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  1. #41
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    I wanna know how you blus get 999 def ; ;

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airshort7
    I wanna know how you blus get 999 def ; ;
    Cocoon = +50% defense. Toss with def stuff, defender, and success.

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    i can get to 900 with self spells/gear and P4..
    with minne i get 999

    as for using mantle in party.. i got max war gear and a 3 STR atk+15 isnt a loss to me lol plus i was already parsing at 38% of party dmg

    as for the guy that said he tested on EP.. ya EP = u resist dmg more
    the idea of this the more ur dmg resistence is the more chance it has to proc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanislav
    i can get to 900 with self spells/gear and P4..
    with minne i get 999

    as for using mantle in party.. i got max war gear and a 3 STR atk+15 isnt a loss to me lol plus i was already parsing at 38% of party dmg

    as for the guy that said he tested on EP.. ya EP = u resist dmg more
    the idea of this the more ur dmg resistence is the more chance it has to proc
    Pic of your gear plz ; ; b/c I can't break like 600 with gear / pro IV and tac taco ; ;

    What other self spells you using? Just cocoon?

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    look at my avatar i want attention

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    HELLO NOT SAFE FOR WORK.

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    your right lol so u are the only lucky one tonight

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airshort7
    Quote Originally Posted by Stanislav
    i can get to 900 with self spells/gear and P4..
    with minne i get 999

    as for using mantle in party.. i got max war gear and a 3 STR atk+15 isnt a loss to me lol plus i was already parsing at 38% of party dmg

    as for the guy that said he tested on EP.. ya EP = u resist dmg more
    the idea of this the more ur dmg resistence is the more chance it has to proc
    Pic of your gear plz ; ; b/c I can't break like 600 with gear / pro IV and tac taco ; ;

    What other self spells you using? Just cocoon?
    full crimson- body (homam instead)
    shadow mantle
    warwolf belt
    genbu shield
    bibiki seashell
    etc..

    BLU/WAR

    cocoon/defender/taco/p4
    in PT now so i cant post it o.o

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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa
    How can you tell me that you'd wear a Shadow Mantle in XP, yet use Berserk? Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but the extra damage you take due to Berserk raping your defence will easily out do the negation from a 5-10% Shadow Mantle proc rate, would it not ?
    Quote Originally Posted by RKenshin
    15 Attack and 3 STR is great, but when you're wearing some of the best gear in the game to go with it, not having that 15 attack and 3 STR will never make or break you. It won't make a really noticeable difference if much at all.

    On the other hand, as one of the more powerful DDs in a PT I'm sure that anyone who can relate to being in that position dislikes becomming any sort of an MP sink, and would like to do anything to get away from the often unavoidable situations where you take heavy damage and/or die (especially on those damn wyverns). I've seen Shadow Mantle proc both often enough to save a good amount of MP and often enough to save the user from death on multiple occasions, as uncommon as it really does proc it does make a difference at times (with the exception of some flukes, which I think Stan was experiencing).
    Not using Berserk would have an impact on your damage output, not using a Forager's Mantle would have a miniscule effect if any at all in a single exp PT. There's a huge difference between the two, and it's not really accurate to compare them.

    On top of that as I already said, in average pickup PTs where you're literally dishing out 40-50% of the total damage in the PT and tanking more than anyone else in fights that occasionally stretch... You will get hit, you will take damage, and you will even occasionally die. Even in the best PTs, shit happens, and it happens most often to the bigger DDs. Not to brag, but as a person that has just about all the best gear save HQ Abjurations for my DD jobs, I know these situations very well as I'm sure some other people do.

    If you're already doing almost half the PTs damage, why would it matter if you choose to have a better chance of taking less damage and dieing less often in a trade for some attack/STR that really wouldn't change a thing?

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