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  1. #661
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahngarthor
    Umm, lets see... refresh, ballads, spirit taker. net perp cost of 3 on fenrir. 941 MP with life belt. Lasts more than a few fights without resting. But, the point is moot since I only did all this a few times @ sea puks, and some leasy limbus / city dynamis aeas a few times. This isnt the norm. This is just something I tried. Something that, while obviously not impressing anyone here, turned out better than I thought it might.
    Are those numbers on darksday or other day?

    So cancelling refresh and perp cost you're getting 60 mp a minute from ballads + 100-120 mp every 2 minutes from spirit taker, and doing 100-150mp BPs every 45 seconds.

    Where does the hi-ether tank come in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahngarthor
    Quote Originally Posted by chilicheese
    obviously from all the MP he saves with NQ staves.
    From the leviathan, and the shiva, and the ifrit that I never summon?


    ROFL



    Dear god, and you're getting a relic? Fuck, at least I knew my duties before getting a relic, there needs to be an IQ test.

    So when everyone is standing there with status effects, what do you do? Sneak attack????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeryhn
    HOW IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM IS A SMN MELEEING IN AN EXP PARTY "NORMAL"?
    Chanigng the definition of normal you gave me way back there, eh?
    Read my last post for the answer to that. THIS IS NOT THE NORMAL CIRCUMSTANCE FOR ME BEING IN A PARTY. The normal circumstance is BP+dismiss and backup healing. Like any other summoner. I hope I dont have to repeat it again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russta
    Quote Originally Posted by Tahngarthor
    Quote Originally Posted by Russta
    Who invites you to their parties anyway? Summoners are a last resort in a good TP burn party anyway and if you had a relic staff and were notorious for meleeing I can safely say you'd build up an untouchable rep on my server.
    People that are having "normal" parties, not "TP burn" parties.
    But didn't you say you use hMP food in "normal" parties?
    What can we say? He's a compulsive liar.

    He already told us he doesnt know what a TP burn is, because of his "lolrdmTPburn" comment, then later on he gives us "facts" on him and his TP burn setup.

    Someone is bullshitting! All signs point to the stinky blue galka.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lordwafik
    Quote Originally Posted by Tahngarthor
    Quote Originally Posted by chilicheese
    obviously from all the MP he saves with NQ staves.
    From the leviathan, and the shiva, and the ifrit that I never summon?


    ROFL



    Dear god, and you're getting a relic? Fuck, at least I knew my duties before getting a relic, there needs to be an IQ test.

    So when everyone is standing there with status effects, what do you do? Sneak attack????
    What's so rofl about this? Why use Leviathan when you can use Garuda? If you have avatar physical accuracy merits, which you apparently dont, Predator Claws > Spinning Dive. And with Dive, you either hit or you miss- With PClaws, you either hit for a lot of damage or you hit for a little. Loads better than missing completely, IMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahngarthor
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeryhn
    HOW IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM IS A SMN MELEEING IN AN EXP PARTY "NORMAL"?
    Chanigng the definition of normal you gave me way back there, eh?
    Read my last post for the answer to that. THIS IS NOT THE NORMAL CIRCUMSTANCE FOR ME BEING IN A PARTY. The normal circumstance is BP+dismiss and backup healing. Like any other summoner. I hope I dont have to repeat it again.
    You just said before your ninjaedit at the time of the page that people invite you to melee as SMN in a "normal party, not a TP Burn party".

    God, just fucking own up to it. It's not like you have any face to save here in all places.

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    And Whispering Wind > Spring Water?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahngarthor
    Quote Originally Posted by Lordwafik
    Quote Originally Posted by Tahngarthor
    Quote Originally Posted by chilicheese
    obviously from all the MP he saves with NQ staves.
    From the leviathan, and the shiva, and the ifrit that I never summon?


    ROFL



    Dear god, and you're getting a relic? Fuck, at least I knew my duties before getting a relic, there needs to be an IQ test.

    So when everyone is standing there with status effects, what do you do? Sneak attack????
    What's so rofl about this? Why use Leviathan when you can use Garuda? If you have avatar physical accuracy merits, which you apparently dont, Predator Claws > Spinning Dive.

    Dear god, he's like, oblivious to logic.

