Capping Parry Skill

[frozenx]

Took forever to cap my parrying. I soloed a lot of mobs in sea for a very long time.
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Sorry i don't post much at all. My Evasion is capped at 297 just wondering what i need for the last 3? I have evasion earring, 4 merits, boxer's mantle, and evasion torque.

[solsovly]

Took forever to cap my parrying. I soloed a lot of mobs in sea for a very long time.
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Sorry i don't post much at all. My Evasion is capped at 297 just wondering what i need for the last 3? I have evasion earring, 4 merits, boxer's mantle, and evasion torque.

There are various CP items that give evasion skill, melody earrings etc etc.

[Jeryhn]

Where are these chigoes? I still need to cap shield on my RDM.. and I guess parryiing on my SAM.. lol

Go to Nashmau, walk out the east entrance, stay to the right.
Four chigoes pop in this area. Grab one to practice on before you grab multiple chigoes.

You won't cap shield here though. These chigoes only rate EP to 75, so on RDM, it'll take you to about 170 (189 being the cap for shield on RDM).

[Raineer]

Question to those of you with 240+ (or capped) parrying. How much of a difference do you reallly see? Obviously blue numbers>all, which is why i want it capped, but is the proc rate realy that increased? Do you notice it alot more soloing than HNM?

[kareface]

Took forever to cap my parrying. I soloed a lot of mobs in sea for a very long time.
http://stomped.com/mini/blue.jpg

Sorry i don't post much at all. My Evasion is capped at 297 just wondering what i need for the last 3? I have evasion earring, 4 merits, boxer's mantle, and evasion torque.

That pic is a little old. You can get higher then that.

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With a second melody +1 instead of the eva earring, you could have 311. I just sj'ed brd and played a song to kick in the latent. SJ brd is actualy pretty good for soloing. Between the earring and the march song it becomes an intresting option.

If you want to know the best way I found to skill up parrying.

• SJ war or blue, spam defender or cacoon[/*:m:c16c1]
• Use Earth staff (there seems to be a parrying rate bonus with 2h weapons)[/*:m:c16c1]
• Wear a complete DR build. (40% w/ jelly, 50% w/ defending ring)[/*:m:c16c1]
• What evers left wear +parry skill gear[/*:m:c16c1]
• get a bard friend or mule to recast paeon 4 & 5 for many hours[/*:m:c16c1]
• tank 2-3 of the mandy from den of rancor[/*:m:c16c1]
• to save the bards MP, use Ni when the timers up. No point in using ichi.[/*:m:c16c1]
• RR hairpins are your friend[/*:m:c16c1]

I use this method to get me from 250-262 in a few days. 262-269 was soloing stuff in sea for organs and for friends gorgets. You might be able to go all the way to 269 on mandys, but it would take forever. Make sure the bard doesn't med next to you. You need to keep voking one and never build hate on the links. As long as they don't have hate they will always be on you. If shit hits the fan, zone.

Question to those of you with 240+ (or capped) parrying. How much of a difference do you reallly see? Obviously blue numbers>all, which is why i want it capped, but is the proc rate realy that increased? Do you notice it alot more soloing than HNM?

It does proc more often the higher your skill is. But its not like evasion where a ton of skill will make a huge diffrence. It still procs less on higher level mobs. When it does proc its still pretty random. But reguardless, its a good skill to have capped.

[sekaran]

Where are these chigoes? I still need to cap shield on my RDM.. and I guess parryiing on my SAM.. lol

Go to Nashmau, walk out the east entrance, stay to the right.
Four chigoes pop in this area. Grab one to practice on before you grab multiple chigoes.

You won't cap shield here though. These chigoes only rate EP to 75, so on RDM, it'll take you to about 170 (189 being the cap for shield on RDM).

Drats.. my shield is already 170 from letting 3-4 Orcish Champions beat up on me.

[Flight_93]

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No lolsamsash = fail.

Seriously though, where's your "what would you pay for this account?" thread already.

[Jeryhn]

Where are these chigoes? I still need to cap shield on my RDM.. and I guess parryiing on my SAM.. lol

Go to Nashmau, walk out the east entrance, stay to the right.
Four chigoes pop in this area. Grab one to practice on before you grab multiple chigoes.

You won't cap shield here though. These chigoes only rate EP to 75, so on RDM, it'll take you to about 170 (189 being the cap for shield on RDM).

Drats.. my shield is already 170 from letting 3-4 Orcish Champions beat up on me.

It could be possible to push it a bit higher with the chigoes that pop from Karakuls or Marids. These ones tend to be DC to 75. Might take you to 185-ish.

I've tried leeching the chigoes from EXP parties, but with the rate at which they attack, you tend to lose hate to the party that popped it. Get a friend to pull one of these mobs somewhere safe, pop a chigoe, and zone. Claim it and reap the benefits while the orginating mob depops.

[Raineer]

Capping shield on RDM doesn't get any easier than Pucks, really... I went from 181-189 in 2 hours as RDM/BLU, hell with cocoon and good gear you can take 2 pretty easily.

Trying to squeeze that last point out of a mob that's too easy is just hell, step up to the next mob and get .2's and .3's.

[geno]

Where are these chigoes? I still need to cap shield on my RDM.. and I guess parryiing on my SAM.. lol

Go to Nashmau, walk out the east entrance, stay to the right.
Four chigoes pop in this area. Grab one to practice on before you grab multiple chigoes.

You won't cap shield here though. These chigoes only rate EP to 75, so on RDM, it'll take you to about 170 (189 being the cap for shield on RDM).

Drats.. my shield is already 170 from letting 3-4 Orcish Champions beat up on me.

It could be possible to push it a bit higher with the chigoes that pop from Karakuls or Marids. These ones tend to be DC to 75. Might take you to 185-ish.

