Full Yigit Set Effects

[Suiram]

Nobody giving a damn is the fault of the players, not the zone or its design. Dynamis - Tav is by far the most interesting and fun Dynamis zone in the game in my opinion. I know for a fact that you've never even been, so where do you get off complaining about it?w

[BRP]

Let me repeat myself. Refresh is 4 hMP, borderline 5, not 3 hMP.

Yigit however, doesn't have a lot of +MP. I rather heal to max in an nearly as effective hMP set. Yigit is a hybrid set for someone with multiple mage jobs. If you play it smart, it might actually save space. If you have BRD/BLM/RDM leveled and only give a shit about one of them, put Yigit on a mannequin and you got pace. If you have multiple jobs leveled, but no mannequin, you are poor excuse of an end-gamer. Go do three BCNM20s and buy two pieces or do some garrsion, or buy all 5 if you RMT.

[aurik]

If CoP dynamis wasn't on the same lockout timer as regular dynamis I'm sure we'd have a lot more people trying it out. As is, buggy/gimicky 1hr zones that drop less of the same stuff don't really excite many people...especially when they still need stuff from xarc/bcd.

[Quicklet]

Let me repeat myself. Refresh is 4 hMP, borderline 5, not 3 hMP.

1MP/3sec (.33MP/sec) vs 3HMP/10sec (.30MP/sec)

So... unless I'm missing something, I don't see how that's closer to 4 than 3, not counting the initial rest period obviously which is longer.

[Delekii]

Nobody giving a damn is the fault of the players, not the zone or its design. Dynamis - Tav is by far the most interesting and fun Dynamis zone in the game in my opinion. I know for a fact that you've never even been, so where do you get off complaining about it?w

Ive never been to many places, nor do I stand by the fact that you need to experience something first hand to know that its just more dynamis, with more work, less time, and less reward. I realise that some people enjoy it, but I also know that many people dont. Fun and interesting are two words that dont go with Dynamis-anything, for me.

[aurik]

Let me repeat myself. Refresh is 4 hMP, borderline 5, not 3 hMP.

1MP/3sec (.33MP/sec) vs 3HMP/10sec (.30MP/sec)

So... unless I'm missing something, I don't see how that's closer to 4 than 3, not counting the initial rest period obviously which is longer.

For short rests (most resting is short) refresh is much better than 3 hmp because of the initial resting period.

That said, you guys do realize you can macro the hmp items an instant before the tick and get full benefit and then switch back in refresh, right?

[Lordwafik]

I dont know of any asurans with Tav access. Hell, my LS is the only LS on asura that's beaten Valk that I know of,that's kinda sad. zion's came close but the repops killed them last week mid CC. Then again, even if we have Tav access it'll be kinda hard only letting 18 people in one zone, when we usually only get 35 for the cities. I've farmed jeuno with 8 people before (and popped all time ext), was fun, but it's not the same What i'd like to do is have 2 alliences of people ready for tav , but if we do that and do Tav > tav, the timers for 18 people will become fucked up. Lose/Lose situation.

However, I would like to farm Dyna-Tav for some of that smashing Hydra gear, more for the rarity than usefulness

[BRP]

That said, you guys do realize you can macro the hmp items an instant before the tick and get full benefit and then switch back in refresh, right?

I love doing this, but is such a pain.

[Suiram]

Fun and interesting are two words that dont go with Dynamis-anything, for me.

That's my point about Dynamis - Tavnazia. It's not like other Dynamis, if anything it's more like a Limbus that drops Dynamis items. As for your other point about Time/Reward from your post and what Aurik wrote, it's better I think, to look at each zone as fulfilling certain needs. Flashforward in time a while to where a LS has all the zones (old and CoP cleared) and everyone knows the strats to where they're all presumed wins, and you're just going there to farm.

