Thief Damage increase Fact or Fiction?

[Lordwafik]

Stabler's Raptor gave me aids


edit : Hpemde didnt even have HP for the full triple attack, only got 10% return instead of 11 frown

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<3 open mouth hpemde

[Slott]

after seeing sniper+1 price today i bought a toreador ring instead lol, and got a bomb core...so should be doingood now :D

curious, what are your thoughts on feint now, im thinking to actually take it to 3 instead of assassins charge. Charge seems nice for epeen and all, but over all its not really *that* great.maybe feint 3, charge 2, 1 aura steal?

[Lordwafik]

after seeing sniper+1 price today i bought a toreador ring instead lol, and got a bomb core...so should be doingood now :D

curious, what are your thoughts on feint now, im thinking to actually take it to 3 instead of assassins charge. Charge seems nice for epeen and all, but over all its not really *that* great.maybe feint 3, charge 2, 1 aura steal?

Feint is fucking amazing, look at my SS

Fully meriting that one takes it from 10 mins to 6 mins, which is how frequent you'd pull a high evasive mob, or, would be perfect just before you WS on a wyrm so nobody misses and wastes SC opportunity.

Literally makes it possible to smack a high eva mob in haste gear.

[Slott]

yeah, seems good for raids too, how long it last?

[Lordwafik]

about 20-30 seconds, I havent really gone out to test and count how long it lasts sorry, but the effect is amazing.

At first I too was gonna to AC x3, but changed my mind, i'll do Feint x3, aura steal x1, and that back acc up thingey x1. Most likely i'll do aura steal x2

[Krandor]

Stabler's Raptor gave me aids


edit : Hpemde didnt even have HP for the full triple attack, only got 10% return instead of 11 frown

http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/4393/lolseadz0.jpg

<3 open mouth hpemde

Om'Hpemde might be able to eat the full damage of that. It'll have slighty higher defense but I'm sure the extra HP will make all the hits land.

[Slott]

amazing, fought fafnir today and barely any hits for 0. This buff makes my thief joygasm :/

[Ramuss]

How the hell does this buff stop u from hitting 0's <.<?

If you mean dagger upgrade i understand, but wtf =/

[Eaglestrike]

How the hell does this buff stop u from hitting 0's <.<?

If you mean dagger upgrade i understand, but wtf =/

Simple. Hitting for 0 is usually because your attack is much lower than a mobs defense. So you're hitting in the lower range of your weapons DMG. With a lower damage weapon, it's slightly more likely that window will hit a 0 than with a higher damage weapon.

Something like that at least.

[Ramuss]

yer, but his talking about feint isnt he =/ all that is. is well evd down D:!


unless im missing something =/

[frozenflame]

THF knife in xp pt......why? Get a sirocco or misericorde+1.

Anyways, one of our LS thieves did a 906 SATA+Assassin's Charge+Last Resort+Souleater Sharkbite to Tiamat last night with no food or bard buffs. Not sure on what dagger he used, but it'd either be a thief knife or blau.

I want a stylet. The THF knife is actully pretty good damage like I said I do not use it during the daylight hours.

stylet's crap. Faux parsed it for me when I had 2 sitting in my bazaar for 2 months.

i know this is late but stylet is rare.. :s

EDIT: lol the license plate guy beat me to it on page 7 :s

[Setats]

yer, but his talking about feint isnt he =/ all that is. is well evd down D:!


unless im missing something =/

pretty sure he's just talking about in general. Most THFs i knew hit Fafnir for 0 a lot pre-patch, but he's saying he didn't hit for 0 that much.

[Ramuss]

i see, my bad =/

[Keido]

Final build untill I recieve a X's Knife. Thanks for the suggestions.

TP gain:
Head: Optical Hat
Neck: Chivalrous Chain
Body: Homam Corazza
Legs: War Brais +1
Hands: War Gloves +1
Feet: Assassin's Poulaines
L. Ear: Merman's Earring
R. Ear: Brutal Earring
L. Ring: Sniper Ring
R. Ring: Sniper Ring
Belt: Potent Belt
Back: Amemet Mantle +1
Range: Bomb Core
Second Hand: Behemoth Knife +1
Main Hand: Blau Dolch

Weapon Skill:
Head: Hecatomb Cap
Neck: Spike Necklace
Body: Hecatomb Harness
Legs: Dusk Trousers
Hands: Hecatomb Mittens
Feet: Hecatomb Leggings
L. Ring: Adroit Ring
R. Ring: Rajas Ring
L. Ear: Pixie Earring
R. Ear: Suppanomimi Earring
Belt: Warwolf Belt
Back: Amemet Mantle +1
Range: Bomb Core
Second Hand: Behemoth Knife +1
Main Hand: Blau Dolch

Merits:
4 Dex merits
4 Hp merits
8 Dagger merits
4 Evasion merits
5 Triple Attack merits
2 Assassins Charge merit
4 Critical Hit merits
1 Enemy Critical Down merit
1 Feint
1 Aura Steal

This is my final build I now use red curry bison steak or sis kebabi. My new records are 1979 Shark Bite on Abraxas. 1744 Evisceration on Abraxas. 1655 Dancing Edge on Abraxas. Using what some of you have suggested has greatly improved my WS damage. Also is it just me or does Evisceration really kick ass now. I use evisceration alot more it is my favorite WS.

[Slott]

I was talking about the dagger buff in general. Rarely hit for 0, it was nice being able to ws him about once a minute (and no I didnt have a bard, still used sushi too)

Also, why would the above poster use behe +1 over blau dolch main?

As for evisceration, i still find dancing edge better

[Raineer]

Also, why would the above poster use behe +1 over blau dolch main?

Yeah not seeing the reasoning for this either.

[Keido]

Also, why would the above poster use behe +1 over blau dolch main?

Yeah not seeing the reasoning for this either.

Whoops switch those around

[threevo]

Also, why would the above poster use behe +1 over blau dolch main?

Yeah not seeing the reasoning for this either.

fuck the knives, why is he TPing in a Corse Cape.

[Soma]

yeah, seems good for raids too, how long it last?

Feint lasts exactly 30 seconds. However, it can be overwritten by Warm-Up or Wind Wall, which sucks.

[suji]

Final build untill I recieve a X's Knife. Thanks for the suggestions.

TP gain:
...
L. Ear: Merman's Earring
R. Ear: Brutal Earring

Weapon Skill:
...
L. Ear: Pixie Earring
R. Ear: Suppanomimi Earring
...

Why would you use 6 attack over an effective 5% haste in your ear slot for TP gain? I could see considering this if you didn't have Suppanomimi but then I was surprised even more when I saw you had Suppanomimi in your WS set

With the earrings you have to choose from, why not Suppa/Brutal for TP and Brutal/Pixie for WS? Some people don't like Brutal for WS but it multihit procs in WS are sexy. Even if you didn't like that, Merman's earring or Minuet earring (and others) would arguably help you a lot more than AGI+2 in WS; and if you were going for AGI, why not Genin?