Anyone still care about AV?

[Vobent]

I know it used Meikyo Sushi/Manafont atleast twice. I can't really say because I had my filters on, so my friend was teling me over vent.

[Zalius]

I know it used Meikyo Sushi/Manafont atleast twice. I can't really say because I had my filters on, so my friend was teling me over vent.

Can you list what jobs were in the alliance when the 2hrs were spiking off? It may have something to do with that, but i don't expect anything.

[Stanislav]

i think that the fact that it stops 2hring isnt a bug.. its something peopl eare doing.. just no one can figure out what it is

[Vobent]

I know it used Meikyo Sushi/Manafont atleast twice. I can't really say because I had my filters on, so my friend was teling me over vent.

Can you list what jobs were in the alliance when the 2hrs were spiking off? It may have something to do with that, but i don't expect anything.

Not in MLN, so I was outside curing. I can't say. But the times that it was 2-hring it was..Level 7 BST(who is now 3) 1 PLD, and..uh...one other thing, I don't think I ever saw its JA's >,>...And Kalyna, the RNG

[Zalius]

I know it used Meikyo Sushi/Manafont atleast twice. I can't really say because I had my filters on, so my friend was teling me over vent.

Can you list what jobs were in the alliance when the 2hrs were spiking off? It may have something to do with that, but i don't expect anything.

Not in MLN, so I was outside curing. I can't say. But the times that it was 2-hring it was..Level 7 BST(who is now 3) 1 PLD, and..uh...one other thing, I don't think I ever saw its JA's >,>...And Kalyna, the RNG

Ah well. I really don't believe in killing other jailers to shut down 2hrs, but SE does know about the AV situation. They nerfed the wall because thats not how they wanted it killed. They need to redo the vana'diel tribune and put the story behind jailers/AV and hinthint at what the strat is =/

[Don Katsu]

Has anyone tried using their own 2hr to see if it doesn't have it's own afterwards? He said a level 1 PLD was pulling it and he didn't see it use any JAs a level 1 PLD doesn't have JA other than 2hr. Oh nvm it was using Meikyo Sushi/Manafont.. heh good luck.

[AriaEminence]

Has anyone tried using their own 2hr to see if it doesn't have it's own afterwards? He said a level 1 PLD was pulling it and he didn't see it use any JAs a level 1 PLD doesn't have JA other than 2hr. Oh nvm it was using Meikyo Sushi/Manafont.. heh good luck.

I was thinking that, but I'm sure somewhere in the span of when AV was released til now someone had to have tried people all firing off every 2hr in the alliance to see if it would lock. Also doesn't really sound likely to me.

[Krandor]

Has anyone tried using their own 2hr to see if it doesn't have it's own afterwards? He said a level 1 PLD was pulling it and he didn't see it use any JAs a level 1 PLD doesn't have JA other than 2hr. Oh nvm it was using Meikyo Sushi/Manafont.. heh good luck.

I was thinking that, but I'm sure somewhere in the span of when AV was released til now someone had to have tried people all firing off every 2hr in the alliance to see if it would lock. Also doesn't really sound likely to me.

The system would be screwed up to due to the fact that the DRG 2hour has changed since the implementation of AV.

[FFXIFlux]

i think that the fact that it stops 2hring isnt a bug.. its something peopl eare doing.. just no one can figure out what it is

Hard to figure it out when we can't even get the stupid thing to spawn for us... Sacrificing chickens hasn't worked, it's time we move up, or in this case down, to something else, like SE employees.

[Don Katsu]

Try throwing a level 72 wind at it!
Mistmelt! CCB Polymer! a Virtue Stone! Yellow Liquid?!

Gonna take a while to figure this one out =\

[draxyl]

I believe using a Siredon Grill on AV stops his 2hrs....

[Lordwafik]

i think that the fact that it stops 2hring isnt a bug.. its something peopl eare doing.. just no one can figure out what it is

Hard to figure it out when we can't even get the stupid thing to spawn for us... Sacrificing chickens hasn't worked, it's time we move up, or in this case down, to something else, like SE employees.

How about yourself ? I'm sure AV will be over the moon and paint rainbows all around Sea's skyscape, shitting out Ninurta's sashes and giving little children sins as easter eggs, if you sacrifice yourself.