Cities: Currency, there's no better place for it.
Northlands: Previously the only place you could get the better pieces of AF2 for most jobs.
Bubu/Qufim/Valk: Farming capes and belts (and getting whatever -1 pieces happen to drop in the process)
Tav: Now here's the thing about Tav. Nobody has ever farmed it to its fullest extent. There are 2 additional ???s that give 30min each, that it's still unclear how to pop. So right now, instead of having an hour and 45 min to farm (after the roughly 15 min it takes to unlock subjobs) you are farming for 45 min, and usually groups (at least ours) waste most of that time trying to get to diabolos without aggroing more than one. I feel pretty confident that once the pulls are well-mapped, and the method for popping the ???s fully understood, sending 2 groups of 18 people to farm Northlands AF should yield as much or more AF than sending 36 to one of the origional zones, were you to spend the entire time farming after subjobs (not to mention that the origional zones tend to be occupied by other groups on most servers half the time). Since that Hydra gear drops from Taurus that you have to kill if you are farming Xarc AF, you'll be getting those periodically in the process as well.

[aurik]

That said, you guys do realize you can macro the hmp items an instant before the tick and get full benefit and then switch back in refresh, right?

I love doing this, but is such a pain.

So is getting Hydra items...

[DrObvious]

Nobody giving a damn is the fault of the players, not the zone or its design. Dynamis - Tav is by far the most interesting and fun Dynamis zone in the game in my opinion. I know for a fact that you've never even been, so where do you get off complaining about it?w

If it was better designed then more people would care about it.

[Ksandra]

On a side note the individual pieces are nice. The hands are awesome for rdms, especially non-humes. And the body is a very nice alternative to the 30 mil brd jse.

Hands are decent if you don't do gear swaps, but they don't have MP and there are alternatives with better mgc attack and mnd.

I'm not a big fan of magic attack on rdm, since I have never seen it make a difference on my enfeebles, (feel free to prove me wrong but I've seen no tests on it). I don't ever nuke on hnms, so mab would only be good if I was soloing /grav/kite/nuke situations.

I did actually get these for the fact I didn't have to switch out the hand slot. Way I set up my macros is I put all my gear swaps into the spell itself (don't fight it, it's how I like to play my job). Obviously, because of this I can't switch out every slot. Getting yigit hands meant I could now switch out errant feet and wise feet.

Lack of mp on them rather sucks though. But that's what mp merits are for (b'')b

[ps2user]

I dont know of any asurans with Tav access. Hell, my LS is the only LS on asura that's beaten Valk that I know of,that's kinda sad. zion's came close but the repops killed them last week mid CC. Then again, even if we have Tav access it'll be kinda hard only letting 18 people in one zone, when we usually only get 35 for the cities. I've farmed jeuno with 8 people before (and popped all time ext), was fun, but it's not the same What i'd like to do is have 2 alliences of people ready for tav , but if we do that and do Tav > tav, the timers for 18 people will become fucked up. Lose/Lose situation.

However, I would like to farm Dyna-Tav for some of that smashing Hydra gear, more for the rarity than usefulness

i heard zion's dynamis ls beat valkurm with only 18 people.

[Delekii]

On a side note the individual pieces are nice. The hands are awesome for rdms, especially non-humes. And the body is a very nice alternative to the 30 mil brd jse.

Hands are decent if you don't do gear swaps, but they don't have MP and there are alternatives with better mgc attack and mnd.

I'm not a big fan of magic attack on rdm, since I have never seen it make a difference on my enfeebles, (feel free to prove me wrong but I've seen no tests on it). I don't ever nuke on hnms, so mab would only be good if I was soloing /grav/kite/nuke situations.

I did actually get these for the fact I didn't have to switch out the hand slot. Way I set up my macros is I put all my gear swaps into the spell itself (don't fight it, it's how I like to play my job). Obviously, because of this I can't switch out every slot. Getting yigit hands meant I could now switch out errant feet and wise feet.

