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    Quote Originally Posted by Norelco
    I think the thing that actually bothers me the most is how these middle-eastern countries get their children involved in holding up signs of terrorists and dancing in the streets when they capture/kill an opposing country's soldier.

    I remember when 9/11 happened and they showed the reaction of people in the middle east...they were fucking dancing in the street like they won the lottery or something.
    Norelco, you mentioning this only proves the tight grip of the U.S. media on how they want americans to see the world, and how effective they are at it. Columbine? I'm Middle-eastern myself, Iranian to be exact, and I'm gonna go ahead and tell you how fucked up it is that in America, numerous instances of guns AT SCHOOL and killings AT SCHOOL have occurred. You guys are savages, honestly. Don't let me get on the subject of rape.

    Is that fair to make such broad generalizations? My main point is, you're only looking at this from one screen.

    I also am of the same belief that war is horrible, and am completely against it, but because me saying "War is bad mmk?" won't solve anything (it seems), I prefer to be vocal about my opinions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Groovebox
    USA needs to get out because its pretty sad that US soldiers are dying to save these retards.
    What makes so many americans have this opinion? Do you not see how ridiculously selfish of a thing it is you're saying? What about the thousands of people in the region losing their lives to the hands of U.S. soldiers?

    Groove, picture yourself as a "retard" Iraqi, who's country has been occupied now for 2 years under the pretense of liberation. And don't worry, you won't have to try hard, you're already fucking retarded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lordwafik
    I really really really really </3 war.

    It's silly, stupid, and pointless. Both of the countries should grow up and get over it. Trade the prisoners and who gives a fuck who started it first.

    So long as one says "blahkhenenhlkhahn" and the other says "Aghgehgnhengh" there'll never be peace in that zone me thinks.
    As shitty as war is its one of the most important parts of history. It's pretty much impossible to imagine a world without war. It goes way beyond 'there would be no America' it would be back to the ancient greeks and even earlier then that. War also brings in HUGE ammounts of money, and also sends out alot.

    I see your point and agree. I kinda get annoyed when you see people in Washington D.C. stating they are 'anti-war' as opposed to all those people who LOVE war and LOVE death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Setsuko
    miss lebonon is pretty hot
    Obviously you never paid attention to their revolution last year

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    Quote Originally Posted by Setsuko
    miss lebonon is pretty hot
    i think it's pretty hot that you think she's hot :wink:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norelco
    Also said to be owned by the leader of Dubai....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Setsuko
    miss lebonon is pretty hot
    Yep and Miss Isreal is further proof that there are no hot Jews.

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    Hiroshima and Nagasaki were targetted for their Military Operations/Factories/etc. The civilians were never the direct target. Normal Bombings did more total damage and killed more than the Atom Bombs did. War is terrible, and it is always wrong, but I believe that is was even more wrong to use those two bombs.

    Anyways, most Americans don't understand why U.S. Troops are in the Middle East, and Iraq. Obviously Iraq having 'Weapons of Mass Destruction' (I hate that phrase) was a lie, or false intelligence or whatever, and I really hate to think that U.S. Troops were sent there because of the interest in Oil. Disregarding the Phillipines, Hawaii, and some involvement in Central America (Indian Conflicts too maybe?), I have never viewed America as an Imperialist Nation. America never took land from defeated Nations and made it their own, they never forced defeated Nations to pay War Damages or anything like that.

    Most Americans don't view invading Iraq as the Right thing to have done. Bush's accusations against Iraq back in 2002-2003 seemed to come out of nowhere. I was a sophomore in High School, I never payed much attention to Foreign affairs, then all of a sudden America was invading Iraq. I remember the year before, I was about to head off to school, early in the morning, and I remember seeing on the news that two Airplanes had crashed into the Twin Towers in New York or something, I had just thought that it was a normal plane crash and didn't think anything of it. When I got to school, my P.E. Teacher had turned on the News, he had probably lived through Pearl Harbor and World War II as a child, and he told us that America would be going to war soon. Invading Iraq has always just seemed so random to me, I don't want to think that America's leaders would throw away human lives for Oil, that doesn't make any sense to me.

