Anyone still care about AV?

[octopus]

I read it on some LJ where someone was theorizing this:

Maybe AV has a reverse-rage timer opposite to the ground kings? Maybe it's just simply you have to engage in his hate list somehow for an hour or two and he gets nerfed as opposed to Fafhogg getting into rage mode after an hour.

[Cautery]

This thing is crazy... fucking crazy. I'm trying to see how as PLD/nin can holding it. Starting with haste, x2 march and Ni on, he eats my first 3 shadows, then I use Ni and Ichi. Everytime he see me w/o shadows with less than 10sec to the next Ni he use AeroV and kills me... what a crazy mob! Hits goes from 400 to 490, like a 2hr Nidhogg so with 3/4 tanks and a good support would not be that hard... lets see when that LS will be online to try full attack again it. They still holding.

[Illverin]

Im telling you, you have to survive/get lucky until its under 95%. After that, its regen goes bye-bye and it cant 2 hour. I believe that the bracelets we're SEs insurance policy that this wasnt killed before they were ready, and thats the only reason its 2 hour'ed under 95% when the wall was being used.

Just my thoughts, of course. Can anybody think of a time where AV 2 hour'ed under 95%, without bracelets on? /attempts to spark conversation

Wasn't there an LS that got AV to 40% and then it did Benediction back up to full and they basically said fuck it? I think this was before the first AV kill using the wall

[Machazareel]

He also popped his bracelets that time, last I recall, which is mentioned in Celeras' post.

[Cautery]

The first time with LB it lost his 2hrs being held lot of time on the wall.

On Caithsith seems he lost his 2hrs cause good ally setup are been able to hold it below the 95% and for more time after it w/o dieing.

This time on Ragnarok seems he lost his 2hrs while he was held with the Goblin Footprint/CopCS trick. Now, 20hrs+ later, with LV1 chars holding it, AV still didn't got back his 2hr and when we try "fight" or hold, even if he go back to his pop point, he has no 2hrs since that CopCS trick. Wtf?

Seems the secret is if you are able to hold it for a certain amount of time he lose his IT regen and his 2hrs and become fightable...

Moral of the story: AV is broke!

[MisterBob]

Out of curiosity, has anyone seen the Chainspell/Manafont combo post-patch, or Bene for that matter? Our AV kept skipping those 2hrs...

[Sefier]

yup when he was on ifrit couple days ago,i believe he used chainspell,im 100% sure he used manafont

[Kaali]

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/3685/bene1wm.jpg

Old pic but to answer the qusetion he can use that 2hr. Anyway slight update from Solstice.

AV has stopped using 2hrs. By the time we deactivated them we had few members online of the needed jobs. We did however get AV down to 95% straight tanking before mages were low on mp. His regen is noticablly less at this point similiar to JoL. We've been holding for about 40hrs now and will give it our best shot towards defeating AV in the next few hrs.

As far as how we deactivated the 2hrs we're not 100% as to how we did it. One of our members did get jailed in the process though.

[Jeryhn]

That was for using the Goblin Footprints right?

Did the GM just appear, or did someone call him on you?

[Stanislav]

Kinda sad its been more then a year and still no one knows how to kill it

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

Kinda sad its been more then a year and still no one knows how to kill it

I think its kinda cool actually. Theres a monster that's not completely unkillable, drops some of the best items in the game, and still hasn't been figured out. Thats something I've never heard of before.

[Flight_93]

Goblin Footprint ftw..

[Charla]

Kinda sad its been more then a year and still no one knows how to kill it

I think its kinda cool actually. Theres a monster that's not completely unkillable, drops some of the best items in the game, and still hasn't been figured out. Thats something I've never heard of before.

It happened in EQ, but I'm still not sure if the sleeper was ever intended to be killable or not. I'm not even sure if the developers knew if they intended it to be killable or not.

