Merit Point Additions(07/22/2006)

[XxSlusherxx]

hmm, lol dont want to derail too much, however with maxed attack (and i swap in af2 boots for atk on pacts) i notice myself consistently outdmging other smns on pacts. With 2 acc and both the af+1 legs and af2 gloves (and only 2 merits), I rarely miss (on tiamat yesterday, I didnt have a single miss on a pact)

But i mean what else is there to wear in legs slot anyway, af2? doesnt really help much in my opinion.

We have had a COR in the smn party for about a month now @wyrms, and pet attack up makes a very noticable diffrence.

[Excalin Garisk]

A friend was telling me back when they were about to test ToAU that Rdm was going to get something along the lines of tier II enspells that in addition to causing damage would add status effects (likely the elemental debuffs as mentioned to me). As it seems unlikely they would do this I would like it to be a Job trait verses a JA or Spell to boost the already existing spells effects....of course this is all heresay anyway, but a boost to enspells wouldnt be to bad, but I know I rather have some other killer treats.

[Kuropiko]

I'm willing to bet SE wants each SMN to fully upgrade a different final BP. IF you think about it it'd work. Not often do you have more than 6 SMN on an HNM (unless your shell is just full of them *sadface*) so they could just be sadistic and make them all use the exact same formula effectively making the best way to do it is to have each SMN using a different one.

Everyone is assuming the resistance will be independant for each element, like casting Thunder would only raise Lightning resistance, but i don't recall to have read anything implying this.

It could be like that, it could be only one magic resistance stat (that would even gimp Chi Blast with Elemental spamming or such), that could be one resistance stat for each type of different magic (Elemental, Divine, Blood Pacts...), and unless we test it we cannot assume using Heavenly Strike wouldn't gimp Grand Fall.

I personnally think independant resistance wouldn't change much and thus it wouldn't be like that. They spicified they want this to nerf manaburns especially on fights like Diabolos and with independant elemental resistance you still could kill Diabolos with 2 volleys of nukes if your BLMs each cast a specific spell.

Speculation by me only, though, of course...

[aurik]

Everyone is assuming the resistance will be independant for each element, like casting Thunder would only raise Lightning resistance, but i don't recall to have read anything implying this.

On the contrary, everyone I talk to thinks just the opposite.

[XxSlusherxx]

Everyone is assuming the resistance will be independant for each element, like casting Thunder would only raise Lightning resistance, but i don't recall to have read anything implying this.

On the contrary, everyone I talk to thinks just the opposite.

I'm with Aurik, if this was a sophisticated patch at all Chi Blast and Spirits would not have been included.

[gemini~cusp]

Everyone is assuming the resistance will be independant for each element, like casting Thunder would only raise Lightning resistance, but i don't recall to have read anything implying this.

On the contrary, everyone I talk to thinks just the opposite.

Was under impression it was a general resistance and not a single element so using any spell increased its resistance. Also it IS SE, they have to fuck you up where it hurts most, so single element is too easy.

A friend was telling me back when they were about to test ToAU that Rdm was going to get something along the lines of tier II enspells that in addition to causing damage would add status effects (likely the elemental debuffs as mentioned to me). As it seems unlikely they would do this I would like it to be a Job trait verses a JA or Spell to boost the already existing spells effects....of course this is all heresay anyway, but a boost to enspells wouldnt be to bad, but I know I rather have some other killer treats.

Some of the /recasts seem to recognize some spells posted previously (not sure if it was mentioned, to tired too scroll back 8 pages lol), but /recast "Utsusemi: San" is doable atm. Recasts for the debuffs I've tried are a nogo I'll probably screw around more with them just to see what stuff I can /recast for other jobs (and I tried /recast "Refresh II" and that didn't work , would have been awesome though if it did lol)!

[Excalin Garisk]

Some of the /recasts seem to recognize some spells posted previously (not sure if it was mentioned, to tired too scroll back 8 pages lol), but /recast "Utsusemi: San" is doable atm. Recasts for the debuffs I've tried are a nogo I'll probably screw around more with them just to see what stuff I can /recast for other jobs (and I tried /recast "Refresh II" and that didn't work , would have been awesome though if it did lol)!

Keep in mind some of those spells are already in game for Mobs. Utsusemi san is used my ninja mobs in Dynamis I believe.

[miokomioko]

Utsusemi san is used my ninja mobs in Dynamis I believe.