Lack of mp on them rather sucks though. But that's what mp merits are for (b'')b

I think he meant more m.atk (for nukes, zenith) and mind (for enfeebles, devotees mitts +1 or whatever rdms use)

[Siatdiat]

I dont know of any asurans with Tav access. Hell, my LS is the only LS on asura that's beaten Valk that I know of,that's kinda sad. zion's came close but the repops killed them last week mid CC. Then again, even if we have Tav access it'll be kinda hard only letting 18 people in one zone, when we usually only get 35 for the cities. I've farmed jeuno with 8 people before (and popped all time ext), was fun, but it's not the same What i'd like to do is have 2 alliences of people ready for tav , but if we do that and do Tav > tav, the timers for 18 people will become fucked up. Lose/Lose situation.

However, I would like to farm Dyna-Tav for some of that smashing Hydra gear, more for the rarity than usefulness

i heard zion's dynamis ls beat valkurm with only 28 people.

lol?

[Ksandra]

On a side note the individual pieces are nice. The hands are awesome for rdms, especially non-humes. And the body is a very nice alternative to the 30 mil brd jse.

Hands are decent if you don't do gear swaps, but they don't have MP and there are alternatives with better mgc attack and mnd.

I'm not a big fan of magic attack on rdm, since I have never seen it make a difference on my enfeebles, (feel free to prove me wrong but I've seen no tests on it). I don't ever nuke on hnms, so mab would only be good if I was soloing /grav/kite/nuke situations.

I did actually get these for the fact I didn't have to switch out the hand slot. Way I set up my macros is I put all my gear swaps into the spell itself (don't fight it, it's how I like to play my job). Obviously, because of this I can't switch out every slot. Getting yigit hands meant I could now switch out errant feet and wise feet.

Lack of mp on them rather sucks though. But that's what mp merits are for (b'')b

I think he meant more m.atk (for nukes, zenith) and mind (for enfeebles, devotees mitts +1 or whatever rdms use)

Ya I never mb/nuke though which is why MAB is useless for me. My ls tends to have 1-2 whms at camps if that (one is dual boxed), so my extra mp (after refresh/haste/enfeeble/etc) is used on curing rather than mbing.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

Yin commands you to do no CoP dynamis

[Lordwafik]

I dont know of any asurans with Tav access. Hell, my LS is the only LS on asura that's beaten Valk that I know of,that's kinda sad. zion's came close but the repops killed them last week mid CC. Then again, even if we have Tav access it'll be kinda hard only letting 18 people in one zone, when we usually only get 35 for the cities. I've farmed jeuno with 8 people before (and popped all time ext), was fun, but it's not the same What i'd like to do is have 2 alliences of people ready for tav , but if we do that and do Tav > tav, the timers for 18 people will become fucked up. Lose/Lose situation.

However, I would like to farm Dyna-Tav for some of that smashing Hydra gear, more for the rarity than usefulness

i heard zion's dynamis ls beat valkurm with only 18 people.

Oh noes he follows my posts around ((*A*))

No. I am in Zion's limbus LS, and they got our LS (Manaburn) to get their fragment because they cant kill animated weapons. They spoke to me and told me how they kept wiping to CC, and how they havent killed DL yet.

What else ya got?

[ps2user]

I dont know of any asurans with Tav access. Hell, my LS is the only LS on asura that's beaten Valk that I know of,that's kinda sad. zion's came close but the repops killed them last week mid CC. Then again, even if we have Tav access it'll be kinda hard only letting 18 people in one zone, when we usually only get 35 for the cities. I've farmed jeuno with 8 people before (and popped all time ext), was fun, but it's not the same What i'd like to do is have 2 alliences of people ready for tav , but if we do that and do Tav > tav, the timers for 18 people will become fucked up. Lose/Lose situation.

However, I would like to farm Dyna-Tav for some of that smashing Hydra gear, more for the rarity than usefulness

i heard zion's dynamis ls beat valkurm with only 18 people.

Oh noes he follows my posts around ((*A*))

No. I am in Zion's limbus LS, and they got our LS (Manaburn) to get their fragment because they cant even kill animated weapons. They spoke to me and told me how they keep wiping to CC, and how they havent killed DL yet.

What else ya got?

nothing, they did beat valkurm with 18people though.

[Lordwafik]

Proof please, pics of their titles or point me to who you saw the title on. I'll ask them tomorrow when I log in.