and explain a 2393 MB there, but not here (that picture is gone and I never put in my photobucket.. so flame on, doubting).. but nonetheless, I know better now.

[NynJa]

I don't even think you should post on these forums, us mere mortals aren't even worthy of talking to you lol

[Roranora]

More like "narrow-minded people who are afraid to learn something from someone else" in place of mere mortals.. '-'

[Raineer]

More like "narrow-minded people who are afraid to learn something from someone else" in place of mere mortals.. '-'

No you've just proven to be the typical BG poster...

No one resists, no one dies, every fafnir is 8 minutes, every MB is 1900+ regardless of weather, tanks are perfect, no one pulls hate, every HNM pops at exactly 7:30PM so your entire LS is on.

No reason to ever learn effeciency for a 4am nidhogg with 9 people because those don't happen.

[Roranora]

Where did I say Fafnir was 8 minutes, Raineer? Our best is probably pretty subpar to bests others have done around here.. I'd say just under 20min.. rarely fighting with an all-out ideal alliance. And you brought up weather, inaccurately.. I never said it wasn't used to do such damage.. however, our tanks are pretty perfect; you did hit the nail on the head with that one. I can honestly say I doubt 90% of PLDs and NINs can stand up to our best. Our BLMs, myself included, are far less stand-out-ish. Even still, MBs are only resisted with wings up on Nidhogg really.. I worry if you have trouble nuking Fafnir, especially during MB. Resists happen of course when scattering nukes on occasion, but then again, those aren't the 1900+ nukes we're talking about now are they. And again, I clearly stated, even with your exact arbitrary number we play well when needed on 8 or 9 man kills when needed and have fun when can.. I gotta say everything twice or more for you guys. If the typical BG poster is often the quiet one compared to you and Nynja who gets immediately hurled into a debate because an MB number was mentioned that Nynja himself hasn't done yet, then I guess that's me.