  9. #669
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    Quote Originally Posted by Russta
    Quote Originally Posted by Tahngarthor
    Quote Originally Posted by Russta
    Who invites you to their parties anyway? Summoners are a last resort in a good TP burn party anyway and if you had a relic staff and were notorious for meleeing I can safely say you'd build up an untouchable rep on my server.
    People that are having "normal" parties, not "TP burn" parties.
    But didn't you say you use hMP food in "normal" parties?
    I really liked the guy but I had to do it...

    http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/5314/smnmelee4hj.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lordwafik
    Quote Originally Posted by Russta
    Quote Originally Posted by Tahngarthor
    Quote Originally Posted by Russta
    Who invites you to their parties anyway? Summoners are a last resort in a good TP burn party anyway and if you had a relic staff and were notorious for meleeing I can safely say you'd build up an untouchable rep on my server.
    People that are having "normal" parties, not "TP burn" parties.
    But didn't you say you use hMP food in "normal" parties?
    What can we say? He's a compulsive liar.

    He already told us he doesnt know what a TP burn is, because of his "lolrdmTPburn" comment, then later on he gives us "facts" on him and his TP burn setup.

    Someone is bullshitting! All signs point to the stinky blue galka.
    I've not even really been following this topic but I read the last few pages while trying to keep my eyes open after 50 hours of Absolute Virtue and was astounded at the stupidity eminating from one person. Everything he's said is full of inconsistences and arguments that can be instantly dismissed with some math (which Aurik is a master at!) yet he does nothing but evade these points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XxSlusherxx
    Quote Originally Posted by Russta
    Quote Originally Posted by Tahngarthor
    Quote Originally Posted by Russta
    Who invites you to their parties anyway? Summoners are a last resort in a good TP burn party anyway and if you had a relic staff and were notorious for meleeing I can safely say you'd build up an untouchable rep on my server.
    People that are having "normal" parties, not "TP burn" parties.
    But didn't you say you use hMP food in "normal" parties?
    I really liked the guy but I had to do it...

    http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/5314/smnmelee4hj.jpg
    rofl, yeah man, I thought that when he posted it. If a Summoner popped a sushi and started meleeing a mob with an AoE stun+damage tP move with a fucking Mercurial Pole... well he wouldn't be in my party very long.

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    Even I wouldnt do that- for one fight I tried to swing at one and it was wiff wiff wiff wiff. {No Thanks.}

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    Quote Originally Posted by elphaba
    Because oh you know, certain types of mobs ARE RESISTANT TO PREDATOR CLAWS.

    FFS.

    Go get your staff, but I'll be a bit blunt and say you're an idiot.
    In those cases, I'll suffer for the extra 6-8 MP i'll lose in those casese where I REALLY need to use SD. OH NOES! Oh, and just for fun, since it's so popular with you guys LAWL FAIL ROFL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahngarthor
    Quote Originally Posted by elphaba
    Because oh you know, certain types of mobs ARE RESISTANT TO PREDATOR CLAWS.

    FFS.

    Go get your staff, but I'll be a bit blunt and say you're an idiot.
    In those cases, I'll suffer for the extra 6-8 MP i'll lose in those casese where I REALLY need to use SD. OH NOES!
    Costs more than that. Especially considering your refusal to change staves.
    Considering you probably dont know levi cures stat effects either.
    Considering you probably dont even know that some mobs are weak/strong to peircing/slashing/blunt.

    You have no hope.

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    True story: SMN I partied with in meripo thought that Spring Water only cured petrification.

    Alas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lordwafik
    Quote Originally Posted by Tahngarthor
    Quote Originally Posted by elphaba
    Because oh you know, certain types of mobs ARE RESISTANT TO PREDATOR CLAWS.

    FFS.

    Go get your staff, but I'll be a bit blunt and say you're an idiot.
    In those cases, I'll suffer for the extra 6-8 MP i'll lose in those casese where I REALLY need to use SD. OH NOES!
    Costs more than that. Especially considering your refusal to change staves.
    Considering you probably dont know levi cures stat effects either.
    Considering you probably dont even know that some mobs are weak/strong to peircing/slashing/blunt.

    You have no hope.
    When did I refuse to change staves? There you go making stuff up again.
    Considering I do know mobs are weak/strong to peircing/slashing/blunt and have to deal witth it all the time, and I do know levi cures status effects but the only one I dont have a -na for is petrify, it isnt needed that much.

