Capping Parry Skill

[Khamsin]

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My throwing skill was only 7 at the time so maybe that had something to do with it.

I'm surprised you actually hit it. Since the RNG nerf, I'd expect even a NIN with capped throwing to miss semi-frequently.

Then again, somehow we've even had BLMs miraculously toss winds at gods and still hit, with no +r.acc and nowhere near capped throwing. So maybe throwing is just bugged.

[layoneil]

you never have 0% accuracy just like you never have 100% accuracy. there's always like 5% both ways.

[Serif]

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My throwing skill was only 7 at the time so maybe that had something to do with it.

You can skillup ranged attacks on 0 dmg; I've done it a few times, particularly when I was levelling thf solo using venom bolts on worms who put up stoneskin.

For the record, the only thing they nerfed was skilling up melee weapons when doing 0 dmg. Mostly because you could signet-staff + afk in sea on the hpemdes, and come back with maxed skill.

Ahhh I misunderstood then.

I could of sworn I read something about how PLD/RDM wouldn't work as well seeing how you couldn't get skill ups from getting hit for 0.

What I am gonna start doing is 2houring at random peoples Seiryu and tanking it and then logging out. Rinse and repeat!

[genome]

you can skillup on a guarded 0 dmg attack, but it's usually not even relevant as mnk unless your guard is really low. Stoneskin and phalanx (especially from subjob) don't really help much when you start having to skillup on EP/DC to 75 mobs.

[Khamsin]

you can skillup on a guarded 0 dmg attack, but it's usually not even relevant as mnk unless your guard is really low. Stoneskin and phalanx (especially from subjob) don't really help much when you start having to skillup on EP/DC to 75 mobs.

Except on chigoes. I got quite a bit of shield skill as RDM, taking 0 damage the entire time. And they are EP/DC to 75 mobs.

[DrObvious]

Stoneskin and phalanx (especially from subjob) don't really help much when you start having to skillup on EP/DC to 75 mobs.

Stoneskin and phalanx are the only reason why rdm mains can skillup shield/parry easily...

[MrW]

Parry currently at 247. Best way to skill to 230 (as NIN) is to go to Monastic Cavern, put on - dmg gear/+VIT gear/pop a tav taco/Defender and hax a 75 whm account from one of your friends. Grab a DC Orc MNK and let it whack the shit outta you forever (voke occasionally). Just have the WHM cast Regen III and the regen will cancel out the dmg the orc does. From 230-247 Sea is great. UFO's and Aern's especially. Other than that tank anything and everything you possibly can endgame. I havent seen a skillup in 2 months thought, parry is random as hell. :/

[Chidorii]

My buddy Tsu mentioned this once and I've been thinking about this for a long time but never actually tried it.
If you add one merit point into a skill that is uncapped you will notice that skill automatically goes up even though it is uncapped. Now what happens if you remove the merit point into parry, will your parrying skill go back down even though it was never at the cap? Or does removing the parry merit only shift your skill cap back down but you keep the skill increase?
If that is the case, you could repeatedly add and remove 1 merit point into your parrying skill till it hits the cap. Though seeing how this was never done before i just always assume it doesnt work...

[threevo]

Shield skill seems to be the only real defensive skill thats worth anything out of the shield/parry/guard set.

Actually guard is pretty awesome, for the same reasons that shield is good. With no defense buffs or food, besiege monsters hit me for 30 or less out of 2k+ HP when guarded
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But parrying is definitely easiest to skillup compared to guarding (you can skill it up from many jobs, through shadows, and you get skillups a lot more easily/often). Shield is the easiest to cap so in a sense it's not quite as impressive :wink:

The difference here is that I've never come across a MNK with capped guarding, ever.

Kenz is getting close. Hes been duo/trio XPing Off T-VT mobs outside azouph SP getting better xp than most of my xp pts on my 73 thf.
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[Mifaco]

kenzmasters truly a god among men.

Leveling guard is one of the slowest, most painful experiences you can do in this game. Even summoners have it easy.

[geno]

Stoneskin and phalanx (especially from subjob) don't really help much when you start having to skillup on EP/DC to 75 mobs.

Stoneskin and phalanx are the only reason why rdm mains can skillup shield/parry easily...

*very easily. i'm 100% sure if you had enough time, you could take RDM shield skill from 0 to 189 in one day.

