Things not to do at 1% on Tiamat.

[Smartdrv]

Not at 1% but I'm always fond of this from a blm in our LS.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y29.../FlailStun.jpg

[Map]

I did a Combo today in an exp PT at level 34 which did more damage than your gekko, map. Without sneak attack either, I'm just megapimp.

Edit: Checking the screenshot again, almost all my Combo's were higher than that.

We were fighting bats :3

I was fighting a dragon ;3

[Vinen]

I think its time to put Map back into his cage, hes hallucinating again.

[Devek]

How could anyone have e-penis envy over a tarutaru?

[epigram]

Spike flail is sorta lame, if you want a real post do this 3 hit combo for TKO.

CFH -> spike flail -> RMT your sash.

[Demosthenes11]

yikes you use kasha on Tiamat? That's more embarrassing than a me posting a ss of a weak gekko.

http://s61.photobucket.com/albums/h4...on/Records.jpg

There, there's some screen shots of good weapon skill damage, whoopie. I am a little disappointed that none of the many 1k+ gekkos i do flailed a dragon, but instead a measley 300 damage one did. Yeah it's too bad that 6% haste and 6 attack on my waste slot didn't make my gekko do a billion damage, but I fail to see your point?

Freudian slip?

ahahahahahahaha, winner

[Gentaro]

On all 3 screens a SAM caused flail.....wyrm > sam

[Ryko]

Yuki gekko and kasha are the same WS n terms of damage, even if he used SA (didnt check the screen) it sure as hell didn't connect, he already had hate from behind it or the side by the time the kasha went off.

[RKenshin]

Again, to reinforce what was said, Gekko = Kasha = Yuki in terms of maximum damage output. There is no difference, it's not the rumored Gekko > Kasha > Yuki.

One SAM starts a rumor that Gekko does the most, then all the other SAMs use Gekko whenever they can, and naturally in most cases they will hit their highest WS damage with Gekko (since they use it most often). And then everyone believes it's the best because they did 500 Tachi:Gekkos vs 15 Tachi:Kashas vs 2 Tachi:Yukikazes and Gekko had the highest damage.

They're the same mods. It's just people spam Gekko relentlessly in belief it's the highest damage or just because it looks/sounds appealing, while a small amount spam Kasha, and then no one ever spams Yuki.

Personally I use Kasha for most of the situations... I'd much rather land Paralyze on a mob that's most likely about to turn and beat the shit out of me instead of Silence, hell I'd even rather land Blind than Silence in most cases. Silence is either useless or doesn't land period on 90% of the HNMs.

[Ohemgee]

Again, to reinforce what was said, Gekko = Kasha = Yuki in terms of maximum damage output. There is no difference, it's not the rumored Gekko > Kasha > Yuki.

One SAM starts a rumor that Gekko does the most, then all the other SAMs use Gekko whenever they can, and naturally in most cases they will hit their highest WS damage with Gekko (since they use it most often). And then everyone believes it's the best because they did 500 Tachi:Gekkos vs 15 Tachi:Kashas vs 2 Tachi:Yukikazes and Gekko had the highest damage.

They're the same mods. It's just people spam Gekko relentlessly in belief it's the highest damage or just because it looks/sounds appealing, while a small amount spam Kasha, and then no one ever spams Yuki.

Personally I use Kasha for most of the situations... I'd much rather land Paralyze on a mob that's most likely about to turn and beat the shit out of me instead of Silence, hell I'd even rather land Blind than Silence in most cases. Silence is either useless or doesn't land period on 90% of the HNMs.

Fuck that, I use Gekko because I want to jump.

[Jeryhn]

Again, to reinforce what was said, Gekko = Kasha = Yuki in terms of maximum damage output. There is no difference, it's not the rumored Gekko > Kasha > Yuki.

One SAM starts a rumor that Gekko does the most, then all the other SAMs use Gekko whenever they can, and naturally in most cases they will hit their highest WS damage with Gekko (since they use it most often). And then everyone believes it's the best because they did 500 Tachi:Gekkos vs 15 Tachi:Kashas vs 2 Tachi:Yukikazes and Gekko had the highest damage.

They're the same mods. It's just people spam Gekko relentlessly in belief it's the highest damage or just because it looks/sounds appealing, while a small amount spam Kasha, and then no one ever spams Yuki.

Personally I use Kasha for most of the situations... I'd much rather land Paralyze on a mob that's most likely about to turn and beat the shit out of me instead of Silence, hell I'd even rather land Blind than Silence in most cases. Silence is either useless or doesn't land period on 90% of the HNMs.

Fuck that, I use Gekko because I want to jump.

Be a Dragoon.

[Ohemgee]

Again, to reinforce what was said, Gekko = Kasha = Yuki in terms of maximum damage output. There is no difference, it's not the rumored Gekko > Kasha > Yuki.

One SAM starts a rumor that Gekko does the most, then all the other SAMs use Gekko whenever they can, and naturally in most cases they will hit their highest WS damage with Gekko (since they use it most often). And then everyone believes it's the best because they did 500 Tachi:Gekkos vs 15 Tachi:Kashas vs 2 Tachi:Yukikazes and Gekko had the highest damage.

They're the same mods. It's just people spam Gekko relentlessly in belief it's the highest damage or just because it looks/sounds appealing, while a small amount spam Kasha, and then no one ever spams Yuki.

