10th Dimension

[GRT]

heh, that's called presentation technique. when you are trying to sell something, and you don't sound absolutely sure of yourself, a lot of people won't take you seriously

Exactly what is this guy trying to sell!?!?! I wonder....
/strokechin

i dunno... the theory? or maybe the book? lol

[Alleya]

If our reality is infinite and there’s no end to the universe then everything has happened multiple times, simultaneously and with out missing a single instant. With that said, there’s a lot of living around with no real explanation. If we can’t explain our own existence through logic then something is blocking our logic. This is why I believe the world we live in now is not real. Explaining what conscious is has yet to be explained; all we know is what it can do.

If want to jump to another reality where your grandfather didn’t die? Odds are it's out there...

Logic is not a means to an end. Whether or not we "exist" or if the world is "real" is a red herring. Existance is infallable as a concept because without it all other explanations fall apart, including logic. Admiting existance is basically admiting the possibility of God.

On the other side of that, existance is an explanation, not a rule. It is fallable because most people accept that mankind does not have the capacity to understand and fully explain the universe.

The question is which side do you take. Does existance exist? Is it possible for existance to not exist? Does it even matter?

[Enkidu]

so 10th dimension = everything?

According to string theory, yeah.

It's really just taking shrodingers cat to the extreme, you could easily make a case for 11, 12, ..., infinite dimensions if you really wanted to, you'd just have to conceive of something bigger then a universe. (something "outside" of the universe)

Quantum physics is really hard to learn and impossible to understand, it's sorta like seeing a white ball in front of you and someone coming along and saying "no, that's a blue square, idiot."

[Tyr]

heh, that's called presentation technique. when you are trying to sell something, and you don't sound absolutely sure of yourself, a lot of people won't take you seriously

Exactly what is this guy trying to sell!?!?! I wonder....
/strokechin

i dunno... the theory? or maybe the book? lol

sarcasm my good man!

on topic: that was pretty interesting. some government guy (hes in fbi i think) came to school one day and explained something like this. he also said the government is spending millions for studying this kind of thing along with ESP stuff (that humans are capable of being phsycic)

Humans are capable of being psychic, duh...don't you / didn't you watch Psych? (Good show btw.)

[Demosthenes]

I told someone once, that everything that will happen has already "happned" and simply because we don't percieve past the 3rd dimension... I told him time travel and dimension hopping were along the same lines. In which case, everything that can happen to us has already "happened". I said going back in time would be easy, in comparison to finding the future where you made yourself rich by going back in time. Chances are you would come back to your regulatr future, and would have only succeeded in creating another "timeline" which cannot be obtained by "time travel" but by "sliding" (aka sliders). He called me mad. As did one of my teachers. I never spoke of it again... I should have held on to that money making idea and written a book...

I daresay that not only did you not grasp the concept that the site/book put forward, but that string theory has probably been around since before you were born.

I do realize it has been around before I was born, I was just a bit proud of my self for coming up with it on my own and not reading it elsewhere. Not grasping the concept? Why cause I dumbed it down?

[Not Kuno]

I bought the book. (*'-')b

[shihei]

...it's sorta like seeing a white ball in front of you and someone coming along and saying "no, that's a blue square, idiot."

lol :D

[Avvesione]

I bought the book. (*'-')b

Tell me what proof they have that time is the 4th dimension? I didn't really buy it when they explained it on flash movie.

[GRT]

I bought the book. (*'-')b

Tell me what proof they have that time is the 4th dimension? I didn't really buy it when they explained it on flash movie.

lol, people gave it a name and assigned it a number, just like how they named a line as "1st dimension", a surface as "2nd dimension" etc, god did not come down and say "time is number 4 doods" 8)

or maybe he did? i dunno

[Tape]

There is another video that I have seen which talks about how particles picks up different characteristics just by being observed.

Without being observed the particles acted like a liquid and caused a certain outcome which puzzled the scientists. They did the test again but this time put a high speed supa zoomed in camera at the point where the characteristic would take place and the particles acting normally.

