Anyone still care about AV?

[Kaeko]

Odin popped AV this morning and had a 4 LS teamup (if you're on Odin it's 7S who popped with PP TK and Jokers helping; LB as well on the side). AV was held for about 3-4 hours while we split into groups and killed all the NMs to "seal" the 2 hours. We've currently killed DRK, RNG, BRD, DRG, NIN, BST, BLM, MNK, WHM, RDM, SAM.

As far as I can tell, the idea that killing each NM seals that 2hr permanently is false. Temperance was killed and AV used SAM 2hr about 15 minutes later. It's also used Soul Voice, Eagle Eye Shot, etc. after the NM has been killed on multiple occassions.

The 4 LSs have access to 2 Relic Shields and 2 Relic Horns, but it's prodominantly Japanese members and everyone is really tired. The fact that the NM trick seems to have failed probably makes it even more tiring. Not really sure is SevenSense (the LS that popped it) will just call it quits or hold it over at this point.

[Koyangi]

Odin popped AV this morning and had a 4 LS teamup (if you're on Odin it's 7S who popped with PP TK and Jokers helping; LB as well on the side). AV was held for about 3-4 hours while we split into groups and killed all the NMs to "seal" the 2 hours. We've currently killed DRK, RNG, BRD, DRG, NIN, BST, BLM, MNK, WHM, RDM, SAM.

As far as I can tell, the idea that killing each NM seals that 2hr permanently is false. Temperance was killed and AV used SAM 2hr about 15 minutes later. It's also used Soul Voice, Eagle Eye Shot, etc. after the NM has been killed on multiple occassions.

The 4 LSs have access to 2 Relic Shields and 2 Relic Horns, but it's prodominantly Japanese members and everyone is really tired. The fact that the NM trick seems to have failed probably makes it even more tiring. Not really sure is SevenSense (the LS that popped it) will just call it quits or hold it over at this point.

The answer is so simple, its been there the whole time, in the same zone.

[Suiram]

We've currently killed DRK, RNG, BRD, DRG, NIN, BST, BLM, MNK, WHM, RDM, SAM.

Did you at least get some virtues?lol BRP WHERE ARE YOU NOW?

[Celeras]

Odin popped AV this morning and had a 4 LS teamup (if you're on Odin it's 7S who popped with PP TK and Jokers helping; LB as well on the side). AV was held for about 3-4 hours while we split into groups and killed all the NMs to "seal" the 2 hours. We've currently killed DRK, RNG, BRD, DRG, NIN, BST, BLM, MNK, WHM, RDM, SAM.

As far as I can tell, the idea that killing each NM seals that 2hr permanently is false. Temperance was killed and AV used SAM 2hr about 15 minutes later. It's also used Soul Voice, Eagle Eye Shot, etc. after the NM has been killed on multiple occassions.

The 4 LSs have access to 2 Relic Shields and 2 Relic Horns, but it's prodominantly Japanese members and everyone is really tired. The fact that the NM trick seems to have failed probably makes it even more tiring. Not really sure is SevenSense (the LS that popped it) will just call it quits or hold it over at this point.

The answer is so simple, its been there the whole time, in the same zone.

Yeah! I mean.. what?

[Toth]

AV popped today on Fairy by LP but we were too psyched at the two earring drops from JoL to adequately fight it. Sorry

[Bubi]

First of all... Hello every1 (my first post here lol)

the problem about our AV was really easy ^^

After we killed our first JoL (first pop also, second time it has been popp'd on the whole server) both PLD who were tanking (me and truezero) were /WAR for being safe about JoL and we had like 36ppl in area.

We also had no idea about the strategy to use on AV and tbh we didn't even talk about it cuz we were just focusing on our first JoL.

So no strategy + no /NIN for PLDs + an Aeroga4 and a couple Banishga 3 of Wyverns as soon as it popped made our life veeery short.

Anyway thanks for the infos i've read in this thread i hope they will be usefull the time we'll organize to kill AV if we'll ever try ^^

p.s. sry for English (my teacher always reccomended to say it after any talk/letter in engligh i do)

[Cautery]

Sorry if I ask again but there is a max Wynavs AV can call? Every "Call Wyvern" he calls x3 Wynavs but how many times he could use it or "he used to do it"?

[Dezzimal]

We dont have a point system but we do have a priority list based on thigns like attendance, events ran, etc etc etc. I'd like to think a lot of it's unbiased but I guess the glaring contradiction to that is I got both our first Ebody and our first ridll 2 days off of eachother >_> w/e I put it to good use.

I agree this system tends to work well for FFXI, however there are so many factors that can go in to determining who gets what that it can look like the leader is playing favorites sometimes. This also tends to work better with smaller but very active shells rather than larger ones, because people can see what is going on with the shell a lot easier.

/back to AV

[Suiram]

Sorry if I ask again but there is a max Wynavs AV can call? Every "Call Wyvern" he calls x3 Wynavs but how many times he could use it or "he used to do it"?

