New Notorious Monsters and Battlefields!(07/19/2006)

[Shuemue]

It's okay, it just means the whinging melee can figure out a way of getting their own shit rather than having us blow shit up for them.

melee:GUYS THE MONSTER ISNT DYING
mage:Have you tried hitting it?
melee:I KEEP MISSING
melee2: WHERES DA SUSHI AT

Gimme a bard and I can beat anything to death

anything.

Aspid? Jailer of Fortitude?

[Tyrath]

It's okay, it just means the whinging melee can figure out a way of getting their own shit rather than having us blow shit up for them.

melee:GUYS THE MONSTER ISNT DYING
mage:Have you tried hitting it?
melee:I KEEP MISSING
melee2: WHERES DA SUSHI AT

Gimme a bard and I can beat anything to death

anything.

Aspid? Jailer of Fortitude?

Idk about the jailer...but Aspid is gonna be invincible come monday

[Ddong]

jailer of fortitude can be killed with 1 rng

[Ryko]

Alright- I want you, Ryko, to go find Kirin and duo him. You+BRD. GO BEAT IT TO DEATH MAN. If you're lucky- I'll allow outside help (maybe Maxx, and possibly Wafik's THF)

Any HNMs drop spider webs?

[Shuemue]

jailer of fortitude can be killed with 1 rng

Oh he's not immune to ranged attacks? Ok then.

[sekaran]

First RNG, now BLM.. man, I hope next July SAM doesn't get the nerf ; ;

[Garret]

Didnt SE mention in a earllier statment that when the 'nerf' happens they will add something that will make BLM more efficent when there is fewer BLM in the PT, or something like that? or some sort of new magics

Yes, 2-3 Blm in the party will be more efficient than the other 5 you thought about putting in who would be doing no damage, that way you can add in more SUMMONERS. Duh.

A little late, but I am sure this is what you meant right?

No, I did mean melees, but it's still a fair enough fix. The dead weight that extra Blm's will become being SEs way to make 'fewer Blm's more efficient' was my actual point anyway 8)

[inafume]

You won't hit for full damage on Fortitude w/ ranged attacks, but it's far better than trying to melee it. Anyone that can ranged attack should when fighting it.

[Suci]

Drg/drk new king of hnms

[Russta]

One thing I like that I forgot to touch upon on my last post is the IS for BFNM's thing. I was discussing the IS issue with some friends recently about how they're going to depreciate them after the sheer amount people have worked up since ToAU was released till now. This seems a really nice way and, unlike conquest, always gives you something to spend them on if the items they offer for them turn out to be shit.

[Kiro]

Leveling SMN to 75. RMT'ing all my BLM gear, afk.

[Airshort7]

First RNG, now BLM.. man, I hope next July PUP doesn't get the nerf ; ;

Easily fits.

[Dustybrown]

Leveling SMN to 75. RMT'ing all my BLM gear, afk.

Minor Fix.

[FFXIFlux]

So... Lets see, meleer hits for 50 damage, gives the mob 5-10 TP and has to stand beside the mob and get raped in the face by the resulting AE. BLM hits the mob for 1000 damage and gives the mob 10 TP and stands outside of AE.

Yes, the obvious solution isn't to fix meleers giving the mob 15 TIMES AS MUCH TP to the mob as BLM, but to lower BLM damage. I know lots of people that would rather bring war and mnk and nin and other melee jobs to something like Fafnir, but stick 10 meleers on it and you're going to get your ass winged every 10 seconds. Even something like Proto Omega goes from a joke with 4 melee on it to a nightmare with 8. I don't want to think about Ouryu.

Here's an idea SE, how about you fix the TP system and get creative with the NM encounters. Hey, AE aspir maybe? AEs that BLM can't stand outside? AEs where oh, say DEF matters maybe? DOT that blocks stoneskin and can't be erased so you can't sit? There are lots of ways to make the game not be slanted 100% towards BLM, but the lynch pin of the problem is melee giving TP and having to suck the resulting AE making them suck ass.

Anyway, my guess would be that damage done will be another modifier that increases by 1% per hit to some sort of cap, maybe 25%. So take a wyrm for example, BLM hits it for 1000, take off 500 for wyrm resist, then take off another 250 because it's been nuked 25 times already and has 25% blm nerf damage, so resulting nuke is for 250. If the wyrm has shell IV on then take off another 20%.

Whats interesting is they said Spirits Within would be nerfed too. I thought that was physical damage, but apparantly not. Mijn and Spirits aren't reduced by MDB and I didn't think wyrm resistance stopped them either... I wonder if relic weapon damage like the 10% HP or whatever Excalibur does will get nerfed by this as well...

[Rawk]

First RNG, now BLM.. man, I hope next July SAM doesn't get the nerf ; ;

DONT EVEN JOKE LIKE THAT

[Ryko]

oh noe the weskit and int ring market

Not like a bunch of would be defectors have bahamut's staves lying around <_<

[FFXIFlux]

First RNG, now BLM.. man, I hope next July SAM doesn't get the nerf ; ;

DONT EVEN JOKE LIKE THAT

This is PUP backlash. SE is convinced they're balanced so they're going to nerf everything else down to fit them.

[Alisha]

i posted this on KI too but heres what im worried about

my main concern is this scenario:

pop god 10 players use spirits within magic resistance goes through the roof

then you get a conflict between black mages and monks since they will both be contributing to further resistance build up.

[Rawk]

i posted this on KI too but heres what im worried about

my main concern is this scenario:

pop god 10 players use spirits within magic resistance goes through the roof

then you get a conflict between black mages and monks since they will both be contributing to further resistance build up.

Wait wait, all the different kinds of magic damage get lumped into one resistance category? I was thinking that the methods listed suggested that each kind of magic damage (i.e: ele ws vs ele magic) were independent of each other.

Crap

[Kurokikaze]

Whats interesting is they said Spirits Within would be nerfed too. I thought that was physical damage, but apparantly not. Mijn and Spirits aren't reduced by MDB and I didn't think wyrm resistance stopped them either...

Yeah, they've always been considered Magical damage. My Spirits Within do like 350 dmg at 300% w/ Full HP on Tiamat/Vrtra/Ouryu/lolJorm. Not sure why MDB doesn't effect it though.