So! SE suspended 2000 accounts...

[Ambir]

I won't disagree that banning people that use 3rd party programs is a good thing across the board, but why can't they get gilsellers that use 3rd party programs? Funny...Siren's have been intact for several years now, with no sign of slowing down. Nice to hear your server is lucky, when you have dead bodies floating around chasing Ulli and it's some of the same names that have been there awhile, you care less about "legit" people cheating.

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Quetz lost the group of Gilsellers that camped KB with this banning. They'd long been suspected of Claimbotting with claimers often not fighting the mob. Other wellknown gilsellers that don't obviously hack are still around.

[neophytal]

I won't disagree that banning people that use 3rd party programs is a good thing across the board, but why can't they get gilsellers that use 3rd party programs? Funny...Siren's have been intact for several years now, with no sign of slowing down. Nice to hear your server is lucky, when you have dead bodies floating around chasing Ulli and it's some of the same names that have been there awhile, you care less about "legit" people cheating.

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Quetz lost the group of Gilsellers that camped KB with this banning. They'd long been suspected of Claimbotting with claimers often not fighting the mob. Other wellknown gilsellers that don't obviously hack are still around.

yeah too funny watching the claimer die after just sitting there -.-

[Excalin Garisk]

Nothing has been done?

I was under the impression SE banned the Gil Seller several times, and stopped the "Xmas Inflation" that everyone was crying about. They made an update to stop MPK, making mobs depop. They deleted hundreds of mules, changed the D.Box system, and is trying to "nerf the BLM onry" they were using to camp Ulli (that everyone was bitching about).

Sure there are be lots of stupid GMs who dont do shit to what happens to you. Sure there are still alot of Gil sellers around. But there is alot of boters, and cheaters as well. They finally perma/temp banned 2000 accounts, and that is a good thing.

I was disagree that banning people that use 3rd party programs is a good thing across the board, but why can't they get gilsellers that use 3rd party programs? Funny...Siren's have been intact for several years now, with no sign of slowing down. Nice to hear your server is lucky, when you have dead bodies floating around chasing Ulli and it's some of the same names that have been there awhile, you care less about "legit" people cheating.

Exactly, 1 gilseller banned is better then 100 real players banned, because in the end, the only thing against ToS a POSer/Fleer is doing is the few times he moves a little faster. A Gilsellers very existence, every second is against ToS, and slowly wittling away and ruining alot of the experiences in this game. (Sup not being able to camp Cassie/KA/Simurgh/Serket for the past 2 years without alliances of warphacking competition) I agree with suspending people who fuck with the system, but in the end why should they even be looking at legit players, until every GS is banned. Stop wasting resources on real players, even if they do hack.

I agree with this. I do not see how hard it is to nail Gil Sellers. There is proably a thousand ways SE could go about cracking down on Gil Sellers. Even if they put one man on the job and every day he investigates different Server there would be more done against gil sellers then there has been to date. Yes we loved the day 800 got banned and the 300B Gil that was taken from them..... but WTF has that really done? I do not think you can completely flush out gil sellers from the game, but I do think you can cripple them and limit their impact in the game. Limiting the gils impact on the economy and keeping the fuck out of the way in important areas. Hell if SE would just enforce some of the policies such as limiting groups from over camping certain NMs....it would go a long way in itself

[Raineer]

Nothing has been done?

I was under the impression SE banned the Gil Seller several times, and stopped the "Xmas Inflation" that everyone was crying about. They made an update to stop MPK, making mobs depop. They deleted hundreds of mules, changed the D.Box system, and is trying to "nerf the BLM onry" they were using to camp Ulli (that everyone was bitching about).

Sure there are be lots of stupid GMs who dont do shit to what happens to you. Sure there are still alot of Gil sellers around. But there is alot of boters, and cheaters as well. They finally perma/temp banned 2000 accounts, and that is a good thing.

I was disagree that banning people that use 3rd party programs is a good thing across the board, but why can't they get gilsellers that use 3rd party programs? Funny...Siren's have been intact for several years now, with no sign of slowing down. Nice to hear your server is lucky, when you have dead bodies floating around chasing Ulli and it's some of the same names that have been there awhile, you care less about "legit" people cheating.

Exactly, 1 gilseller banned is better then 100 real players banned, because in the end, the only thing against ToS a POSer/Fleer is doing is the few times he moves a little faster. A Gilsellers very existence, every second is against ToS, and slowly wittling away and ruining alot of the experiences in this game. (Sup not being able to camp Cassie/KA/Simurgh/Serket for the past 2 years without alliances of warphacking competition) I agree with suspending people who fuck with the system, but in the end why should they even be looking at legit players, until every GS is banned. Stop wasting resources on real players, even if they do hack.

