Parade Gorget: First Post, 'nuff said.

[Neosutra]

0/20 now. Now i know why my crafting blows nowadays. No Luck

[DeadLegend]

Sorry but I'm not trusting a test of HP% with a variable of just 80 hp difference from gear/food. Unless I misread, you said your test "proves" it activates at 85% including HP+ from gear. That is crazytalk mister, considering I had it active at 75%. Moonphase theory might be something but uh...85% theory is not 100% correct. lol

[divisortheory]

This has probably been answered, but there are about 30 new pages since 2 days ago lol. Is it 1 MP/tick, and does it stack with all other forms of refresh?

[DeadLegend]

1/tic, stacks with verm cloak, spell refresh, job trait refresh, juice refresh, sanction refresh, etc.

[SephYuyX]

This has probably been answered, but there are about 30 new pages since 2 days ago lol. Is it 1 MP/tick, and does it stack with all other forms of refresh?

I read it stacks with PLD auto refresh as well as sanction, so 3mp/tick.

[Merryck]

Yes, it is 1MP per tick, and I haven't tested it yet, but I'd say it probably stacks with Refresh and Ballad. I'm not sure about Auto-Refresh from PLD, though, considering this item was in the game before the update to PLD to give Auto-Refresh.

Edit: Damn, three posts at 8:37...on the ball tonight, folks.

[Krandor]

With a base of around 1480 something (I can't remember what 75 Galka PLD/WAR Base HP with 5 merits is), I piled up some HP gear and got to around 2050, and I had the latent still active at around 73% HP (my numbers on the raw HP are off, but I do remember the 73%).

I was doing this in town so I didn't have any mobs to hit me, but it's definetly based off Base HP and not HP from gear.

I guess this gorget can give PLDs a reason to pile up HP gear again

@ Divisortheory : Yes it stacks with all other forms of Refresh gear/spells, and it's 1 MP/tic

[divisortheory]

This has probably been answered, but there are about 30 new pages since 2 days ago lol. Is it 1 MP/tick, and does it stack with all other forms of refresh?

I read it stacks with PLD auto refresh as well as sanction, so 3mp/tick.

so theoretical max now is:

1 - Parade Gorget
1 - Auto-Refresh
1 - Verm Cloak
1 - Sanction
3 - Spell Refresh
7 - Relic Bard
5 - Evoker's Roll of 11 with SMN in party

Total: 19 MP / tick?

[Merryck]

Sorry but I'm not trusting a test of HP% with a variable of just 80 hp difference from gear/food. Unless I misread, you said your test "proves" it activates at 85% including HP+ from gear. That is crazytalk mister, considering I had it active at 75%. Moonphase theory might be something but uh...85% theory is not 100% correct. lol

Post numbers, including Base HP, HP from gear, and HP from food. Do the calculations, but even so, post them here so we can see the data for ourselves.

I didn't say that my answer was 100% absolute, but it's enough to make me happy.

[Krandor]

Don't forget Evoker's roll.

[SephYuyX]

Throw in a RDM just for shits too.

[Helpoemer]

This has probably been answered, but there are about 30 new pages since 2 days ago lol. Is it 1 MP/tick, and does it stack with all other forms of refresh?

I read it stacks with PLD auto refresh as well as sanction, so 3mp/tick.

so theoretical max now is:

1 - Parade Gorget
1 - Auto-Refresh
1 - Verm Cloak
1 - Sanction
3 - Spell Refresh
7 - Relic Bard
5 - 11 Evoker's Roll with SMN in PT

Total: 19 MP / tick?

i think that's right now

edit: perfected

[divisortheory]

Actually I guess you can squeeze another 2 points / tic out of it if you use an Amrita instead of Spell Refresh, but that doesn't really count. Otherwise, yea I think that's it. 19/tic is fairly ridiculous, lol.

[solsovly]

Add in Soul Voice for a little more

[Faris]

2/2 on the Gorget.

piss easy NM, thank god not many ppl in Hades know about it yet.

i just say 2 NAs camping, and lots of JPs.

[NynJa]

Market for Elshimo Newts allready died

I've got like 20 rotting on mules now lol

[DeadLegend]

Mithra PLD/WAR Base HP+3 merits: 1266, using various poison pots for test, and a turtle soup. My hp is gay because I sold a few things recently <.<

1266/1711 Refresh O, 100% base, 73% total
1266/1882 Refresh O, 100% base 67% total, used food.
1241/1678 Refresh O, 98% base, 73% total, food, less hp gear.(edited in)

This is the exact moment Refresh stopped.
1249/1882 Refresh X, around 98% of base, 66% of total

Full Moon 98% darksday.

edit:
bolded for emphasis lol

[SephYuyX]

lol @ moon% being a factor?

[DeadLegend]

nah it kicked in again once I took off some hp gear and 1241 represented a higher % of total.

edit:
day changed to fireday 95% full moon with the same results.

edit:
another test, with regular gear+turtle soup on the 95% full moon fireday
Refresh wore off at:
1211/1678, about 95-96% of base, 72% total.

and once again...bolded for emphasis lol

If someone is any good at math they can probably make something of this but all I can do is supply the numbers, I am awful at all kinds of math. I'll cancel my food effect and try to duplicate this with more non-food tests or fixed hp+ food tests.

[divisortheory]

It would be easiest to isolate the variables.

Test 1 - No HP gear, no food.

Test 2 - As much HP gear as you possibly can, no food.

Test 3 - Highest HP you can get from food, but no HP+ gear.

Test 4 - As much HP gear as you can, and the strongest HP food.

For each test say your Base, Food Bonus, and Equip Bonus. I would suggest never including Mantra in any of these tests, but if the same person could do all 4 of those tests it would probably be the most effective way to get some exact numbers / formulae.