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    Ok, it wasn't directly stated, my bad.

    To Flight_93:

    The friend longheart referred to was Ragnard. I was there too. We're not just making this shit up, it was something we'd never seen before and figured people might wanna know about it incase they ever see it too. There's really only two possibilities here, and neither of them involves us lying or being "emo"

    1) RMT figured out how cassie pops, and no one else knows about it or simply isnt telling us.
    2) They have a bot that gives a really advanced warning on when something is gonna pop. Don't say it isn't possible, cuz we know how secure SE's servers are...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cephius
    Ok, it wasn't directly stated, my bad.

    To Flight_93:

    The friend longheart referred to was Ragnard. I was there too. We're not just making this shit up, it was something we'd never seen before and figured people might wanna know about it incase they ever see it too. There's really only two possibilities here, and neither of them involves us lying or being "emo"

    1) RMT figured out how cassie pops, and no one else knows about it or simply isnt telling us.
    2) They have a bot that gives a really advanced warning on when something is gonna pop. Don't say it isn't possible, cuz we know how secure SE's servers are...
    Or they have GM/admin access to the game =)

    Money can buy anything..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devek
    Or they have GM/admin access to the game =)

    Money can buy anything..
    If they have that much money, why the heck are they farming gil?

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    What was the ingame time when Cassie spawned? Perhaps it uses ingame times instead of 30minute (IRL) windows like faf?

    Honestly, if the ferry & airships use this method (set departure / arrival schedules), what is to say that some NMs don't use In game time as well?

    There's more than one way to skin a cat, or pop a mob...

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    Soooo, Cassie pop at interval if I read this thread correctly? Or is some sort of secret technique to guess when they pop?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaylia
    Soooo, Cassie pop at interval if I read this thread correctly? Or is some sort of secret technique to guess when they pop?
    You can force pop Cassie like Goblin Wolfman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rahskala
    Quote Originally Posted by Devek
    Or they have GM/admin access to the game =)

    Money can buy anything..
    If they have that much money, why the heck are they farming gil?
    Makes as much sense as the other wild speculation...

    To be honest.. i've scanned and monitored every memory address on a normal mob repop and found nothing to be indicative of the client knowing when a mob will spawn that far in advance.

    The only possibility I haven't looked into would be if there was a condition to be met on those that got filled 16min before or whatever the repop is of normal mobs in the tree.

    Anyone know a non-lottery NM that spawns in the same place everytime with like a 1-3 hour window?

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    either they've got server side access, or cassie does indeed have a spawn interval...

    I wandered into Fei`Yin and was wandering around & saw Lszjyjack & crew @ CC spawn and they'd buff up @ regular intervals (not recast for things like stoneskin etc)

    Wasn't paying any attention to the time in between casts (cept for the large delay inbetween stoneskin wearing & recast) or in game time as I was just wandering around exploring a bit after doing Shiva Prime...

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    http://www.answers.com/topic/capricious

    Quote Originally Posted by kearnsy
    So I'm bored and I go check out Cassie because I see a rival linkshellt here along with RMT there in hopes to get tod for tomorrow or something if I'm bored
    is it not obvious the OP didn't know the TOD since he even wrote it , so clearly it was the end of the window, he just didn't "know".....

    he said it wasn't the end of window but how would he know if randomly saw rival LS there and went to get TOD and didn't camp it day before

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devek
    Anyone know a non-lottery NM that spawns in the same place everytime with like a 1-3 hour window?

    Mystic Maker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shihei
    http://www.answers.com/topic/capricious

    Quote Originally Posted by kearnsy
    So I'm bored and I go check out Cassie because I see a rival linkshellt here along with RMT there in hopes to get tod for tomorrow or something if I'm bored
    is it not obvious the OP didn't know the TOD since he even wrote it , so clearly it was the end of the window, he just didn't "know".....

    he said it wasn't the end of window but how would he know if randomly saw rival LS there and went to get TOD and didn't camp it day before

    I have friends in said rival LS, one of which Ragnard who was there, and after the countdown in say when cassie popped I asked him if it was end of window or something.

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    Well, if it is possible that Cassie has intervals, start writing down some pop times in relation to it's ToD and (after the fact) list them here so we can figure it out or disprove it.