I've tried leeching the chigoes from EXP parties, but with the rate at which they attack, you tend to lose hate to the party that popped it. Get a friend to pull one of these mobs somewhere safe, pop a chigoe, and zone. Claim it and reap the benefits while the orginating mob depops.

That is what I did when the chigoes in aydeewa (same level as the ones in Caedarva) stopped giving me skill (170ish). I meleed a Marid for awhile until I got two chigoes out of it, and a BLM friend of mine finished the Marid off and warped while I kept the chigoes (which lasted to around 183).

[rahskala]

What level is that Chigoe NM you pop at the ??? for the map quest? There was a zone line nearby that you could use to reset it... the hard part would be finding somebody who hasn't completed the quest yet.

[kareface]

Capping shield on RDM doesn't get any easier than Pucks, really... I went from 181-189 in 2 hours as RDM/BLU, hell with cocoon and good gear you can take 2 pretty easily.

Trying to squeeze that last point out of a mob that's too easy is just hell, step up to the next mob and get .2's and .3's.

Between rdm and blu buffs, whats the highest you can get your defence?

[Raineer]

Capping shield on RDM doesn't get any easier than Pucks, really... I went from 181-189 in 2 hours as RDM/BLU, hell with cocoon and good gear you can take 2 pretty easily.

Trying to squeeze that last point out of a mob that's too easy is just hell, step up to the next mob and get .2's and .3's.

Between rdm and blu buffs, whats the highest you can get your defence?

690 when I'm using AGI and +parry (or shield) gear to try and actually skill it, 750+ without.

[Tarukiss]

What level is that Chigoe NM you pop at the ??? for the map quest? There was a zone line nearby that you could use to reset it... the hard part would be finding somebody who hasn't completed the quest yet.

You don't want any part of that NM for skill ups.

Endrain + hundred fist speed + high accurracy = no.

It will aggro everyone coming/going to from whitegate if you actually make it that far to zone.

[Grey Jorildyn]

One word: Steelshells.

Parry capped 9-29-2005~

[Tyr]

I'm currently @ 219.5, and I've gotten I think 4 full levels this past week.

I two-box NIN + WHM usually, so I have the luxury of healing myself -- haven't done the onion tanking w/ max defense build yet, but this week, I solo exp'ed in sky.

If you have the luxury of a WHM (or you can duo with a WHM, it's great exp), and are a NIN, go duo in sky on Aura Statues / Aura Pots. Aura Pots are a little more annoying cuz they cast often instead of straight attacking. Aura Statues rock because they have high accuracy and con IT, so they usually go through your evasion meaning higher chance of parrying proc'ing. I got +.9 off my first two Aura Statues.

Plus, if you pop exp ring, its 450 --> 540 --> 562 exp for up to chain2.


Only annoying thing about these mobs is that they resist ninjutsu a lot, and I like to keep them Hojo'd. My setup was a DD setup (evasion-30, parrying skill +17) with exception of back/neck. If you are going to sky, I say give an Aura Statue a shot.


Also, aside from Sea Puks, which attack pretty fast, I've noticed I parry a lot against Mamool Ja Stablers in thickets, like I'd say about 15-20%.

[Kriz]

When I'm bored, I try to level Shield in Toraimorai Canal off the EP pugils...

The easy non-aggro ones got me to 160 easily, and the aggroing easy prey ones got me to 192 pretty quickly as well.

Course, the skillups have slowed, the last 18 levels probably will have to be done in Boyahda or Kuftal.

Even as a WHM, I normally duo with my NPC. Probably will set NPC to healer mode for the run from 192->210. I hope at 62, she'll have a good amount of MP to dump as I get tossed around by crabs...

[chiz]

Not sure what shield cap is for RDM but the fastest way by far that I know of to get to @230 skill is to grab 2-3 Champions in Davoi/Monasticav and let them wail on you. With Genbu's shield, def food and maxed enhancing Phalanx they'll hit you for 0 on non-crits, stoneskin will eat any additional damage on crits. This works for WHMs and even PLD (with high enough enhancing).

Its harder now to round up 2-3 Champions bc of the despawn patch, what you can do is train 4-5 (mostly Champions if you're lucky), and then sleep/kill the non-Champions or have a friend come to help you get started.

As for Parry, best skill ups I found 255+ were the IT Aerns that pop Ix'Drg. .3-.5s all the way to cap with consistent skill ups. HNMs have never given me good results. Aspid stopped skilling around 230, Faf/Nidh gave me a total of .1 with countless parries, and Tiamat/Jorm/Vrtra 1x.5(off of Tiamat).

If you go the solo route, I've heard NIN/RDM does really well if you go with a dmg reduction/defense build and have someone to heal/refresh you. Don't cast Utsusemi unless you need to get stoneskin/phalanx back up and just let the mobs wail on you.

And for those saying capping Parry isn't that good.....any NIN that has tanked anything significant will tell you that Parry procs the most when blinks are down, usually while you're recasting and trying to get a new set of blinks up.

Idk what proc rate is, I'm sure its tied into mob level and dependent on stats like AGI/mob accuracy/evasion etc., but even if its 10% with 279 skill (low estimate imo) that puts it on par with the items people obsess about on these forums: Shadow Mantle and D.ring.

Chiz

[Priran]

You don't want any part of that NM for skill ups.

Endrain + hundred fist speed + high accurracy = no.

It's Enaspir and it's only 1 MP a hit.

Also, it hit my 75MNK for about 50 a hit, and it only has like 300 or so defense.

[Twolves]

Having capped parrying doesnt make any differnce at all, i wouldn't bother trying so hard to cap i. If you want it capped that bad just xp a lot and it'll cap eventually