Personally I use Kasha for most of the situations... I'd much rather land Paralyze on a mob that's most likely about to turn and beat the shit out of me instead of Silence, hell I'd even rather land Blind than Silence in most cases. Silence is either useless or doesn't land period on 90% of the HNMs.

Fuck that, I use Gekko because I want to jump.

Be a Dragoon.

Touche

[Rocl]

Again, to reinforce what was said, Gekko = Kasha = Yuki in terms of maximum damage output. There is no difference, it's not the rumored Gekko > Kasha > Yuki.

One SAM starts a rumor that Gekko does the most, then all the other SAMs use Gekko whenever they can, and naturally in most cases they will hit their highest WS damage with Gekko (since they use it most often). And then everyone believes it's the best because they did 500 Tachi:Gekkos vs 15 Tachi:Kashas vs 2 Tachi:Yukikazes and Gekko had the highest damage.

They're the same mods. It's just people spam Gekko relentlessly in belief it's the highest damage or just because it looks/sounds appealing, while a small amount spam Kasha, and then no one ever spams Yuki.

Personally I use Kasha for most of the situations... I'd much rather land Paralyze on a mob that's most likely about to turn and beat the shit out of me instead of Silence, hell I'd even rather land Blind than Silence in most cases. Silence is either useless or doesn't land period on 90% of the HNMs.

Fuck that, I use Gekko because I want to jump.

Be a Dragoon.

Do you make your pancakes with Win too?

[Zoolander]

You guys can't be serious? Kasha = Yuki = Gekko? Please pass me whatever you are smoking. After WSing with all three thousands of times over the last two years, theres no way in hell you can tell me they are the same dmg in the same situations.

The myth is that Gekko is always stronger than kasha or yukikaze is just that, a myth...but saying they are all the same damage is rediculous. It jsut happens to be that in most situations, Gekko is usually the strongest and most consistent. Theres more to WS's than just looking at some formula some guy you don't know made.

[aurik]

Well, except that I've verified a good chunk of those formulas myself, and they're all reasonably correct. So...yea that's a decent reason to believe the mod is identical.

As I said before, about the only part of the equation I don't know for certain is reasonably correct is whether WSes modify your atk for purposes of calculation of PDIF. I think they don't. They could, though. It's hard to come up with a good test.

[Dezzimal]

You guys can't be serious? Kasha = Yuki = Gekko? Please pass me whatever you are smoking. After WSing with all three thousands of times over the last two years, theres no way in hell you can tell me they are the same dmg in the same situations.

The myth is that Gekko is always stronger than kasha or yukikaze is just that, a myth...but saying they are all the same damage is rediculous. It jsut happens to be that in most situations, Gekko is usually the strongest and most consistent. Theres more to WS's than just looking at some formula some guy you don't know made.

y hello thar 1 post.

[Vail]

Again, to reinforce what was said, Gekko = Kasha = Yuki in terms of maximum damage output. There is no difference, it's not the rumored Gekko > Kasha > Yuki.

One SAM starts a rumor that Gekko does the most, then all the other SAMs use Gekko whenever they can, and naturally in most cases they will hit their highest WS damage with Gekko (since they use it most often). And then everyone believes it's the best because they did 500 Tachi:Gekkos vs 15 Tachi:Kashas vs 2 Tachi:Yukikazes and Gekko had the highest damage.

They're the same mods. It's just people spam Gekko relentlessly in belief it's the highest damage or just because it looks/sounds appealing, while a small amount spam Kasha, and then no one ever spams Yuki.

Personally I use Kasha for most of the situations... I'd much rather land Paralyze on a mob that's most likely about to turn and beat the shit out of me instead of Silence, hell I'd even rather land Blind than Silence in most cases. Silence is either useless or doesn't land period on 90% of the HNMs.

That's the way it seems to me, unless a SAM in my LS is doing a SC where they need to do a WS other then Gekko: when soloing WS they will always gekko, nothing else. I'd think all 3 would be pretty much identical except the random deviation in damage that happens with all attacks

[Septimus]

You guys can't be serious? Kasha = Yuki = Gekko? Please pass me whatever you are smoking. After WSing with all three thousands of times over the last two years, theres no way in hell you can tell me they are the same dmg in the same situations.

The myth is that Gekko is always stronger than kasha or yukikaze is just that, a myth...but saying they are all the same damage is rediculous. It jsut happens to be that in most situations, Gekko is usually the strongest and most consistent. Theres more to WS's than just looking at some formula some guy you don't know made.

y hello thar 1 post.

y hello thar awesome sig.

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/851/pbfsig5io.jpg

So delightfully cruel.

[_Zoolander_]

y hello thar 1 post.

Y halo thar big bad e-thug

[Lockecole]

yikes you use kasha on Tiamat? That's more embarrassing than a me posting a ss of a weak gekko.

http://s61.photobucket.com/albums/h4...on/Records.jpg

There, there's some screen shots of good weapon skill damage, whoopie. I am a little disappointed that none of the many 1k+ gekkos i do flailed a dragon, but instead a measley 300 damage one did. Yeah it's too bad that 6% haste and 6 attack on my waste slot didn't make my gekko do a billion damage, but I fail to see your point?

Freudian slip?

ahahahahahahaha, winner

lol nice, I'm so glad someone else picked that up. H.I.L.A.R.I.O.U.S.