Low number Limbus

[Vyerz]

No >.> Thats BS, I've done NE apollyon many times recently and the last 3 times I wasn't careful with my pulling and managed to link 3-4 mandys who ran all the way accross the zone to kill the other party members.

I believe that Limbus mobs share party hate 60% of the time, every time.

[deced]

Mandragora on NE floor 1 go passive after killing their target, even in a party. So no, all limbus mobs do not have party-hate.

Those definitely do not go passive if you're in a party.

[Vistani]

They definitely go passive if you generate hate on them after agro. Scenario on tuesday was: 2 black mandies agro'd me, I Horde lullaby'd them, I die and they go passive with other 2 party members standing like 15 feet away.

On 2F Birds also, the Chest and Vortex pop from the same type. That is, if you say kill a Biolazer (first type of big bird you will see on that floor), if it drops Item Chest, you know 100% the other Biolazer pops vortex. If the first Biolazer doesn't give vortex or item, then you know the 2 Thaizis will. This way, you are only having to kill 3 of the 4 birds tops.

Hey I posted that on your lj! Anybody know any other handy things like this about limbus zones? Also, does anybody know if there's a pattern to when Omega pops gun pods? Kaeko presented an idea a while ago that they popped at intervals of 5 minutes after it enters its final phase, but in my most recent omega run I had a pod pop less than 3 minutes after the previous one.

[aurik]

No >.> Thats BS

Nah, Vistani has died to mandies dozens of times and they haven't come after us.

[Vistani]

No >.> Thats BS

Nah, Vistani has died to mandies dozens of times and they haven't come after us.

Fucking useless monks.

[Vedder]

Also, does anybody know if there's a pattern to when Omega pops gun pods? Kaeko presented an idea a while ago that they popped at intervals of 5 minutes after it enters its final phase, but in my most recent omega run I had a pod pop less than 3 minutes after the previous one.

There's a pattern prior to final phase, but if I recall popping pods in the final phase just becomes a normal TP move and it can do it anytime it does a TP move.

We always farm until close to the time to exit... sometimes we get 4-5 Gunpods in final phase, sometimes we get 2-3. It's random.

[Mojo]

Omega will eject a pod when it changes from two leg mode to four leg mode for the first time. This is triggered by time or by its HP reaching 75%. It seems to be one or the other, not a combination of both, chosen randomly when you enter.
Omega will eject a pod when its HP reaches 25% HP. It goes in to its final form at this point.
Omega will eject a pod around 180 seconds after entering final form. I'm not sure on the exact time, it could be slightly random.
Omega then ejects a pod every 300 seconds.

Pod Ejection isn't TP based.

[siknoz]

We watched for this very closely last night, and yes in the final phase he does pop pods every 5min.

[Vyerz]

So this is the 3rd time I've attempted Temenos West (We've been sticking to Apollyon for a while), and failed..
Our luck with the time chests is as shitty as can be, although we do seem to get many Item chests off the bat lol...
Was wondering if theres a straight forward way of winning with 6-8 people (wide range of jobs besides Blm's) with a near 100% success rate.

Was wondering if just killing the first mob on every floor and going up would work >.> ~ Worst case scenario: The fund pays for everyone's limbus and everyone gets a short limbus day

[Fawk]

I can honestly say for Temenos West, there is no sure fire way to win the zone. You can go multiple floors without a time chest, or get one each floor from first to 6th. I recommend clearing each monster on each floor unless you get all 3 chests and still have mobs up then you can justify skipping the remaining mobs on that said floor. Even bringing large numbers into this zone does not promise a win, we go in with 6 and often have good luck. I think the last few times we 6 manned it we did NIN BRD RDM NIN BLM BLM. We just communicate on skillchains and finish mobs off quickly, while anticipating everyone besides the NIN can always use their 2 hours up. Since the gate opens after the first mob (pretty sure) on each floor that would include killing 6 mobs (1 per floor) and 6 birds at the top. No reason at all that you couldn't do that as a last resort.

[aurik]

So this is the 3rd time I've attempted Temenos West (We've been sticking to Apollyon for a while), and failed..
Our luck with the time chests is as shitty as can be, although we do seem to get many Item chests off the bat lol...
Was wondering if theres a straight forward way of winning with 6-8 people (wide range of jobs besides Blm's) with a near 100% success rate.

Was wondering if just killing the first mob on every floor and going up would work >.> ~ Worst case scenario: The fund pays for everyone's limbus and everyone gets a short limbus day

We take DD + DD + brd (3 people total) for tem.west and just slaughter everything except slimes. Move fast enough and always take time if you're under 15 minutes. Rarely have time issues.

[Vyerz]

So you 3 man it and kill everything except the slimes? >.>

[aurik]

So you 3 man it and kill everything except the slimes? >.>

Hmm, I think we might also skip the triple mandragora pull at the end of the 2nd floor. But yes, kill more and faster and the chance of time trouble is pretty low.

[Vyerz]

What a BAMF

[bercus]

Omega will eject a pod when it changes from two leg mode to four leg mode for the first time. This is triggered by time or by its HP reaching 75%. It seems to be one or the other, not a combination of both, chosen randomly when you enter.
Omega will eject a pod when its HP reaches 25% HP. It goes in to its final form at this point.
Omega will eject a pod around 180 seconds after entering final form. I'm not sure on the exact time, it could be slightly random.
Omega then ejects a pod every 300 seconds.

Pod Ejection isn't TP based.

Our Omega on Sunday:
After the first Gunpod from changing form, which is 100%, and Omega is still not in final form the Pod Ejections from changing form are random. We tried to farm in not final form at 30% and ended up not getting a Pod for 15 minutes while Omega changed 5-6 times it´s form..
We then decided to get it into final form and BLMs nuked it into final form. We got then 2 Gunpods within 30 seconds.

So in final form there seems to be a 5 minute timer. Not in final form is random when changing 2legs>4legs>2legs forms.
Since not in final form is random, I would suggest getting it down asap and farm in final form. Only negative point is are the Hate reset moves which should be no problem at all.

I think the 5 minute timer starts once you engage Omega. That could be the reason we got 2 Gunpods in 30 seconds. The one when it goes into final form. (Marker was maybe at 19:30 then after engaging) and then 30 seconds later it was 20 minutes.
Have to test that out next time.

PS: Yes I did a necro bump ;_;

[FailureMidgard]

So you 3 man it and kill everything except the slimes? >.>

The real question is how many time chests drop...

[VZX]

I have question regarding 2nd floor Temenos (elemental and carby)

How do you kite the carby and another light elemental while the rest of the party kill the other light elemental? Our last attempt had the light elemental chasing whoever cast the grav on carby even the PLD had voked and flash it. I think the elemental for a few seconds had hate on our tank but we immediately lose the hate again (I am pretty sure this is not because the PLD got hit hard)

[JetEnduro]

Have your whm sub smn and carby pull.

[aurik]

Whoever pulls carby gets a ton of hate on the elementals for some reason. We just use grav and have the melee bang away at it until it switches hate (like 50% hp)

[Mojo]

Carby pulling the elementals one at a time has worked fine for us. We never seemed to experience this hate issue or it wasn't significant enough to become a problem, although we always have them drop out of party first(just in case) so maybe this affects it somehow.

In regards to pods~

I'm sure what I said was nearly 100% accurate. I don't think Omega can even put out pods from changing form after the first form change, which explains why when you held it at 30% it never ejected any pods. I have yet to figure out what determines the first timed pod after the 25% pod. Maybe it's like you said and it's determined by the time you enter the zone. Either way, it doesn't affect the overall scheme of things too much so I don't really care tbh.