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  1. #581
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siatdiat
    The sleeper didnt drop anything, but once you woke it up it stayed up. Alot of people would switch servers so they could farm rare drops off of his guards, because they didnt respawn after being killed.
    The way I heard the story was primal velium weapons dropped off a few other things in the zone, but they were most common from the guards that triggered sleeper. It didn't really stay popped forever, but the trigger mobs would never come back on that server. By PoP release primal velium was only useful for the avatar proc anyway.

  2. #582
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    [quote=Jooeetheplatypus][quote=Syncere]
    Quote Originally Posted by Jooeetheplatypus
    Quote Originally Posted by Sixtail
    Quote Originally Posted by Charla
    Quote Originally Posted by "Jooeetheplatypus":4bbac
    Quote Originally Posted by "Stanislav":4bbac
    Kinda sad its been more then a year and still no one knows how to kill it
    I think its kinda cool actually. Theres a monster that's not completely unkillable, drops some of the best items in the game, and still hasn't been figured out. Thats something I've never heard of before.
    It happened in EQ, but I'm still not sure if the sleeper was ever intended to be killable or not. I'm not even sure if the developers knew if they intended it to be killable or not.
    At the time, she -was- unkillerable, but as add-ons were added and characters grew stronger, she soon became 'unkillable' and just 'insanely hard."

    Sleeper didn't drop shit ether, I think.
    Yeah thats why I added the completely unkillable clause. The people who killed it first were exploiting a bug not too much unlike the wall glitch in effect. AV I think has always been killable...just very hard.
    Somewhat similar but completely different. This one is meant to be killed.
    How do you explain the first AV kill dropping nothing? Then the next few kills dropped a shitload of items. -.-[/quote:4bbac]

    Well... I have no fucking clue. I'm sure the intent was he drops those items in the first place though. SE's... well lets say 'unrefined' drop system is probably what caused that.[/quote:4bbac]

    If I recall, the first ever AV kill was incredibly buggy. They had to keep spamming Dia to get AV's attention. He would never keep hate, and just keep trying to return to his spawn. Thus, there's a good chance when he died the game thought nobody had the claim, and thus he didn't drop anything. Very rarely this can happen even on normal mobs if they fall to DoT.

  3. #583
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syncere
    How do you explain the first AV kill dropping nothing? Then the next few kills dropped a shitload of items. -.-
    After that first AV kill, there was an update a few days later. In subsequent kills after that, he began dropping items.

    If I recall correctly, didn't this same exact thing happen with the first Jailer of Love kill?

  4. #584
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterBob
    If I recall, the first ever AV kill was incredibly buggy. They had to keep spamming Dia to get AV's attention. He would never keep hate, and just keep trying to return to his spawn. Thus, there's a good chance when he died the game thought nobody had the claim, and thus he didn't drop anything. Very rarely this can happen even on normal mobs if they fall to DoT.
    they still got exp. 60 limit points i think it was

  5. #585
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syncere

    How do you explain the first AV kill dropping nothing? Then the next few kills dropped a shitload of items. -.-
    One 3 letter word: sea


    It's possible a DoT killed it, but there was many occasion where I killed a mob with DoT unclaimed and got claim. I remember this boroka once giving us kote 30sec after we wiped.

  6. #586
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaali
    As far as how we deactivated the 2hrs we're not 100% as to how we did it. One of our members did get jailed in the process though.
    We might be on to something here...

  7. #587
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    Quote Originally Posted by rahskala
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaali
    As far as how we deactivated the 2hrs we're not 100% as to how we did it. One of our members did get jailed in the process though.
    We might be on to something here...
    Put IME JPN text in you bazaar message to trick AV into thinking you are JP?

  8. #588
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    wow

    Thx for gloating about killing AV and saying. "sure ill tell you guys how to kill AV once its dead." then it dies and you said im not completely sure what we did. Thats bullshit and thats grimey but whatever.

  9. #589
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    There have been a few reports of people getting jailed/suspended for "holding" AV. There are only two explanations for that.

    Possibility A) GMs are compleatly and utterly retarded and would be better off working at McDonalds.

    Possibility B) Maybe GMs have to turn off AVs two hour.. Everytime it gets claimed a message gets spammed to all the GMs that AV is up. Level 1 people claiming AV to keep him from depopping spams GMs and they ban you for "holding" to stop the spam.

    I'm betting on A.

  10. #590
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    wow

    Thx for gloating about killing AV and saying. "sure ill tell you guys how to kill AV once its dead." then it dies and you said im not completely sure what we did. Thats bullshit and thats grimey but whatever.

  11. #591
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    Re: wow

    Quote Originally Posted by thatsahuge
    Thx for gloating about killing AV and saying. "sure ill tell you guys how to kill AV once its dead." then it dies and you said im not completely sure what we did. Thats bullshit and thats grimey but whatever.
    you are an idiot. did you read any of this thread?

