Merit Point Additions(07/22/2006)

[Ryko]

GO GO, FOR THE GOOD OF THE CITY

[Daahan]

A few of us were talking in LS the other day about how it would be cool if BRD could merit and be able to play a 3rd song, but the 3rd song could only be a status song like a carol or the various other ones, not a attribute enhancing song. Or, BRD can merit and gain an ability like chain affinity, only call it song affinity or something and allow them to cast a third song every time the ability would be up. Most likely not even going to be the case but it doesn't hurt to have an imagination.

Massacre Elegy still seems like the thing most of the bards are hoping for (I know I am).

[Epical]

A few of us were talking in LS the other day about how it would be cool if BRD could merit and be able to play a 3rd song, but the 3rd song could only be a status song like a carol or the various other ones, not a attribute enhancing song. Or, BRD can merit and gain an ability like chain affinity, only call it song affinity or something and allow them to cast a third song every time the ability would be up. Most likely not even going to be the case but it doesn't hurt to have an imagination.

Massacre Elegy still seems like the thing most of the bards are hoping for (I know I am).

Carnage Elegy already owns mobs, Massacre Elegy would make NIN be like... zzz.

[Daahan]

A few of us were talking in LS the other day about how it would be cool if BRD could merit and be able to play a 3rd song, but the 3rd song could only be a status song like a carol or the various other ones, not a attribute enhancing song. Or, BRD can merit and gain an ability like chain affinity, only call it song affinity or something and allow them to cast a third song every time the ability would be up. Most likely not even going to be the case but it doesn't hurt to have an imagination.

Massacre Elegy still seems like the thing most of the bards are hoping for (I know I am).

Carnage Elegy already owns mobs, Massacre Elegy would make NIN be like... zzz.

Yea but don't you think it would compensate for a lot of endgame things that will most likely be screwed over by the BLM nerf? :wink:

[Devek]

15 jobs are being buffed including black mage.. there is no nerf.

[Mifaco]

15 jobs are being buffed including black mage.. there is no nerf.

Keep deluding yourself.

[Daahan]

15 jobs are being buffed including black mage.. there is no nerf.

yep, and Walt Disney is cryogenically frozen and they are working on reviving him.

[Kimiko]

15 jobs are being buffed including black mage.. there is no nerf.

yep, and Walt Disney is cryogenically frozen and they are working on reviving him.

Yes, and I'm secretly the 11th Doctor. Ya wanna come with me?

[Eander]

The following spells seem to be in the same Buff line:

ba_Tera(?):
http://www.sendspace.com/file/3yuifp

ba_Aqua(?):
http://www.sendspace.com/file/3ij5ho

ba_Airis(?):
http://www.sendspace.com/file/sn3kge

ba_Agunis(?):
http://www.sendspace.com/file/gea4zp

These all seem like they're certainly Bar-spell level 2 to me.

I wouldn't mind getting Gravity 2, with increased duration and/or recast.

I'm also surprised no one's mentioned that all of the Debuff-gas are also in the DATs. There's a decent chance RDM will get Paralyga, Silencega, etc, etc. These would be fairly useful in Dynamis, but I'm having trouble thinking of where else I'd use them.

Probably a pretty good chance of Protect/Shell 5 too. We'll see in a couple hours I guess.

[Not Kuno]

There's a decent chance RDM will get Paralyga, Silencega, etc, etc. These would be fairly useful in Dynamis, but I'm having trouble thinking of where else I'd use them.

Probably a pretty good chance of Protect/Shell 5 too. We'll see in a couple hours I guess.

They're in the dats because mobs cast paralyga and silencega already on players (jorm, bahamut etc), and bahamut does protect/shell5 as well as some other npcs.

[Dezzimal]

debuff-agas would be pretty killer in ballista.

[draxyl]

what's a ballista?

[Kuponut]

My thoughts:
The changes to Elemental Magic, Ninjitsu, Spirits Within, etc. Won't be as bad as people may think. The changes to Ranged Attacks, Utsusemi, and TP were announced after they took the servers down for maintenance for the Updates and such, rather than announced before, like the changes to Elemental Magic were. Either that, or Square has some other change that will be a more drastic nerf than Elemental Magic Change will be !

[Daahan]

My thoughts:
The changes to Elemental Magic, Ninjitsu, Spirits Within, etc. Won't be as bad as people may think. The changes to Ranged Attacks, Utsusemi, and TP were announced after they took the servers down for maintenance for the Updates and such, rather than announced before, like the changes to Elemental Magic were. Either that, or Square has some other change that will be a more drastic nerf than Elemental Magic etc. !

Or we can just have them nerf all jobs to the point where they are all on comparison to that of level 1, and save SE about 10 years of extra nerfs and work in general.

[Khamsin]

So far I've been lucky. I'm WAR, RDM, and SMN, and neither have been touched by the nerf stick. I just hope that none of those jobs (or the subs most commonly used by those jobs) ever will be.

[Daahan]

Since SE has claimed that they will start listening to suggestions from websites like Alla or whatever, I fear for BRD sometimes, becuase I know there are Zammy RDMs who endlessly bitch, moan, and complain about how SE favors BRD over RDM.

[Julian]

My thoughts:
The changes to Elemental Magic, Ninjitsu, Spirits Within, etc. Won't be as bad as people may think. The changes to Ranged Attacks, Utsusemi, and TP were announced after they took the servers down for maintenance for the Updates and such, rather than announced before, like the changes to Elemental Magic were. Either that, or Square has some other change that will be a more drastic nerf than Elemental Magic Change will be !

Changes to RNG and NIN were announced a few days before the maintenance.

[Khamsin]

From what I've noticed, the only significant details they seem to not release until the update has begun (or make you datamine for), are changes to and addition of items (other than stack size changes which are announced 3 days prior), and other things that may significantly impact the economy (other than job nerf panic clearing houses).

[Kuponut]

My thoughts:
The changes to Elemental Magic, Ninjitsu, Spirits Within, etc. Won't be as bad as people may think. The changes to Ranged Attacks, Utsusemi, and TP were announced after they took the servers down for maintenance for the Updates and such, rather than announced before, like the changes to Elemental Magic were. Either that, or Square has some other change that will be a more drastic nerf than Elemental Magic Change will be !

Changes to RNG and NIN were announced a few days before the maintenance.

Really? I was pretty sure that they had announced those changes during the actual maintenance?

http://ffxi.somepage.com/news/index.php ... 0&sort_by=

If you look halfway down the page, it shows the official Update Notes for that Patch, on the day that it happened, and if you look at previous announcements, there was no notice that Ranged attacks and Utsusemi were being changed.

[Priran]

My thoughts:
The changes to Elemental Magic, Ninjitsu, Spirits Within, etc. Won't be as bad as people may think. The changes to Ranged Attacks, Utsusemi, and TP were announced after they took the servers down for maintenance for the Updates and such, rather than announced before, like the changes to Elemental Magic were. Either that, or Square has some other change that will be a more drastic nerf than Elemental Magic Change will be !

Changes to RNG and NIN were announced a few days before the maintenance.

Really? I was pretty sure that they had announced those changes during the actual maintenance?

http://ffxi.somepage.com/news/index.php ... 0&sort_by=

If you look halfway down the page, it shows the official Update Notes for that Patch, on the day that it happened, and if you look at previous announcements, there was no notice that Ranged attacks and Utsusemi were being changed.

There definately was, I dunno why it isn't archived there, but I remember that the image for the article was a NIN.

Ninja edit:

http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/topics ... 00506.html