The max he will have out at any given time in his first non-bracelets form is 3. He can use Call Wyvern seemingly at his choosing whenever one or more of them are dead until you lock his 2Hs.


The max he can have out in second form (braclets) is six. He will always do Call Wyvern > Familiar > Astral Flow in quick succession in this form. However, they have either removed this stage of the fight, or else the LS whose AV attempt was the origional subject of this thread somehow locked that out as well.

[Kalyna]

As far as I can tell, the idea that killing each NM seals that 2hr permanently is false. Temperance was killed and AV used SAM 2hr about 15 minutes later. It's also used Soul Voice, Eagle Eye Shot, etc. after the NM has been killed on multiple occassions.

Did it use a particular 2hr more than once after the NMs were killed? Because after we killed the NMs, AV still used some 2hrs, but I don't recall him using one type of 2hr more than once. After he unleashed various 2hrs, he went tame.

And if he did use the same 2hr more than once after the NMs were killed, were they more than 2 real hours apart?

[Kaeko]

As far as I can tell, the idea that killing each NM seals that 2hr permanently is false. Temperance was killed and AV used SAM 2hr about 15 minutes later. It's also used Soul Voice, Eagle Eye Shot, etc. after the NM has been killed on multiple occassions.

Did it use a particular 2hr more than once after the NMs were killed? Because after we killed the NMs, AV still used some 2hrs, but I don't recall him using one type of 2hr more than once. After he unleashed various 2hrs, he went tame.

And if he did use the same 2hr more than once after the NMs were killed, were they more than 2 real hours apart?

I never saw manafont, chainspell, or benediction. When pets were killed, they were resummoned pretty much within the next 3-4 minutes. That could just be luck, however. The rate of 2hr usage seemed pretty much the same as usual, although the only prior encounter with AV for me was watching LB fight it during the 30 hour hold where they came up with the WoJ strat. The frequency of a particular 2hr being used I can't really say though.

I was pretty disappointed in the actual AV attempt - only lasted like 2-3 hours including preparation time. When the LS that initally popped it was getting tired/frustrated, they decided to let it depop rather than possibly asking LB (the only LS that had any prior AV experience) for help or let them continue testing; but I guess that's LS drama for you. The tanking scheme was 2 PLD/NIN at a time, 1 with aegis. I can't really comment on the non-aegis users' equip, but they didn't fair too well compared to the aegis user.

[Raineer]

As far as I can tell, the idea that killing each NM seals that 2hr permanently is false. Temperance was killed and AV used SAM 2hr about 15 minutes later. It's also used Soul Voice, Eagle Eye Shot, etc. after the NM has been killed on multiple occassions.

Did it use a particular 2hr more than once after the NMs were killed? Because after we killed the NMs, AV still used some 2hrs, but I don't recall him using one type of 2hr more than once. After he unleashed various 2hrs, he went tame.

And if he did use the same 2hr more than once after the NMs were killed, were they more than 2 real hours apart?

This is what I asked multiple times and never saw a response. So you killed the NM's and "it still used 2hours"... did it just use them once more like a normal NM would? It's not unreasonable to expect Absolute Virtue to have every 2hr in the game and expect it to use every single one once, the key is to figure out how to stop them from repeating.

[Cautery]

AV is held on Ragnarok from 15+hrs. Now a GM popped up and said to the LS who is holding that he will jail them if they dont damage AV.

GM = should all die.

[BRP]

Tell him who are they holding it against? Is there a line to pop AV?

[Lylie]

Tell him who are they holding it against? Is there a line to pop AV?

Probably. I heard Sea was over crowded nowadays, Several linkshells waiting to pop an HNM that MIGHT pop...

Oh wait...

[aurik]

Tell him who are they holding it against? Is there a line to pop AV?

GMs don't listen to what you say in your defense. I think it's a rule. I've never heard of anyone who, when they offered a valid explanation, got off the hook.

Someone with sand somewhere uncomfortable probably reported them just for the sake of being vindictive.

[Artica]

Well, I think we got it to stop 2 houring but someone got suspended in the process lol

Aeroga IV is still raping all the tanks though. Need more people, too late at night we have like 22 left and got it to 95% couple times before dying lol.

[Bluetonberry]

Be funny if stopping his 2hrs was something as simply stupid like just getting him to use all 15 at least once then being unable to 2hr anymore

[FireCrystal]

Absolute Virtue has been up on Ragnarok for 40+ hrs now.. These people are crazy lol

[Celeras]

Im telling you, you have to survive/get lucky until its under 95%. After that, its regen goes bye-bye and it cant 2 hour. I believe that the bracelets we're SEs insurance policy that this wasnt killed before they were ready, and thats the only reason its 2 hour'ed under 95% when the wall was being used.

Just my thoughts, of course. Can anybody think of a time where AV 2 hour'ed under 95%, without bracelets on? /attempts to spark conversation