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[JoOeetheplatypuS]

I heard something about an Apkallu NM. I demand to know more >_>

Boy, that's got the potential to be SE's cruest joke ever.

- Kill placeholders to spawn NM...and buff the hell out of each subsequent Apkaulla.
- Pray to God the NM pops before you're doing single digit melee damage.
- Hope SE didn't give him 4 assistant Apkallu Servants of Death or anything crazy to deal with.

You're right Rocl, we need to see just what SE came up with for this guy. Could be outstanding fun.

"Quick! Trade your fish to the Apkallu's Followers before they fuck us up!"
"Shit, I forgot my Sardines"
Apkallu's Assintant readies Yawn II
"WTF is that?"
*cue the Apkallu version of Nightmare. Squared*
"I hate you SE"

The Apkallu I think I know of has no placeholders and will just randomly pop. Until I can prove his existance, I don't want to say anymore.

With that said though, who's to say you don't need max hate to make him pop? Is that any stupider a concept than having to DIE to get an NM to pop or run through a pond and get a negative effect?

Dying to get a NM to pop is fucking genius.

[TsingTao]

The Apkallu I think I know of has no placeholders and will just randomly pop. Until I can prove his existance, I don't want to say anymore.

With that said though, who's to say you don't need max hate to make him pop? Is that any stupider a concept than having to DIE to get an NM to pop or run through a pond and get a negative effect?

I certainly hope you're right. A NM popping after you already die certainly means I wouldn't put anything past SE any more.

Hay, maybe Faf should spawn like that? Eat it to Darterga death and there's a chance he shows up to crap on your corpse. Fun for all!

PS: Go get your Apkallu, we're curious to know what you find.

[Omalika]

The Apkallu I think I know of has no placeholders and will just randomly pop. Until I can prove his existance, I don't want to say anymore.

With that said though, who's to say you don't need max hate to make him pop? Is that any stupider a concept than having to DIE to get an NM to pop or run through a pond and get a negative effect?

I certainly hope you're right. A NM popping after you already die certainly means I wouldn't put anything past SE any more.

Hay, maybe Faf should spawn like that? Eat it to Darterga death and there's a chance he shows up to crap on your corpse. Fun for all!

PS: Go get your Apkallu, we're curious to know what you find.

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[Kudosai]

Okay. Zikko is unbelievably easy. I was there with a full party, but I near soloed it.
This is the story:
My PT is there, NIN says she has to go and warps when the bard is pulling mobs around the pond to avoid adds. So anyways she left and Zikko popped, I sent my carbuncle at it and pulled it back to camp with 98% still left on it.
I jump over to my computer and grab the NM with my SAM/THF while the rest of the PT is dealing with trying to sleep the adds. As SAM/THF I was able to solo it to 45% (Was about to use a WS when it killed me, I had 300 HP left.)
It used an imp special attack that did 324 DMG and killed me. But, I really think any prepared melee/NIN or NIN/? Can solo it with ease. Going to go switch to SAM/NIN and give it another go.
edit: I chose to camp in the tunnel with the skeleton. If you camp near the mouth it is possible to avoid HP aggro from it.
edit2: You can also camp at the wall under the drop off. The main part of the fight is avoiding adds. Can't really kill them and pop him, because they respawn so quickly. I usually end up sac pulling it with Kudosai and killing it with SAM.
Also, Echo drops help for this a lot of you are soloing.

[Enitsu]

Okay. Zikko is unbelievably easy. I was there with a full party, but I near soloed it.
This is the story:
My PT is there, NIN says she has to go and warps when the bard is pulling mobs around the pond to avoid adds. So anyways she left and Zikko popped, I sent my carbuncle at it and pulled it back to camp with 98% still left on it.
I jump over to my computer and grab the NM with my SAM/THF while the rest of the PT is dealing with trying to sleep the adds. As SAM/THF I was able to solo it to 45% (Was about to use a WS when it killed me, I had 300 HP left.)
It used an imp special attack that did 324 DMG and killed me. But, I really think any prepared melee/NIN or NIN/? Can solo it with ease. Going to go switch to SAM/NIN and give it another go.
edit: I chose to camp in the tunnel with the skeleton. If you camp near the mouth it is possible to avoid HP aggro from it.

Were you two-boxing or just crazy?

[Larkwynn]

Does anyone else have a feeling SE lowered the R1 exp loss solely to compensate for forcing people to die to pop their new NM? >.>

[Kudosai]

I am 2boxing^^
Anyways just killed it, no drops, 112LP.
The thing hit like a pussy. 34dmg non crit.
Seemed to be a little resistant to my WS's.

[Beave]

Dying to get a NM to pop is fucking genius.

It's not all the stupid to do. Just make sure that person isn't a party leader, so that after the NM pops you can kick them and invite someone else.

