On this day one year ago, Ranger was nerfed.

[Priran]

ya me 2 lol

fixed

[DrObvious]

Even though this is an exp party screeny....it clearly shows ranger isn't weak. Puk are weak, but 2k+ damage to them is a lot.Suck it up. god damnit.

Hey guess what, other jobs can make collages of high damage weaponskills too, that doesn't really say anything other than rng can put up numbers on exp mobs. The real nerf was on hnms, not exp.

[Koyangi]

2 NA RNG on our server that are sick dmg dealing mofos, are Clivant and Dizzzy.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

Even though this is an exp party screeny....it clearly shows ranger isn't weak. Puk are weak, but 2k+ damage to them is a lot.Suck it up. god damnit.

Hey guess what, other jobs can make collages of high damage weaponskills too, that doesn't really say anything other than rng can put up numbers on exp mobs. The real nerf was on hnms, not exp.

They're still pretty damn good on HNM. Cerberus anyone?

BTW fuck you epical. My sig is 100x better when you know people arent getting it.

[Epical]

I can feel the love.

[Excalin Garisk]

Even though this is an exp party screeny....it clearly shows ranger isn't weak. Puk are weak, but 2k+ damage to them is a lot.Suck it up. god damnit.

Hey guess what, other jobs can make collages of high damage weaponskills too, that doesn't really say anything other than rng can put up numbers on exp mobs. The real nerf was on hnms, not exp.

They're still pretty damn good on HNM. Cerberus anyone?

BTW fuck you epical. My sig is 100x better when you know people arent getting it.

Looks like the people the TNMT were named for...but that could just be me

[Falaras]

Those 2.4k-ish slugs on Puks are pretty normal for rng too, not like the zomg ruke pwns all thing. I know with a acid bolt some people have done over 3.3k, that also requires Ebow and such too.
(whoever said Kclub/ridill suck for rng now need to go die btw)

[RKenshin]

Those 2.4k-ish slugs on Puks are pretty normal for rng too, not like the zomg ruke pwns all thing. I know with a acid bolt some people have done over 3.3k, that also requires Ebow and such too.
(whoever said Kclub/ridill suck for rng now need to go die btw)

Believe me I'm not trying to say at all that I'm exceptional in any way, I think my reputation as a RNG is just making a lot of people refer to me.^^;

But yeah, I'm not the best a RNG could be, and people with acid bolts+SV+better equip have pulled out much more damage than I have. I've stayed away from combat merits, and that alone sets me back pretty far.

IMO RNG is still a heavy DD though if you put the time/money/merits into it, although I'm pretty sure most of the RNG population doesn't. It's like almost all the people with the motivation to put a lot of time/money/merits into a job level either BLM, MNK, or WAR now.

How is that different from any other job ??

any job can be powerful with time money and merits.

Of course, the point was that RNG can be on par with/surpass other DDs, as you just said. Any job can do it, but RNG earned a reputation with the nerf as not being capable of that anymore (lolrng, gimp job comments, etc), and my post was just trying to say that they still can.

That, and lately a lot of people seem to be making the job look bad... Kind of like how a lot of people make DRK look bad as a DD and as a result people think it sucks, yet a really good DRK can be a great DD.

[Falaras]

I'm not saying your rng is bad. It blows mine out of the water and those 2k's on mamools are hot. I have broke 2.4k on puks but never done over 1.7k on mamools. You should try to play with that Kclub on your rng too.
(update your LJ btw <.< it rocks)

[Epical]

not like the zomg ruke pwns all thing

...And that's where you're wrong.

[Squallblade]

yet a really good DRK can be a great DD.

I love you

[Ryko]

yet a really good DRK can be a great DD.

I love you

It's bullshit >|

[Faranim]

yet a really good DRK can be a great DD if they have the right gear, merits, and playstyle.

I love you

fixed.

[Tyrath]

yet a really good DRK can be a great DD if they have the right gear, merits, and playstyle.

I love you

fixed.

You'd think being a "really good" drk would go hand in hand with having the right gear, merits, and playstyle

[Faranim]

I would consider myself a good DRK, even though my gear is far from ideal.

Honestly the whole job-elitism thing is overexaggerated. Every job can deal crazy damage in EXP parties if they want to because EXP mobs are stupidly weak. The only real difference is how "easy" it is.

RNG was incredibly popular because you could be level 75 wearing gear entirely from the AH (none of which was expensive, compared to melee gear like Haubergeon, Triumph Earrings, Foragers, Speed Belt, etc), and it was easy to EXP on. You just sat there gaining TP, and spammed WS while keeping Utsusemi up. The same holds true today.

WAR/NIN and MNK are easy to exp on because there isn't much work involved. You just cast utsusemi, use your JA, and WS at 100% TP. Compare that to something like DRK where you have to sub WAR and worry about pulling hate and killing yourself. That doesn't mean DRK sucks by any means, it's just higher maintainance. You need to be more aware of hate levels, and you can't just freely spam your TP because you could kill yourself in the process.

The tradeoff is always Damage vs Ease of play. For every melee in the game minus WAR, you can do the most damage by subbing WAR. Subbing WAR means you don't have Utsusemi, which means you will be taking damage. RNG/NIN was broken because their damage was crazy high even without subbing WAR. It's the same philosphy behind MNK/NIN (because their damage is still reasonable). 2-Handed weapons and subbing /NIN just don't work well, you really need Double Attack to make 2-handed worthwhile.

[Francisco II]

RNG in my LS...

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[Mifaco]

that's nice, now post some shots of non-piercing-weakness mobs

[DeadLegend]

I like how those exp mobs are so shitty and weak you can have a Chain# higher than the amount of exp you get.

[NynJa]

I like how those exp mobs are so shitty and weak you can have a Chain# higher than the amount of exp you get.

still better xp than you'd get elsewhere, even if you subtract sanction bonus.

[Stellar]

"heh yeah the being outdamaged by pld/nin comment was a bit over it, made me laugh actually because that was just dumb "

I'll see if I can find the parse... It was a pld/nin using joyeuse, justice sword with damage dealing gears.. hauby +1, cerb +1 etc.. He actually out damaged the ranger by a pretty decent margin. This was in Sea on Aern's.