  12. #592
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    Possibility A) GMs are compleatly and utterly retarded and would be better off working at McDonalds.
    Nah, they fuck up my orders enough as it is. They need to be in politics or something. I'm pretty sure they can't fuck that up any worse than it already is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvrdragon
    Possibility A) GMs are compleatly and utterly retarded and would be better off working at McDonalds.
    Nah, they fuck up my orders enough as it is. They need to be in politics or something. I'm pretty sure they can't fuck that up any worse than it already is.
    JCBlue for prez!

    I can see it now..

    [President]Jcblue: Hello. President Jcblue here
    Saddam: Hello, have I done something wrong?
    [President]Jcblue: I brought you here because you have weapons of mass destruction.
    Sadam: I do?
    [President]Jcblue: I am issuing you a 72 hr suspension
    [President]Jcblue: It will begin at 12 am PST
    Sadam: can I please ask what weapons it ?
    [President]Jcblue: After which you will need to place a UN call to be removed from jail.
    [President]Jcblue: If you get caught for any violation after this your country will be up for ban review
    Sadam: can I please ask what weapons i am accused of having?
    [President]Jcblue: you were storing and building illegal weapons.
    Sadam: um can you please provide proof of this
    Sadam: because i have nothing of that sort in my country
    [President]Jcblue: we do not need to provide proof to you
    Sadam: can i please speak to the UN?
    [President]Jcblue: If you feel that you do not know that you do not know how to get rid of WMD you may contact tech support for more assistance. You can speak with the UN when you return from your suspension
    Sadam: why can't i talk to them now?
    Sadam: i feel i am being wrongly accused and should not reseave this suspension
    [President]Jcblue: Thats fine. You have a right to your own opinion but our logs show an overwhelming amount of WMD in the logs and for this we have to take action
    Sadam: ok, can I ask where these WMD are located?
    [President]Jcblue: so you can submit any feedback/comments through the UN viewer.
    [President]Jcblue: Service and Support, Support, Email Support within this hour

    Ok.. after typing it out.. it wasn't as funny as it sounded when I though about it.. whatever. Oh yeah.. some people might miss the reference... http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e397/Hogie48/BSGM.jpg .. its funny cause of the name of the person in the screenshot..

  14. #594
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jooeetheplatypus
    Quote Originally Posted by Sixtail
    Quote Originally Posted by Charla
    Quote Originally Posted by Jooeetheplatypus
    Quote Originally Posted by Stanislav
    Kinda sad its been more then a year and still no one knows how to kill it
    I think its kinda cool actually. Theres a monster that's not completely unkillable, drops some of the best items in the game, and still hasn't been figured out. Thats something I've never heard of before.
    It happened in EQ, but I'm still not sure if the sleeper was ever intended to be killable or not. I'm not even sure if the developers knew if they intended it to be killable or not.
    At the time, she -was- unkillerable, but as add-ons were added and characters grew stronger, she soon became 'unkillable' and just 'insanely hard."

    Sleeper didn't drop shit ether, I think.
    Yeah thats why I added the completely unkillable clause. The people who killed it first were exploiting a bug not too much unlike the wall glitch in effect. AV I think has always been killable...just very hard.
    Somewhat similar but completely different. This one is meant to be killed.[/quote

    No, they just zerged the living fuck out of him. It was nothing like the Conquest Z-expoit which netted a large majortiy of the guild in bannination.

  15. #595
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charla
    I seem to remember Rallos Zek was "unkillable" at PoP release, because they didn't want to admit they only had 1/3 of the expansion finished. But someone accidentally found a bug that made his own adds aggro him and won anyway.

    Lets just say it never happened in a game with halfway decent design.
    AL. TR or FoH(I honestly forget which of the three it was) were the first to kill him, a few weeks before my guild. I belive they got in a legit kill... then SE fixed him...

    The hard part the VZ/TZ, First RZ portions of the fight, not the pit when he was impossible if I remember correctly. SE removed a few pathing monsters to fix the enconter and make it more possible.

    I remember my guild (Hoss) on Druzzil Ro beating our heads against RZ for a good month or so befire he died.

  16. #596
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    Ok wtf, we managed to get AV down to 79% and he just meteored 5 times in a row WITHOUT using manafont or any other 2 hour.

    It's also casting Comet at will now D:

  17. #597
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    Pretty sure it was confirmed through .dats that meteor was only 1mp? Someone correct me if I'm wrong. D:

  18. #598
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    It is 1mp in the dat but I don't think anyone's reported AV to use it without using manafont first. I could be wrong.

    Didn't get a shot, but this is after it regenned a bit back up to 81% while meteor raping everyone without using a 2 hour. Had it up for around 54 hours at this point and it hadn't used a 2 hour for about 24 hours or so I think.

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v62/Zer0xChan/AV.png

  19. #599
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    [GM]Luminous: Hello, how may I help you today.
    Playerfightingav: Shinanigans!
    [GM]Luminous: Fuck you got me, 2 hours off.

  20. #600
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    54 hour T_T I hope you guys win and get full drop! Fyi we only used one JP Thf Th4 from Duckn LS. JP power? idk.

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