[Sixtail]

Kinda sad its been more then a year and still no one knows how to kill it

I think its kinda cool actually. Theres a monster that's not completely unkillable, drops some of the best items in the game, and still hasn't been figured out. Thats something I've never heard of before.

It happened in EQ, but I'm still not sure if the sleeper was ever intended to be killable or not. I'm not even sure if the developers knew if they intended it to be killable or not.

At the time, she -was- unkillable, but as add-ons were added and characters grew stronger, she soon was no longer 'unkillable' and just became 'insanely hard."

Sleeper didn't drop shit ether, I think.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

Kinda sad its been more then a year and still no one knows how to kill it

I think its kinda cool actually. Theres a monster that's not completely unkillable, drops some of the best items in the game, and still hasn't been figured out. Thats something I've never heard of before.

It happened in EQ, but I'm still not sure if the sleeper was ever intended to be killable or not. I'm not even sure if the developers knew if they intended it to be killable or not.

At the time, she -was- unkillerable, but as add-ons were added and characters grew stronger, she soon became 'unkillable' and just 'insanely hard."

Sleeper didn't drop shit ether, I think.

Yeah thats why I added the completely unkillable clause. The people who killed it first were exploiting a bug not too much unlike the wall glitch in effect. AV I think has always been killable...just very hard.
Somewhat similar but completely different. This one is meant to be killed.

[Charla]

I seem to remember Rallos Zek was "unkillable" at PoP release, because they didn't want to admit they only had 1/3 of the expansion finished. But someone accidentally found a bug that made his own adds aggro him and won anyway.

Lets just say it never happened in a game with halfway decent design.

[Syncere]

Kinda sad its been more then a year and still no one knows how to kill it

I think its kinda cool actually. Theres a monster that's not completely unkillable, drops some of the best items in the game, and still hasn't been figured out. Thats something I've never heard of before.

It happened in EQ, but I'm still not sure if the sleeper was ever intended to be killable or not. I'm not even sure if the developers knew if they intended it to be killable or not.

At the time, she -was- unkillerable, but as add-ons were added and characters grew stronger, she soon became 'unkillable' and just 'insanely hard."

Sleeper didn't drop shit ether, I think.

Yeah thats why I added the completely unkillable clause. The people who killed it first were exploiting a bug not too much unlike the wall glitch in effect. AV I think has always been killable...just very hard.
Somewhat similar but completely different. This one is meant to be killed.

How do you explain the first AV kill dropping nothing? Then the next few kills dropped a shitload of items. -.-

[Ichthyos]

How do you explain the first AV kill dropping nothing? Then the next few kills dropped a shitload of items. -.-

Maybe Apathy didn't have TH4 each party of the alliance.

[Siatdiat]

The sleeper didnt drop anything, but once you woke it up it stayed up. Alot of people would switch servers so they could farm rare drops off of his guards, because they didnt respawn after being killed.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

[quote=Syncere]

Kinda sad its been more then a year and still no one knows how to kill it

I think its kinda cool actually. Theres a monster that's not completely unkillable, drops some of the best items in the game, and still hasn't been figured out. Thats something I've never heard of before.

It happened in EQ, but I'm still not sure if the sleeper was ever intended to be killable or not. I'm not even sure if the developers knew if they intended it to be killable or not.

At the time, she -was- unkillerable, but as add-ons were added and characters grew stronger, she soon became 'unkillable' and just 'insanely hard."

Sleeper didn't drop shit ether, I think.

Yeah thats why I added the completely unkillable clause. The people who killed it first were exploiting a bug not too much unlike the wall glitch in effect. AV I think has always been killable...just very hard.
Somewhat similar but completely different. This one is meant to be killed.

How do you explain the first AV kill dropping nothing? Then the next few kills dropped a shitload of items. -.-[/quote:7c1c2]

Well... I have no fucking clue. I'm sure the intent was he drops those items in the first place though. SE's... well lets say 'unrefined' drop system is probably what caused that.