Low number Limbus

[Naphtali]

Apollyon SW:

The mimics on 3F are not sleepable by BLM or RDM sleep - only BRD lullaby works. I tried soloing this route with a BRD and NIN helper today just watching and running in if the mimc could not be slept. I soloed everything else basically with ease (1F, 2F, and 4F trigger mobs).

I think this zone is definitely doable by BLM and BRD at this point.

Duo'ed this using mnk and brd. Knowing which fomor to pull on floor 1 saves a lot of time.

The Fomor is the race of the first person that enters right?

[Vistani]

Apollyon SW:

The mimics on 3F are not sleepable by BLM or RDM sleep - only BRD lullaby works. I tried soloing this route with a BRD and NIN helper today just watching and running in if the mimc could not be slept. I soloed everything else basically with ease (1F, 2F, and 4F trigger mobs).

I think this zone is definitely doable by BLM and BRD at this point.

Duo'ed this using mnk and brd. Knowing which fomor to pull on floor 1 saves a lot of time.

The Fomor is the race of the first person that enters right?

Yes, one of them will drop the chests, other will open portal. Duo'd this zone with WAR RDM with quite a chunk of time left, pretty easy duo for most combos I'd think.

[Naphtali]

Just did it with DRK NIN RDM. Won with about 10min to spare.

I'm always trying to get pop set more fast with my Limbus LS. Have been doing 2 Areas each time mostly. Decided to try 3 today with 13 people. DRK,NIN,RDM won SW. BLM PT killing Kaiser atm, will win np. Just wating to see if other PT clears SE ok. WARx2, BRD, RDM,RDM. Should win easily but they don't have the best gear, and they never led SE before so I don't know.

For sure though should be able to clear 3 easily, probably 4 easily but I'm happy with 3 areas in a day.

[Churchill]

The tree is nasty, what do you do for him? Obviously you can fight it and I'd prefer to do so on MNK, just seems it'd be a little dangerous.

[aurik]

elegy, march, be good at blink tanking, win (slowly)

[Churchill]

Well obviously, I just think it'd be much harder to do as a WAR than as a MNK. I think most of the trouble this guy ever gives me is due to having too many people hit it...akin to solo'ing triple gears or fighting them with 1-2 other melee.

[Vistani]

Well obviously, I just think it'd be much harder to do as a WAR than as a MNK. I think most of the trouble this guy ever gives me is due to having too many people hit it...akin to solo'ing triple gears or fighting them with 1-2 other melee.

It was a harder duo with war+rdm than with mnk+brd for sure.

[Naphtali]

Tree was the hardest part for us. But.. I kinda cheated and use kraken/SE/BW on it. Took it down to around 20%..then I died and the NIN was able to finish it off. He only used his dispel all + slow move once, so that kinda was lucky I guess. Def. the hardest part to SW though. Next time I'd like to do it with 4 members (rdm+brd).

Also it was probably closer to 5mins left when we won, because I forget to kill the other Fomor on 1F to get the time chest >.>

So we cleared it w/o any time chests, + waited for my weakened to end before we kill the 1 mimic to pop Vortex to 4F, have lots of time if you get a time chest.

edit: Just a side note, I'd def. do this with MNKx2 or NINx2 or some mix of those jobs for DD. Subtle Blow helps, don't want that tree doing too many dispel all WS's.

[JetEnduro]

I attempted Omega with a small group I lead with 8 and wiped at 17%.
Honestly I didn't think it was so bad granted that only 3 out of 8 ppl had fought him before.
Setup was
PLD/NIN
PLD/NIN
RDM/DRK
BRD/WHM
BLM/RDM
BLM/RDM

This pt was mainly for pods:
RDM/NIN
BLM/NIN

PLD/NIN is ok but i'll switch it to NIN/DRKs next time since they can generate more hate in a short period of time. I was missing 2-3 ppl which is why i had no choice but to bring PLD/NIN.

[Fated]

Just tell your non pod party BLMs to stun Collosal Blow and you won't have problems.

Your tanks can run away from it too, it has a long casting time, honestly, if you got that far, you should be able to take it down with that same setup, don't need NIN/DRKs.