    Quit making stuff up when you post.

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  17. #677
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahngarthor
    Quote Originally Posted by Lordwafik
    Quote Originally Posted by Tahngarthor
    Quote Originally Posted by elphaba
    Because oh you know, certain types of mobs ARE RESISTANT TO PREDATOR CLAWS.

    FFS.

    Go get your staff, but I'll be a bit blunt and say you're an idiot.
    In those cases, I'll suffer for the extra 6-8 MP i'll lose in those casese where I REALLY need to use SD. OH NOES!
    Costs more than that. Especially considering your refusal to change staves.
    Considering you probably dont know levi cures stat effects either.
    Considering you probably dont even know that some mobs are weak/strong to peircing/slashing/blunt.

    You have no hope.
    When did I refuse to change staves? There you go making stuff up again.
    Didn't you say you didn't change staves because of the TP loss? I distinctly remember you saying that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahngarthor
    Quote Originally Posted by Lordwafik
    Quote Originally Posted by Tahngarthor
    Quote Originally Posted by elphaba
    Because oh you know, certain types of mobs ARE RESISTANT TO PREDATOR CLAWS.

    FFS.

    Go get your staff, but I'll be a bit blunt and say you're an idiot.
    In those cases, I'll suffer for the extra 6-8 MP i'll lose in those casese where I REALLY need to use SD. OH NOES!
    Costs more than that. Especially considering your refusal to change staves.
    Considering you probably dont know levi cures stat effects either.
    Considering you probably dont even know that some mobs are weak/strong to peircing/slashing/blunt.

    You have no hope.
    When did I refuse to change staves? There you go making stuff up again.
    Making stuff up? Um no. Didnt you say in an earlier post, that you aknowledge the fact you cant change staves due to TP loss, and you even stated "I'm not that dumb" ? ? ? ? ?

    So the story has changed? You went from not swapping staves, to now swapping staves?


    and I do know levi cures status effects but the only one I dont have a -na for is petrify, it isnt needed that much.
    How can you cure stat effects as /thf ?

    Goodness! This is like a choose your own adventure book, except all pages lead to dumb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    Quote Originally Posted by Tahngarthor
    Quote Originally Posted by Lordwafik
    Quote Originally Posted by Tahngarthor
    Quote Originally Posted by elphaba
    Because oh you know, certain types of mobs ARE RESISTANT TO PREDATOR CLAWS.

    FFS.

    Go get your staff, but I'll be a bit blunt and say you're an idiot.
    In those cases, I'll suffer for the extra 6-8 MP i'll lose in those casese where I REALLY need to use SD. OH NOES!
    Costs more than that. Especially considering your refusal to change staves.
    Considering you probably dont know levi cures stat effects either.
    Considering you probably dont even know that some mobs are weak/strong to peircing/slashing/blunt.

    You have no hope.
    When did I refuse to change staves? There you go making stuff up again.
    Didn't you say you didn't change staves because of the TP loss? I distinctly remember you saying that.
    NOT IN A --NORMAL-- EXP PARTY. I.E. THE ONE WHERE SMNS CURE AND SUMMON AND DISMISS AND STUFF. These would be th e parties I do the vast vast majority of the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahngarthor
    Quote Originally Posted by Lordwafik
    Quote Originally Posted by Tahngarthor
    Quote Originally Posted by elphaba
    Because oh you know, certain types of mobs ARE RESISTANT TO PREDATOR CLAWS.

    FFS.

    Go get your staff, but I'll be a bit blunt and say you're an idiot.
    In those cases, I'll suffer for the extra 6-8 MP i'll lose in those casese where I REALLY need to use SD. OH NOES!
    Costs more than that. Especially considering your refusal to change staves.
    Considering you probably dont know levi cures stat effects either.
    Considering you probably dont even know that some mobs are weak/strong to peircing/slashing/blunt.

    You have no hope.
    When did I refuse to change staves? There you go making stuff up again.
    Considering I do know mobs are weak/strong to peircing/slashing/blunt and have to deal witth it all the time, and I do know levi cures status effects but the only one I dont have a -na for is petrify, it isnt needed that much.

    Quit making stuff up when you post.

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    I've had these macros for years.
    And yet somehow, your MP stays high with SA Spirit Taker?

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