[½pint]

i think that the fact that it stops 2hring isnt a bug.. its something peopl eare doing.. just no one can figure out what it is

Hard to figure it out when we can't even get the stupid thing to spawn for us... Sacrificing chickens hasn't worked, it's time we move up, or in this case down, to something else, like SE employees.

How about yourself ? I'm sure AV will be over the moon and paint rainbows all around Sea's skyscape, shitting out Ninurta's sashes and giving little children sins as easter eggs, if you sacrifice yourself.

Haha nice one, Flux is such a dick lol.

[MisterBob]

i think that the fact that it stops 2hring isnt a bug.. its something peopl eare doing.. just no one can figure out what it is

Hard to figure it out when we can't even get the stupid thing to spawn for us... Sacrificing chickens hasn't worked, it's time we move up, or in this case down, to something else, like SE employees.

How about yourself ? I'm sure AV will be over the moon and paint rainbows all around Sea's skyscape, shitting out Ninurta's sashes and giving little children sins as easter eggs, if you sacrifice yourself.

Haha nice one, Flux is such a dick lol.

If I was SE, I'd definitely reward the playerbase if they got flux to sacrifice himself.

[Sixtail]

i think that the fact that it stops 2hring isnt a bug.. its something peopl eare doing.. just no one can figure out what it is

Hard to figure it out when we can't even get the stupid thing to spawn for us... Sacrificing chickens hasn't worked, it's time we move up, or in this case down, to something else, like SE employees.

How about yourself ? I'm sure AV will be over the moon and paint rainbows all around Sea's skyscape, shitting out Ninurta's sashes and giving little children sins as easter eggs, if you sacrifice yourself.

For such gold, you win a fully upgraded relic staff to make your moogle curse at you because he has to dust the damn thing as you'll never use it on blm.

[Kalyna]

before it stopped doing this.. did it use any 2hrs more then once? maybe SE changed it to only be able to use each once every 2hrs?

To be honest, I'm not sure. I'm positive it used some 2hrs more than once, but I don't remember if they had a span of over 2 real hours.

Can you list what jobs were in the alliance when the 2hrs were spiking off? It may have something to do with that, but i don't expect anything.

Well, after the NMs were cleared, we tried fighting it with an alliance and wiped once. I'm not sure which 2hrs were going off, but it caused enough havoc to wipe us. The second time the alliance started fighting, it became tame. I'm actually not even sure if it only became tame after the 95% mark or if it did before that...the 95% number was mentioned by another LS member on our forums.

The alliance, when we fought the second time, consisted of Plds, Whms, Blms, Brds, and a Rdm. I'm pretty sure no other jobs were in there. The first time we fought it (when we wiped), we also threw in Nins when the Plds went down. But I don't think the fact that we put some Nins in before our wipe had anything whatsoever to do with AV being tame in the second fight.



It's still very hard to tell what exactly caused AV to become tame. I think my current best guess is that AV can only use one type of 2hr every real 2 hours. If this is indeed what is going on, I'm still not sure whether it automatically has real 2 hour reloads, or if killing the other NMs makes his 2hrs have a real 2 hour reload.

It's somewhat reasonable to think that during our first wipe, AV unleashed all his 2hrs on us, then on our second run when we won, he became tame because he lost his 2hrs.

But that still does not explain why he stopped casting his usual spells.

Good luck, Stanislav. Let us know what you guys find out if AV pops.

[Cautery]

my current best guess is that AV can only use one type of 2hr every real 2 hours. If this is indeed what is going on, I'm still not sure whether it automatically has real 2 hour reloads, or if killing the other NMs makes his 2hrs have a real 2 hour reload.

Probably is like you are saying and the thing that reload his 2hr is when he became yellow, I mean, unclaimed and w/o hate like when HNM reset their ssj mode. When LB tried on the wall the first time all went good till 54% when it became unstable and turned yellow and then he started again 2HRing. Apathy had 2 ppl who were continuing Dia it no and it never became unclamed.
For sure I'm wrong, but wanted to say something cause AV capture my interest still.

[MisterBob]

Maybe I missed it in the thread, but:

Does AV call Wynavs more than once, or is it still like the old-school DRG 2hr?

[Kuropiko]

It calls its Wynavs over and over if you kill them, up to 3 i think ? Not sure of the number.

Well... Until you lock its 2hrs somehow.

[BRP]

So did the whole other NMs theory prove false, or at least uncertain? I'm happy some JPs would test it, anyway.