I did level 80 to level 189 shield in one day. Almost all of it was on chigoes (technically lv0 - lv183 since I had done 0-80 on chigoes as well). The last couple levels I did on Pucks since chigoes (even the ones off Marids) stopped skilling me up, or at least did so a lot slower. Level 0 to 80 was nothing against chigoes and went by very quickly.

I actually owe chigoes for morethan my shield skill because after I would put up buffs, I would have a lot of extra time where I was getting hit for zero. With that extra time, I would Refresh myself and spam barspells until I capped Enhancing.

Also, in regards to Gaurd skill.. I'm actually pretty sure there is a MNK on my server with it capped. Superstar-something-or-other... The galka MNK tank for a gilseller group. Friend of mine asked him how high is gaurd was over 6 months ago and he said it was 260 lol.

[Sefier]

shame on you Geno Enhancing should be capped from EXP!

[geno]

RDM was my third job, it didn't take very long to get to 75.

[Eaglestrike]

RDM was my third job, it didn't take very long to get to 75.

Even his parties with a pld tank were like 6k/hour in Bibiki >.> <.<

I'm up to 210 parrying, it's one of the big reasons why I lvl'd pld. Getting parrying to 225 on pld, then heading over to nin or something. Thief with capped parrying will be such a monster. XD

[genome]

Stoneskin and phalanx (especially from subjob) don't really help much when you start having to skillup on EP/DC to 75 mobs.

Stoneskin and phalanx are the only reason why rdm mains can skillup shield/parry easily...

*very easily. i'm 100% sure if you had enough time, you could take RDM shield skill from 0 to 189 in one day.

I did level 80 to level 189 shield in one day. Almost all of it was on chigoes (technically lv0 - lv183 since I had done 0-80 on chigoes as well). The last couple levels I did on Pucks since chigoes (even the ones off Marids) stopped skilling me up, or at least did so a lot slower. Level 0 to 80 was nothing against chigoes and went by very quickly.

I actually owe chigoes for morethan my shield skill because after I would put up buffs, I would have a lot of extra time where I was getting hit for zero. With that extra time, I would Refresh myself and spam barspells until I capped Enhancing.

Also, in regards to Gaurd skill.. I'm actually pretty sure there is a MNK on my server with it capped. Superstar-something-or-other... The galka MNK tank for a gilseller group. Friend of mine asked him how high is gaurd was over 6 months ago and he said it was 260 lol.

I was talking about guarding:

you can skillup on a guarded 0 dmg attack, but it's usually not even relevant as mnk unless your guard is really low. Stoneskin and phalanx (especially from subjob) don't really help much when you start having to skillup on EP/DC to 75 mobs.

Red mages don't have guard. As mnk/rdm fighting DC to 75 to get skillups, stoneskin and phalanx are not quite worth the casting time anymore.

[geno]

Yeah I could tell, I was just referencing my recent experience to DrObvious's post.

geno wrote:
RDM was my third job, it didn't take very long to get to 75.


Even his parties with a pld tank were like 6k/hour in Bibiki >.> <.<

Damn Leeching PLDs... I mean.. damn leeching you...

[Credos]

My parry is currently at 258 base with 2 merits, and a boxer's mantle. I credit a large portion of my capped parry on PLD to countless coffer/skillup/random bullshit partys. I'd suggest tanking anything that is a MNK, and definatley do the standard +AGI - EVA bit.

You really shouldn't -focus- on capping parry, its just one of those things that will happen with enough merits/tanking/whatever. Best of luck.

[sekaran]

Where are these chigoes? I still need to cap shield on my RDM.. and I guess parryiing on my SAM.. lol

[Belkin]

My parry is currently at 258 base with 2 merits, and a boxer's mantle. I credit a large portion of my capped parry on PLD to countless coffer/skillup/random bullshit partys. I'd suggest tanking anything that is a MNK, and definatley do the standard +AGI - EVA bit.

You really shouldn't -focus- on capping parry, its just one of those things that will happen with enough merits/tanking/whatever. Best of luck.

Yeah, for the most part, if you level PLD to 75 you'll get close to the PLD cap on parry(225), after that its just all luck on NIN pretty much.

[Ejac]

Took forever to cap my parrying. I soloed a lot of mobs in sea for a very long time.
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