[OctavoGilgamesh]

I attempted Omega with a small group I lead with 8 and wiped at 17%.
Honestly I didn't think it was so bad granted that only 3 out of 8 ppl had fought him before.
Setup was
PLD/NIN
PLD/NIN
RDM/DRK
BRD/WHM
BLM/RDM
BLM/RDM

This pt was mainly for pods:
RDM/NIN
BLM/NIN

PLD/NIN is ok but i'll switch it to NIN/DRKs next time since they can generate more hate in a short period of time. I was missing 2-3 ppl which is why i had no choice but to bring PLD/NIN.

I've won with 9, and also lost with 10. Simple mistakes can kill your run after 25%. If you let the pods run free for more than a second, it's all over with. Collosal Blow is tought to deal with if it gets off. Like another said, run away or try to stun it.

[TacoTaru]

Aurik did you pop time on both the 1st floor and 2nd floor to make it up with enough time? or were you clearing fast enough that you were able to pop item on 2nd?

[aurik]

Aurik did you pop time on both the 1st floor and 2nd floor to make it up with enough time? or were you clearing fast enough that you were able to pop item on 2nd?

which zone?

[TacoTaru]

Oops sorry, I was referring to your post on when you duo'd SW as Mnk+Brd. I didn't notice the post was from last year, sorry.

[aurik]

time on 1f, only kill 1 tree on 2f, time+items+restore on 3rd, win on 4th.

[Kaeko]

I attempted Omega with a small group I lead with 8 and wiped at 17%.
Honestly I didn't think it was so bad granted that only 3 out of 8 ppl had fought him before.
Setup was
PLD/NIN
PLD/NIN
RDM/DRK
BRD/WHM
BLM/RDM
BLM/RDM

This pt was mainly for pods:
RDM/NIN
BLM/NIN

PLD/NIN is ok but i'll switch it to NIN/DRKs next time since they can generate more hate in a short period of time. I was missing 2-3 ppl which is why i had no choice but to bring PLD/NIN.

I've won with 9, and also lost with 10. Simple mistakes can kill your run after 25%. If you let the pods run free for more than a second, it's all over with. Collosal Blow is tought to deal with if it gets off. Like another said, run away or try to stun it.

Try coordinating chainspell stun for the last 25% on this. The action sequence is very predictable. This is what we tend to do now for this...

Get Omega to around 26%.
Wait for it to go 4 legs mode (magic weak)
Time coordinate strongest nuke all BLMs
Omega goes below 25%
Omega goes final form
Omega uses Pod Ejection (always happens at this shift point)
Kill Pod
Pod Dies >> RDM/DRK 2hr stun start
BLMs manafont and nuke.
Tanks kite in a loose circle around the BLMs to keep omega in range

We've done Omega this way maybe 4-5 times with 3 BLMs as DD. If you take NIN tanks, Mijin Gakure works really well. Doesn't seem to receive the -50% damage penalty like everything else does in this last form. You can probably 6 man (like we originally intended on blog) using a similar strat with 2 decked out BLMs, but we've never gone lower than 7 in practice.

This fight is really about coordinating the last 25%. As you said earlier, the first 75% is really a joke if you have any idea what's giong on and limit TP.

GL

[TacoTaru]

time on 1f, only kill 1 tree on 2f, time+items+restore on 3rd, win on 4th.

Awesome thanks for that, we're gonna give this a shot on our next Apollyon set.

[Secksi]

I attempted Omega with a small group I lead with 8 and wiped at 17%.
Honestly I didn't think it was so bad granted that only 3 out of 8 ppl had fought him before.
Setup was
PLD/NIN
PLD/NIN
RDM/DRK
BRD/WHM
BLM/RDM
BLM/RDM

This pt was mainly for pods:
RDM/NIN
BLM/NIN

PLD/NIN is ok but i'll switch it to NIN/DRKs next time since they can generate more hate in a short period of time. I was missing 2-3 ppl which is why i had no choice but to bring PLD/NIN.