I agree with this. I do not see how hard it is to nail Gil Sellers. There is proably a thousand ways SE could go about cracking down on Gil Sellers. Even if they put one man on the job and every day he investigates different Server there would be more done against gil sellers then there has been to date. Yes we loved the day 800 got banned and the 300B Gil that was taken from them..... but WTF has that really done? I do not think you can completely flush out gil sellers from the game, but I do think you can cripple them and limit their impact in the game. Limiting the gils impact on the economy and keeping the fuck out of the way in important areas. Hell if SE would just enforce some of the policies such as limiting groups from over camping certain NMs....it would go a long way in itself

I think people would accept inflation if it meant they could actually camp NM's again.

[Excalin Garisk]

I think people would accept inflation if it meant they could actually camp NM's again.

No Doubt I think 9Ws have been selling Dynamis Money to buy Tigger pop items lately

[NynJa]

Exactly, 1 gilseller banned is better then 100 real players banned, because in the end, the only thing against ToS a POSer/Fleer is doing is the few times he moves a little faster. A Gilsellers very existence, every second is against ToS, and slowly wittling away and ruining alot of the experiences in this game. (Sup not being able to camp Cassie/KA/Simurgh/Serket for the past 2 years without alliances of warphacking competition) I agree with suspending people who fuck with the system, but in the end why should they even be looking at legit players, until every GS is banned. Stop wasting resources on real players, even if they do hack.

one gilseller per server banned is nothing...

[Epidemic]

Exactly, 1 gilseller banned is better then 100 real players banned, because in the end, the only thing against ToS a POSer/Fleer is doing is the few times he moves a little faster. A Gilsellers very existence, every second is against ToS, and slowly wittling away and ruining alot of the experiences in this game. (Sup not being able to camp Cassie/KA/Simurgh/Serket for the past 2 years without alliances of warphacking competition) I agree with suspending people who fuck with the system, but in the end why should they even be looking at legit players, until every GS is banned. Stop wasting resources on real players, even if they do hack.

one gilseller per server banned is nothing...

it's a start :\

[Lylie]

one gilseller per server banned is nothing...

Maybe... But 60 boters and cheaters in less per server is... ALOT.

[Priran]

one gilseller per server banned is nothing...

Maybe... But 60 boters and cheaters in less per server is... ALOT.

your sig and avatar, fuck it

[Lockecole]

Exactly, 1 gilseller banned is better then 100 real players banned, because in the end, the only thing against ToS a POSer/Fleer is doing is the few times he moves a little faster. A Gilsellers very existence, every second is against ToS, and slowly wittling away and ruining alot of the experiences in this game. (Sup not being able to camp Cassie/KA/Simurgh/Serket for the past 2 years without alliances of warphacking competition) I agree with suspending people who fuck with the system, but in the end why should they even be looking at legit players, until every GS is banned. Stop wasting resources on real players, even if they do hack.

one gilseller per server banned is nothing...

I never said it was something, I used the 1 to 100 ratio just as an example. That even if 100 real "cheaters" got banned and caught, in the end I'd rather see 1 gilseller get banned instead of those 100. Again, this isn't defending people getting caught legitamately, just saying that I think they should clean up the gaping wound before worrying about the small subtle scratches around it.

[miokomioko]

I'm not sure about all the other servers, but a lot of the people just recently permanently banned on mine were pretty much douchebags.

I consider this to be one of the best things to happen to this game thus far... until those sexy Group 2 merits tomorrow.

[MisterBob]

pretty douchebags

Freudian slip?

[miokomioko]

pretty douchebags

Freudian slip?

pretty much douchebags.

...shit.

[Excalin Garisk]

so when is the update again?

[Lockecole]

5pm EST >> ???

No scheduled time for the update length, probably will be letting us know any hour now.

[Epical]

5pm EST >> ???

No scheduled time for the update length, probably will be letting us know any hour now.

Uh, /servmes says 10am-2pm PDT, which means 1pm-5pm EST.

[Excalin Garisk]

guess I get to wait till I show up at work tomorrow to see what has been added to second JSM catergory for everyone....I am sure it will be the high light of an otherwise normal Ground hog day

[Lockecole]

5pm EST >> ???

No scheduled time for the update length, probably will be letting us know any hour now.

Uh, /servmes says 10am-2pm PDT, which means 1pm-5pm EST.

http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/polnews/news8151.shtml

Oops thats where I got the time from, guess its wrong.

[Daahan]

You usually add 1-2 hours to that because of extensions. SE is notorious for doing that

[Excalin Garisk]

You usually add 1-2 hours to that because of extensions. SE is notorious for doing that

Well I dont get to work till 4pm Cst(0100 here)...and as of now our ride home is delayed by a week(aug 10thish) >.<