People still think that? >_<

If I'm not mistaken, the only use of Utsusemi: San at the moment is the Promyvion mobs "Seethers" for their TP move Winds of Promyvion, or some name similar to that, which gives them like 15 utsusemi shadows... it also uses an animation which is a bigger, more obnoxious Utsusemi animation... Maybe Puks' "Zephyr Mantle" is the same animation? I don't recall, but definitely not 15 shadows.

[threevo]

[quote=Excalin Garisk]

Some of the /recasts seem to recognize some spells posted previously (not sure if it was mentioned, to tired too scroll back 8 pages lol), but /recast "Utsusemi: San" is doable atm. Recasts for the debuffs I've tried are a nogo I'll probably screw around more with them just to see what stuff I can /recast for other jobs (and I tried /recast "Refresh II" and that didn't work , would have been awesome though if it did lol)!

Keep in mind some of those spells are already in game for Mobs. Utsusemi san is used my ninja mobs in Dynamis I believe.[/quote:f3910]
no they dont

[Priran]

[quote=Excalin Garisk]

Some of the /recasts seem to recognize some spells posted previously (not sure if it was mentioned, to tired too scroll back 8 pages lol), but /recast "Utsusemi: San" is doable atm. Recasts for the debuffs I've tried are a nogo I'll probably screw around more with them just to see what stuff I can /recast for other jobs (and I tried /recast "Refresh II" and that didn't work , would have been awesome though if it did lol)!

Keep in mind some of those spells are already in game for Mobs. Utsusemi san is used my ninja mobs in Dynamis I believe.[/quote:e8095]I got Jubaku:San'd in Qufim once D:

[layoneil]

Everyone is assuming the resistance will be independant for each element, like casting Thunder would only raise Lightning resistance, but i don't recall to have read anything implying this.

On the contrary, everyone I talk to thinks just the opposite.

I'm with Aurik, if this was a sophisticated patch at all Chi Blast and Spirits would not have been included.

Chi Blasts maybe, but freaking Red Lotus Blade and Mijin Gakure, it's like stitching up a wound with a jack hammer.

[Ryko]

RED LOTUS NOOOOOOOOO

[Khamsin]

Utsusemi san is used my ninja mobs in Dynamis I believe.

People still think that? >_<

If I'm not mistaken, the only use of Utsusemi: San at the moment is the Promyvion mobs "Seethers" for their TP move Winds of Promyvion, or some name similar to that, which gives them like 15 utsusemi shadows... it also uses an animation which is a bigger, more obnoxious Utsusemi animation... Maybe Puks' "Zephyr Mantle" is the same animation? I don't recall, but definitely not 15 shadows.

Seethers use Occultation, not Utsusemi: San.

Ninja edit

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

All I know is utsu:san in the dat is a 12 second cast time.

[Priran]

Utsusemi san is used my ninja mobs in Dynamis I believe.

People still think that? >_<

If I'm not mistaken, the only use of Utsusemi: San at the moment is the Promyvion mobs "Seethers" for their TP move Winds of Promyvion, or some name similar to that, which gives them like 15 utsusemi shadows... it also uses an animation which is a bigger, more obnoxious Utsusemi animation... Maybe Puks' "Zephyr Mantle" is the same animation? I don't recall, but definitely not 15 shadows.

Seethers use Winds of Promyvion as you say, not Utsusemi: San.

It's called Occultation.

[Khamsin]

Utsusemi san is used my ninja mobs in Dynamis I believe.

People still think that? >_<

If I'm not mistaken, the only use of Utsusemi: San at the moment is the Promyvion mobs "Seethers" for their TP move Winds of Promyvion, or some name similar to that, which gives them like 15 utsusemi shadows... it also uses an animation which is a bigger, more obnoxious Utsusemi animation... Maybe Puks' "Zephyr Mantle" is the same animation? I don't recall, but definitely not 15 shadows.

Seethers use Occultation, not Utsusemi: San.

It's called Occultation.

Ninja edit

Thanks.

[Gulkeeva]

Closest utsumei-san animation I seen is from puk, too bad thats not it though

Too bad they don't because the ninjutsu version sounds alot different from what puks use.

Things in limbus don't use this either or CoP dynamis

http://www.neko-sentai.com/images/san1.jpg
http://www.neko-sentai.com/images/san2.jpg
http://www.neko-sentai.com/images/san3.jpg

[miokomioko]

I was referring to the Utsusemi: San .dat animation being used by Seethers and Puks, and nothing else in the game, since no mob in the game casts the spell, as far as I know.

[Koyangi]

Gulkeeva is like the ultimate hacker XD lol

[Epical]

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