I've won with 9, and also lost with 10. Simple mistakes can kill your run after 25%. If you let the pods run free for more than a second, it's all over with. Collosal Blow is tought to deal with if it gets off. Like another said, run away or try to stun it.

Try coordinating chainspell stun for the last 25% on this. The action sequence is very predictable. This is what we tend to do now for this...

Get Omega to around 26%.
Wait for it to go 4 legs mode (magic weak)
Time coordinate strongest nuke all BLMs
Omega goes below 25%
Omega goes final form
Omega uses Pod Ejection (always happens at this shift point)
Kill Pod
Pod Dies >> RDM/DRK 2hr stun start
BLMs manafont and nuke.
Tanks kite in a loose circle around the BLMs to keep omega in range

We've done Omega this way maybe 4-5 times with 3 BLMs as DD. If you take NIN tanks, Mijin Gakure works really well. Doesn't seem to receive the -50% damage penalty like everything else does in this last form. You can probably 6 man (like we originally intended on blog) using a similar strat with 2 decked out BLMs, but we've never gone lower than 7 in practice.

This fight is really about coordinating the last 25%. As you said earlier, the first 75% is really a joke if you have any idea what's giong on and limit TP.

GL

This is what you do and just kill it or farm? It's pretty much the same strat we use but I take 8-10 people usually and farm the last 20 minutes or so leaving Omega at 5-10% until we get 2 x colossal'd or 3-5min warning. 100% confident we could kill it with with 6-7 like that but I like to farm the pods.

[Kaeko]

I attempted Omega with a small group I lead with 8 and wiped at 17%.
Honestly I didn't think it was so bad granted that only 3 out of 8 ppl had fought him before.
Setup was
PLD/NIN
PLD/NIN
RDM/DRK
BRD/WHM
BLM/RDM
BLM/RDM

This pt was mainly for pods:
RDM/NIN
BLM/NIN

PLD/NIN is ok but i'll switch it to NIN/DRKs next time since they can generate more hate in a short period of time. I was missing 2-3 ppl which is why i had no choice but to bring PLD/NIN.

I've won with 9, and also lost with 10. Simple mistakes can kill your run after 25%. If you let the pods run free for more than a second, it's all over with. Collosal Blow is tought to deal with if it gets off. Like another said, run away or try to stun it.

Try coordinating chainspell stun for the last 25% on this. The action sequence is very predictable. This is what we tend to do now for this...

Get Omega to around 26%.
Wait for it to go 4 legs mode (magic weak)
Time coordinate strongest nuke all BLMs
Omega goes below 25%
Omega goes final form
Omega uses Pod Ejection (always happens at this shift point)
Kill Pod
Pod Dies >> RDM/DRK 2hr stun start
BLMs manafont and nuke.
Tanks kite in a loose circle around the BLMs to keep omega in range

We've done Omega this way maybe 4-5 times with 3 BLMs as DD. If you take NIN tanks, Mijin Gakure works really well. Doesn't seem to receive the -50% damage penalty like everything else does in this last form. You can probably 6 man (like we originally intended on blog) using a similar strat with 2 decked out BLMs, but we've never gone lower than 7 in practice.

This fight is really about coordinating the last 25%. As you said earlier, the first 75% is really a joke if you have any idea what's giong on and limit TP.

GL

This is what you do and just kill it or farm? It's pretty much the same strat we use but I take 8-10 people usually and farm the last 20 minutes or so leaving Omega at 5-10% until we get 2 x colossal'd or 3-5min warning. 100% confident we could kill it with with 6-7 like that but I like to farm the pods.

Yea if you're confident you should leave it 1 nuke off and farm pods. Considering they lost, I just figured they would want to avoid the risk and get a win first. You can certainly farm pods still though.

[JetEnduro]

Yeah, I want to get a win under our belts first so everyone can get more confident as we fight him more. Then we'll go for farming.
Honestly, we died because our pod pt was made of ppl fighting omega the first time. A pod popped very early into the fight and it was dealt with very easily. When it went into final form they kind of panicked for some reason and froze, ending in our PLDs dying .

Thanks all for your input.