    When I was a senior in High School, my U.S. History teacher told us that she believed that Bush ordered the Invasion of Iraq to take Hussein out of Power as a sort of revenge for Hussein trying to Assassinate George H. Bush or something like that. I just can't see that as a possibility.

    I know that alot of people hate America, but I like to think that the people our Media shows with their hateful banners, burning American Flags, beating burnt Corpses of fallen American soldiers are only an extreme Minority of the people in the region. Just like U.S. Soldiers who do terrible things are only a minority of the U.S. forces, but they are put in the spotlight for their actions, and that is how people view the U.S. because of that.

    I had read an article about Iran awhile ago, about the government wanting to force a National Dress code based upon a person's religion. Muslums would have a certain dress code, and non-muslums would have their own. Christians, Jews, and other non-muslums would have to wear badges indicating their religion in addition to their dress code, so that Muslums would know who were the non-muslums. The idea sounded very much like what the Nazis did in Germany.

    And, I wrote too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heian
    Quote Originally Posted by Setsuko
    miss lebonon is pretty hot
    Yep and Miss Isreal is further proof that there are no hot Jews.
    hahaha i thought she looked out of place. didnt know if it was just me who thought so

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    Quote Originally Posted by Setsuko
    Quote Originally Posted by Heian
    Quote Originally Posted by Setsuko
    miss lebonon is pretty hot
    Yep and Miss Isreal is further proof that there are no hot Jews.
    hahaha i thought she looked out of place. didnt know if it was just me who thought so
    Oh my god you have MSI as your avatar. You sir, rock. Have you seen them live? Amazing show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norelco
    Quote Originally Posted by Setsuko
    Quote Originally Posted by Heian
    Quote Originally Posted by Setsuko
    miss lebonon is pretty hot
    Yep and Miss Isreal is further proof that there are no hot Jews.
    hahaha i thought she looked out of place. didnt know if it was just me who thought so
    Oh my god you have MSI as your avatar. You sir, rock. Have you seen them live? Amazing show.
    I'm not a sir. I have boobs. Oh and nice noticing who that is :D

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    I love how isreal can do what every the hell it wants

    Yet places like iran are geting thretend with war over a weapon that they wouldnt even beable to use for years, while places like north korea arnt stoped, its not a matter of right and wrong anymore its just political agenda

    "Freedom" seems to be defined nowdays to what ever is conveniant to a nations politicans not whats actuly right and fair

    And we as the voting public vote these morons in to power, we should be really really ashamed ;(

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    I love how isreal can do what every the hell it wants
    So if some Mexican druglords took potshots into Texas with rocket grenades, came in and killed a few soldiers and took a hostage because, you know, Texas really used to be a part of Mexico and it should be given back to Mexicans, that the U.S. military wouldn't have a right to do anything about it? Give me a break.

    Yet places like iran are geting thretend with war over a weapon that they wouldnt even beable to use for years, while places like north korea arnt stoped, its not a matter of right and wrong anymore its just political agenda
    The reason Iran wanting a nuclear weapon is such a big deal is because their president openly says he wants to destroy Israel, and since their religious leaders have so much control over groups that are willing to blow themselves up, it'll be a problem if those groups have access to something like a dirty bomb.

    The reason why the U.S. can't just destroy those long-range missiles in North Korea when they're on the launch site is because their leader has the mentality of a 5 year old, needs to be coddled, and even though his country is dirt poor, he's got enough short-range missiles and military size to basically fuck up South Korea if he gets pissed off. Not to mention China and Russia don't want us moving into their backyards so they're willing to basically do nothing as long as North Korea doesn't go too far over the line.

