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  1. #461
    BRP
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    I find it funny you remember my sig when it took me a full minute to remember what you were talking about. You obviously care way too much and I'm in no mood to put up with your shenanigans. You are way too dense and spiteful to deal with, please go bother someone else, I just don't care.

    SB caps at 50 if I remember, I don't know how much Monk Roll gives, but I believe a MNK nearly hits cap with the roll alone.

  2. #462
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    Its 20 SB natural.

  3. #463
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    I didn't read like 10 pages but alot of people are mentioning aspid.
    Can't you just have a blu use lowing to cancel out the regen..?

  4. #464
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    That Hydra looks like he spawns on that little island in the thickets accessible through Halvung. I didn't see any mobs there just a open area with nothing around and a one way drop off.

  5. #465
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    Quote Originally Posted by Falaras
    I didn't read like 10 pages but alot of people are mentioning aspid.
    Can't you just have a blu use lowing to cancel out the regen..?
    Since when did...
    A: Blue magic land (we'll see with AF)
    B: Lowing reduce HP

  6. #466
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    plague stops regen, lowing = plague

  7. #467
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    Quote Originally Posted by Falaras
    plague stops regen, lowing = plague
    ...are you serious? I've never seen this... its always just seemed tp and mp reduction over time.

  8. #468
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    This nerf is worse for support jobs. At least with blm they are usually in some binary state between alive and dead, they also have stoneskin... 8 maxx's in a pt with shiny scythes doesn't look like fun at all :/

  9. #469
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jooeetheplatypus
    Quote Originally Posted by Falaras
    plague stops regen, lowing = plague
    ...are you serious? I've never seen this... its always just seemed tp and mp reduction over time.
    He's right. I seriously doubt they would make HNM so susceptable to such a thing, though.

  10. #470
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    If you look on lolKI blu forums you can see some screenshots of people landing Lowing on aspid, no idea how long it lasts though.

    Edit with link: http://ffxi.killvoid.com/forums.php?m=posts&q=127610

  11. #471
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    a second installment of: "Why not to be a Summoner in Vana'diel" brought to you by The Wonderful World of Nirokun!

    1) Nirokun loves summoner, and secretly pwns shit as needed. He would not like to see summoner nerfed because allaka-noobs saw people using summoner in a manner that made it look "overpowered".

    2) Summoner has the lowest HP/VIT in the game. Oh, and no enhancing skill. Blink might still be the same black mages, but stoneskin is paper thin. Earthen Ward? Better than what you've got, but you cant use it in those oh-so-amazing solo battles.

    3) Bloodpact timers must seem incredibly long to you! Silly black mages used to continuous damage spikes in rapid succession will be befuddled be this block to your damage output.

    4) Summoner is a slow job. Remember those Bloodpact timers? They significantly slow down your ability to kill something, and your linkshell too. Waiting a minute to do damage is crazy! Dont piss off your linkshell, play warrior or monk, they do damage continually! Oh and look at all that HP!

    5) Leveling! Summoner is welcomed warmly to the PT! Your mp is used for cures, but only as much as cure 3! Your paladin is dying and cure 3 isnt enough? You should have leveled white mage! Ohohohohoho!

    6) "But Nirokun, people on BGforums are saying the next job is summoner, why do they say that?" Good question my little sheep! The obviously hate me! They want to see my job get nerfed like ranger! When they change TP gain on bloodpacts and hate accrued by pet commands to enormous amounts, we'll all be screwed!

    7) "I've seen other people level summoner and sub black mage, and my linkshell says its a 'nublet' thing to do, what do you think?" My little sheepish black mage, what great questions you have! There are 2 good subjobs for summoner, black mage and warrior! When you sub black mage, you can use all that elemental magic to lay waste to your target between those bloodpacts! Make sure to put "DD SMN, /whm: X" in your search comment, so they know you mean serious business! Oh yes, warrior. Warrior sub is amazing, you can intercept pulls with provoke and warcry before you tank gets to your target and hold it until your PT is ready! What a truly thoughtful summoner you are! Dont forget double attack, that will help your TP gain a lot, and you can use a weaponskill everyfight! I saw a galka summoner with claustrum do it!! He must be skilled!

  12. #472
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    If you look on lolKI blu forums you can see some screenshots of people landing Lowing on aspid, no idea how long it lasts though.
    Plague and Virus stop regeneration from resting (and plague has the additional MP/TP drain). They don't stop regen effects, like the spell or Aspid's shell thing.

  13. #473
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    Pretty sure your wrong on that, I got plagued a few times and it killed my auto regen. Also check the KI link >.>

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    Interesting, learn something new every day. I stand corrected.

  15. #475
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nirokun!
    7) "I've seen other people level summoner and sub black mage, and my linkshell says its a 'nublet' thing to do, what do you think?" My little sheepish black mage, what great questions you have! There are 2 good subjobs for summoner, black mage and warrior! When you sub black mage, you can use all that elemental magic to lay waste to your target between those bloodpacts! Make sure to put "DD SMN, /whm: X" in your search comment, so they know you mean serious business! Oh yes, warrior. Warrior sub is amazing, you can intercept pulls with provoke and warcry before you tank gets to your target and hold it until your PT is ready! What a truly thoughtful summoner you are! Dont forget double attack, that will help your TP gain a lot, and you can use a weaponskill everyfight! I saw a galka summoner with claustrum do it!! He must be skilled!
    This has been like, the best SMN guide I ever read. Rate up

  16. #476
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    I saw a galka summoner with claustrum do it!! He must be skilled!

    I lol'ed at this.

  17. #477
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    Quote Originally Posted by Falaras
    Pretty sure your wrong on that, I got plagued a few times and it killed my auto regen. Also check the KI link >.>
    BLU spells and what the mob do are not the same. Frightful Roar for instance is 10% done by BLU, but 20% done by demons.

  18. #478
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    I don't think the nerf is going to be as bad as people think.

    Could this be a nerf in preparation for adding Tier V (maybe AM 2) nukes for BLM to use? :O

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    I come back to my vacation to find this, just as I was leveling BLM.

    -DAAHAN

  20. #480
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jazelon
    I don't think the nerf is going to be as bad as people think.

    Could this be a nerf in preparation for adding Tier V (maybe AM 2) nukes for BLM to use? :O
    Then they better complete it with :San, curative magic VI, protective magic V, and RDM magic II.

    ...yeah, right.

    - Epical

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