    Raineer mentioned this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Raineer
    21-24 whenever it feels, no windows unless they are totally different from fafnirs, I've seen it pop like 7 mins before 3 hours is up
    ...which either is slightly off, or proves Cassie has no intervals. If Cassie has intervals at all, she couldn't pop 7 min from the end of her 3 hour window, because 7 min from the end of a 3 hour window on a 21-24 NM is either 24*60 - 7 = 1433 minutes after ToD, or 3*60 - 7 = 173 minutes into window, depending on how you look at it. Both are prime numbers, and therefore can not be possible pop times of an intervalled NM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kearnsy
    Quote Originally Posted by Devek
    Anyone know a non-lottery NM that spawns in the same place everytime with like a 1-3 hour window?

    Mystic Maker.
    2:15

    but yeah offhand I can't think of one, will edit this post shortly when I do lol

    ...which either is slightly off, or proves Cassie has no intervals.
    For that example I know it wasn't off, I camped like 5 straight days and was anal as hell trying to decipher if there were windows. It was 7 minutes from the end of window (I was hoping for 15,10, anything). The others were just as wierd, 33 minutes into window, etc. I've watched Morbalburger pop 70 minutes into his window as well.

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    I've camped cassie many times over the course of the last couple years, and nothing I saw gave me the indication that it might have windows. I'll post what I can discount thus far...

    1) Defintly not 30 minute intervals. I have seen it pop 5 minutes into window, 10 or so minutes beforehand, and pretty much everywhere inbetween.

    2) It does not pop after weather disappears like Serket. Nothing I've seen makes me believe it's linked to weather at all.

    3) Obviously no placeholders or lottery, since there are no other marlboro type mobs in the zone.

    I honestly think if there was a trick to knowing when this would pop, someone in the NA community would know about it by now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cephius
    I honestly think if there was a trick to knowing how Goblin Wolfman would pop, someone in the NA community would know about it by now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khamsin
    Well, if it is possible that Cassie has intervals, start writing down some pop times in relation to it's ToD and (after the fact) list them here so we can figure it out or disprove it.

    Raineer mentioned this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Raineer
    21-24 whenever it feels, no windows unless they are totally different from fafnirs, I've seen it pop like 7 mins before 3 hours is up
    ...which either is slightly off, or proves Cassie has no intervals. If Cassie has intervals at all, she couldn't pop 7 min from the end of her 3 hour window, because 7 min from the end of a 3 hour window on a 21-24 NM is either 24*60 - 7 = 1433 minutes after ToD, or 3*60 - 7 = 173 minutes into window, depending on how you look at it. Both are prime numbers, and therefore can not be possible pop times of an intervalled NM.
    um... why cant prime numbers be used in determining when a mob is going to spawn?

    seems like an easy thing to do programming wise...
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    Coincidence then?

    Maybe it's a vana day/time thing! :3

    Anyway, stop bitching at kearnsy! I had tod, I camped. it was between hour 2 and hour 3 of the window, and definitely not the last 6 seconds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RanDom_ErrOr
    Quote Originally Posted by Khamsin
    Well, if it is possible that Cassie has intervals, start writing down some pop times in relation to it's ToD and (after the fact) list them here so we can figure it out or disprove it.

    Raineer mentioned this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Raineer
    21-24 whenever it feels, no windows unless they are totally different from fafnirs, I've seen it pop like 7 mins before 3 hours is up
    ...which either is slightly off, or proves Cassie has no intervals. If Cassie has intervals at all, she couldn't pop 7 min from the end of her 3 hour window, because 7 min from the end of a 3 hour window on a 21-24 NM is either 24*60 - 7 = 1433 minutes after ToD, or 3*60 - 7 = 173 minutes into window, depending on how you look at it. Both are prime numbers, and therefore can not be possible pop times of an intervalled NM.
    um... why cant prime numbers be used in determining when a mob is going to spawn?

    seems like an easy thing to do programming wise...
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    Well, sure, they could make Cassie pop on a prime number of minutes into a window if they wanted, but it still would mean Cassie has no even window intervals of a set time between each one. e.g. you can't say Cassie has a chance to pop every X minutes.

    Of course, it could also be possible that the intervals aren't in terms of minutes, either.

    Though it would be interesting if Cassie did pop specifically on prime numbers.

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    Cassie has windows, 180 of them equally spaced from 21-24 hours after it's death.

    There, now we're all happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khamsin
    Quote Originally Posted by Cephius
    I honestly think if there was a trick to knowing how Goblin Wolfman would pop, someone in the NA community would know about it by now.
    Because a NM that needs to be popped by some obscure means is the same as one that spawns every day in a 3 hour interval. Righto~

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