    People always whine about the U.S. doing things unilaterally, and then when the U.S. tries to get other nations to help stop countries from doing shit, Russia or China always blocks anything that would actually do something about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Setsuko
    Quote Originally Posted by Norelco
    Quote Originally Posted by Setsuko
    Quote Originally Posted by Heian
    Quote Originally Posted by Setsuko
    miss lebonon is pretty hot
    Yep and Miss Isreal is further proof that there are no hot Jews.
    hahaha i thought she looked out of place. didnt know if it was just me who thought so
    Oh my god you have MSI as your avatar. You sir, rock. Have you seen them live? Amazing show.
    I'm not a sir. I have boobs. Oh and nice noticing who that is :D
    I know a few guys with boobs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raineh
    I love how isreal can do what every the hell it wants

    Yet places like iran are geting thretend with war over a weapon that they wouldnt even beable to use for years, while places like north korea arnt stoped, its not a matter of right and wrong anymore its just political agenda

    "Freedom" seems to be defined nowdays to what ever is conveniant to a nations politicans not whats actuly right and fair

    And we as the voting public vote these morons in to power, we should be really really ashamed ;(
    North Korea's few allies include China. Provoking them into war would be a poor choice.

    Isreal gets mollycoddled by Washington to be certain but the larger problem is that nobody over there in the middle east is listening to the side of peace anymore. Moderates and pro-peace rallies don't make good headlines so they're never covered. Pretty sure the overwhelming majority of the Lebanese and Israelites dont like war and bloodshed, they just get thrown into it by assholes with rockets and machineguns and just as much a selfish political agenda as the assholes in Washington turning a blind eye to human rights abuses whenever convenient to them.

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    I guess the Jews are regretting starting the terrorist train nowadays.

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    A few years ago, I did visit lebanon after the war was over.

    You know all the screenshots of the ladies weilding 2 guns? Or the bunch of people who have nothing better to do with their time aside from burn USA flags? Those people are considered as lebanon's trailor trash.

    So what the media shows lebanon as, it's showing you the hicks and poor uneducated people saying what they want. Imagine this equivelant, Imagine all the arabian TV news stations suddenly show america's trailor trash/hicks/KKK and then say "That's what USA thinks of you lot".

    Lebanon is more of a medeterranian country from when I visited, along the lines of italy/greece/cyprus, they have some nice things , people with real views/thoughts/opinions on society and culture, etc, that never get shown obviously, due to the fact they don't make good headlines.
    I didn't see any of those terrorists running the streets, or people in vans with guns The only time I did see guys with guns was when we had to travel between united nations Checkpoints.

    Hicks weilding guns sayung BURN AMERICANZ = good headlines. Country recovered after a war = no good headlines.

    Side note : Miss Egypt + Miss Mauritius + Miss lebanon yzprz

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    All the Hot Lebanese Chicks =(

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    I think Zambia is the hottest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maguspk
    I think Zambia is the hottest.
    LEBANON

    then again what do i know. i'm not a guy nor am i gay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raineh
    I love how isreal can do what every the hell it wants

    Yet places like iran are geting thretend with war over a weapon that they wouldnt even beable to use for years, while places like north korea arnt stoped, its not a matter of right and wrong anymore its just political agenda

    "Freedom" seems to be defined nowdays to what ever is conveniant to a nations politicans not whats actuly right and fair

    And we as the voting public vote these morons in to power, we should be really really ashamed ;(
    Are you kidding me?

    Israel pulled out of the Gaza region MONTHS ago - that's what all the terrorists always said they wanted. Israel has a long history of going against their "do not negotiate with terrorists" policy and doing things like prisoner exchanges etc; So here you have the Israeli's working for peace and trying to do the right thing, but guess what? Their enemies now see that they are pushovers who will fold under force. So they push harder, trying to extort the Israeli's even more.

    Israel is just doing what it should; not taking shit from terrorists who want to push it around. The Israeli's shouldn't be ashamed for anything they are doing at the moment, nor should their people for voting their current leadership into office. Maybe the Lebonese and Iranians should be the ones ashamed for voting terrorists and their sympathizers into office? Did that cross your mind? Too bad they won't, because they HATE Israel. These prejudices run deep, do not be mistaken.

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