So while being watched they acted like they should in theory, but without the camera they acted totally different.

I can't find the video, but man that threw me for a loop. That shit is so interesting!

EDIT: no shit, the whole point in me telling that story is if any of you have the video post it!

[Demosthenes]

http://www.pixelcomic.net/244.shtml

http://www.pixelcomic.net/257.shtml

[Tape]

Reminds me of that "What the *bleep* do we Know?" movie that preached quantum physics and other highly theoretical sciences. It's really fascinating stuff, really. It's almost like a religious science, where you're asked merely to concieve the posibilities rather than prove them through the scientific method (as, indeed, how could you?). I'm not sure we'll ever truly find some of the answers, but there have been a lot of good stories based on string theory, Star Trek being the most well known.

pfft... thats what I was talking about too! great minds...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poWT3wo_vWw

[Bwelch]

Reminds me of that "What the *bleep* do we Know?" movie that preached quantum physics and other highly theoretical sciences. It's really fascinating stuff, really. It's almost like a religious science, where you're asked merely to concieve the posibilities rather than prove them through the scientific method (as, indeed, how could you?). I'm not sure we'll ever truly find some of the answers, but there have been a lot of good stories based on string theory, Star Trek being the most well known.

pfft... thats what I was talking about too! great minds...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poWT3wo_vWw

That was a great video! Does anybody here listen to Coast to Coast AM on the radio? George and Art usually have great programs on quantum physics.

[Avvesione]

pfft... thats what I was talking about too! great minds...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poWT3wo_vWw

We watched that in our HS physics class. And then again, after reading this thread, I watched this video again. I think that's very strange how when you begin measuring which slit they go through, their behavior changes.

[Tape]

pfft... thats what I was talking about too! great minds...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poWT3wo_vWw

We watched that in our HS physics class. And then again, after reading this thread, I watched this video again. I think that's very strange how when you begin measuring which slit they go through, their behavior changes.

Makes you think about what else is effected by this. If everything in creation is effected by observing it, then what does that mean for things not being observed. Do things only exist as they are if we look at them?

[Tarukiss]

If our reality is infinite and there’s no end to the universe then everything has happened multiple times, simultaneously and with out missing a single instant. With that said, there’s a lot of living around with no real explanation. If we can’t explain our own existence through logic then something is blocking our logic. This is why I believe the world we live in now is not real. Explaining what conscious is has yet to be explained; all we know is what it can do.

If want to jump to another reality where your grandfather didn’t die? Odds are it's out there...

... Admiting existance is basically admiting the possibility of God.

Not really, just the admission that the concept of a god exists. You could insert anything into that sentence really. "Admitting the existance is basically admitting the possibility of invisible pink unicorns." Existance of concept does not immediatly proceed the emperical existance of such a thing.

SS/M-Theory started out as an explaination for strong-interacting force of subatomic particals but had weird 'extra' objects that did not fit into observation. Later on, they took a second look at those weird objects and the calculations that described them and realized they were the same as other non-strong interacting force particals, i.e weak-electromagnetic and even gravitational. Thus the first superstring revolution was born.

[Idlepimp]

pfft... thats what I was talking about too! great minds...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poWT3wo_vWw

We watched that in our HS physics class. And then again, after reading this thread, I watched this video again. I think that's very strange how when you begin measuring which slit they go through, their behavior changes.

Makes you think about what else is effected by this. If everything in creation is effected by observing it, then what does that mean for things not being observed. Do things only exist as they are if we look at them?

If a tree falls in a forest, and no one's there to hear it, does it make a sound?

[vudoodoodoo]

The site makes me want to buy a Mac.

[RustyMetal]

String theory is one of my favorites. I really like how that flash presenteded it..

[Avvesione]

Makes you think about what else is effected by this. If everything in creation is effected by observing it, then what does that mean for things not being observed. Do things only exist as they are if we look at them?

Or makes you wonder what things out there that we can't see (or that we can't sense at all) or things like that. Stuff that's out there but things that we can't observe.