Dying to pop an NM is somewhat like a SAC pull in dynamis, in that someone must die to progress further (i.e. pop the NM). Basically it all depends on what the NM is, and if it's worth killing someone to make it pop. The idea isn't all the farfetched >.>

[Prometheus]

On the subject of Lamia No.19...

Yesterday I went to Arrapago Reef to mess around looking for the NM. I witnessed people dying near the Soulflayers location to the east of Ilrusi Atoll that was previously mentioned in this thread, and I did not see it pop there. After seeing a few people die in that area, I went to where the other reports had come from, where the Lamie No.7 had been guarding the Archaic Mirror in the southern portion of the same map. The Archaic Mirror was up, two Guards were there, but no Lamie No.7. I got myself killed by the Guards at the mirror, but did not get a message. Then only a few minutes later, I Reraised and died again in the same spot, and I did get the "sense of foreboding" message this time, but the NM didn't pop. It seems awfully random.

This is what really interested me though: Today, the Undead Swarm took the Astral Candescence on my server, and a handful of us went to rescue it from Arrapago Reef. When somebody in my party would die on the way, we never got the "sense of foreboding" message, but these deaths were not in the previously mentioned locations, so I wasn't expecting anything anyway. However, when I least expected it was when the message came up... when members of my party would die during the BC fight! Thankfully it was never followed by an NM pop, but this happened several times during the fight. Wouldn't it be wonderful if Lamia No.19 could pop inside the BC? -,-

[Delekii]

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Soloed on BST. The NMs pop in a group of three and they link hate (IE, cant be pet pulled as you would expect). I dont know how exactly I managed it, but when I zoned them after my pet didnt even live long enough to /logout, I came back out, and only one of the three nm's remained - I never saw the RDM or the PLD again. The fight was easy enough on BST, but it took about 30 mins probably - Eagle Eye Shot (which people have said goes through blin) did 1200 damage to my pet.

[nekoshoonen]

where did you find the Unruly, what were the names of the other 2 NMs? also spawn conditions if you know them would be helpful thanks ^^

[Rocl]

Zoraal Ja's pikachu reflects Cures >_> I could of sworn normal Colibri couldn't do that?

[Maguspk]

On the subject of Lamia No.19...

Yesterday I went to Arrapago Reef to mess around looking for the NM. I witnessed people dying near the Soulflayers location to the east of Ilrusi Atoll that was previously mentioned in this thread, and I did not see it pop there. After seeing a few people die in that area, I went to where the other reports had come from, where the Lamie No.7 had been guarding the Archaic Mirror in the southern portion of the same map. The Archaic Mirror was up, two Guards were there, but no Lamie No.7. I got myself killed by the Guards at the mirror, but did not get a message. Then only a few minutes later, I Reraised and died again in the same spot, and I did get the "sense of foreboding" message this time, but the NM didn't pop. It seems awfully random.

This is what really interested me though: Today, the Undead Swarm took the Astral Candescence on my server, and a handful of us went to rescue it from Arrapago Reef. When somebody in my party would die on the way, we never got the "sense of foreboding" message, but these deaths were not in the previously mentioned locations, so I wasn't expecting anything anyway. However, when I least expected it was when the message came up... when members of my party would die during the BC fight! Thankfully it was never followed by an NM pop, but this happened several times during the fight. Wouldn't it be wonderful if Lamia No.19 could pop inside the BC? -,-

That's a very interesting account. That would be quire funny if it could be popped in a BC.

[Kurp]

Some friends and I popped Lamia No.19 after probably 40 random deaths over a couple hours, I think we must have seen 15-20 'forboding' messages. Of course though, she had to wait until we had a bunch of Imps on us and people using Mijin Gakure to go to sleep. We died horribly.

I'll guess and say it's a fairly low chance lottery on the message and she probably has a timer after she's dies/despawns. The only thing I know for sure now is that she has low HP and defense. If you're ready for her and the two skeletons, she'd be easy to take out with a party, barring any odd surprises some new NMs like to pull at low HP.

You can also get the messages suiciding a level 1 toon with poison pots.

[nekoshoonen]

i really don't think thats the case, we managed to pop Lamia 19 about 4-5 times while fighting n.7

[Kurp]

Pop and kill or pop and let despawn?

[Celeras]

Pop and kill or pop and let despawn?

I dont think they killed it 4-5 times while fighting another NM.

[Solefald]

we popped Lamia No. 19 at G-10 on the same map with the staging point (like Mysterytour says), it dropped Exorcist hose

we had killed Lamie No. 7 a few minutes prior, and got Lamia 19 to pop on the first "you sense..." message that we got, after about 15 deaths total

[Larkwynn]

Hard fight? How many people to kill?

[Solefald]

11 people, I was the level 2 sac so I didn't fight it, but it seemed very very easy. Lamie No. 7 was harder.