How many people quitting?

[Cephius]

I guess I'm alone on this but the merit point additions are more than enough to keep me interested in this game. We don't even know how effective half the abilities are yet and people are already whining about this update, I don't get it. I guess many of you haven't been playing too long or you'd know that they'll never ever add anything that will pull people away from camping the ground kings. When you've been playing as long as I have you learn to expect the worst so you won't be disappointed when stuff is released. People have a bad habit of making up rumors about wtfpwnomg magic and whatnot, and if you listen it you're gonna be disappointed when they're not what they were built up to be. Hydra is a perfect example of this. People hacked the dats and made it look like it was bigger than bahamut, and people bought it and enhanced the rumor by guessing it was gonna be along the lines of a CoP wyrm in difficulty. So of course when it comes out its smaller than we thought and a difficult fight with poor drops and everyone is disappointed. They've done it before (hello Jormungand!) so why is everyone so surprised?

For me, I like meriting, I've been doing the HNM thing for almost 3 years in the hell that is Midgard, and meriting with some buddies is relaxing for me and a chance to use the gear I've gotten instead of idling with it. Anything that gets people to merit with me and have some fun is a bonus. The only downside to this update is that SO MANY people are meriting it's impossible to find a camp anywhere. But that'll die down in a few weeks so I'm not too concerned.

My main point is that people have different tastes and ToAU, much unlike CoP, delivers something for everyone in the endgame community. Wether you're into assaults, merits, exploring new areas, or finding new ways to kill new HNMs, ToAU certainly does not fail. I realize everyone loves to bash those SE bastards but give the ToAU team a break a bit. Making useless armor for hydra is dumb yes, but they can't make EVERYONE happy in every aspect of the game. Focus on something you like instead of acting like this is so bad that everyone will quit over it.

[Janice]

Why were people surprised? Because when ToAU came out, it brought a lot of good stuff. It looked liked SE was starting to get their act together. And the stuff coming out about the update looked good. But now to me, it looks like the COP team killed the ToAU team and took over for updating the game.

[Lordender]

Why were people surprised? Because when ToAU came out, it brought a lot of good stuff. It looked liked SE was starting to get their act together. And the stuff coming out about the update looked good. But now to me, it looks like the COP team killed the ToAU team and took over for updating the game.

QFT

[Kurp]

Why were people surprised? Because when ToAU came out, it brought a lot of good stuff. It looked liked SE was starting to get their act together. And the stuff coming out about the update looked good. But now to me, it looks like the COP team killed the ToAU team and took over for updating the game.

This is exactly how I feel. It's such a letdown.

[threevo]

i liked the update




(Maybe because i have 75 drk 75thf and my pharpe got pimped)

[Norelco]

i liked the update

I like it because I can now get AF for my Corsair. The cutscenes for the COR AF alone have been worth it to me.

[Jahuran]

As optimistic as I was following the Hydra fight really closely in hopes of seeing a sexy abjuration drop. I must say that in a game where endgame population is so heavy the focus on fixing current issues is absent.

Stealing some stuff Priran brought up:

Issue:
Ullikummi heavily camped by "players who have more time to spend on ffxi".
Fix:
Ullikummi can now pop everywhere in the room. And every mob is now a potential placeholder. HOw about we make it a seal / keyitem triggered battle anyone can start.
Downside:
MrArgus doesn't give a flying rats ass where the mob pops. The only inconvenience is that all aura statues are open season now and exp parties will have less to pull. But yeah who the fuck exps there anyway nowadays amirite guys?.

Issue:
Hydra's drops are shitty as fuck
Fix:
Add abjurations to Hydra's loot pool. Hell add all of the sought after pieces on Hydra and the lesser pieces on Cerberus
Downside:
Some people will blow a goddamn fuse over spending so much time in da,bd,vos. SE doesn't give a shit about what people say or suggest now anyway this won't change anything.

Issue:
Cerberus Av Draws-In people on the wall.
Fix:
Accept the fact that geometry should help add strategy to a fight and stop punishing for it. SE had no problem punishing you for misstepping on that goddamn ledge in perradamo torr or whatever the fuck the mountain is called in Attohwa Chasm.
Downside:
People will start exploiting geometry and pathing to exploits even further. Unless SE fixes the pathing on some monsters. Cerberus:Hello bunch of faggots on a wall? in stead of drawing you in I'll walk over to you and give a slight chance of escaping before I chomp through your papertowel armor.

Issue:
ISNMs are going to kill the market for several expensive items
Fix:
Some items are meant to be rare. Dragon talons dropping from ISNM is gonna put a serious dent in Weskits and perhaps some other items. Add gear made with new hnm drops that surpasses the gear's worth you just ruined with ISNMs.
Downside:
Some players are going to make less money / seen their stuff decrease in value.

Issue:
The new gear sucks
Fix:
Stop sidegrading and add progression in the gear people can obtain.
Downside:
HAY GUYS I spent 2 years in DA/BD/VOS and all I got is this Blue Hauberk and now the red Hydra dropped Hauberk has 5 more STR. Woe is me. ZOMG my 2-3 attack sword just got pwnd by a 4-7 attack sword I feel so sad.

Will I quit. No, I still find fun things to do besides endgame events I love assault,besieged and levelling BLU a bit. But I seriously wonder how much better ffxi could become if they listened to the non-ZAM non-KI playerbase a little more.

I guess we all had a high expectation since the release of toau for the progression of the game and this update kinda ruined it a bit.

my 0.2c

Sorry for spelling errors.

[Shir]

The only thing this update lacks is a Sealed Door. But, there's still the chance we'll get one when the storyline is continued in a week or so.

Found a sealed door in Walahra Temple.

Do I win?

[Siatdiat]

i liked the update




(Maybe because i have 75 drk 75thf and my pharpe got pimped)

This is true. It was nice to see alot of happy and excited thf and drk yesterday. Im interested in meriting up Killer instinct myself on bst, and see how useful it is.

[Janice]

This has to be the worst list of new items that have come out. Cerberus at least dropped decent stuff (not the best, but useful items). And what makes it worse is that they added a bunch of NMs and its still the worst list of new items.

Areas have been made more annoying. There are 3 hours blocks where you can't enter Al Zhabi. The assault update is a letdown. Basically all there is are new missions that don't result in anything other than getting rank up. No new items for purchase, doesn't look like any great stuff from ??? items that could drop from the assaults (horrible drop rate anyways).

[Iku]

Websense owns me on 99% of the FFXI sites so I can't look up stats for most items in the game.

How the hell you get Websense if you can log on to FFXI?

W T F................. What FOB?

[Norelco]

Websense owns me on 99% of the FFXI sites so I can't look up stats for most items in the game.

How the hell you get Websense if you can log on to FFXI?

W T F................. What FOB?

I mean I have Websense at work, where I am now. I play FFXI at home.

[Kross]

we tend to forget about the little things about FFXI that matter the most.

First of all the community is prolly the best throughout all MMOs. Secondly the universe of FFXI is without equal, it's the only game where I actually feel like I'm somewhere else, and playing with RL friends is so badass.

Whatever SE does, whatever expansions/updates that come out, there's no question that ppl will be pissed; you can't please everyone...

FFXI still remains a complex and very precise game, and that is why ppl still play it.

[Delekii]

I dont know about everyone else, but I found the update extremely fulfilling, and there is still more to come.

Sure, Hydra doesnt drop good gear, but the fight is hella fun.

Sure, Besieged is fucked at the moment, but it will all be leveled out - SE has already shown they are willing to adjust besieged if it isnt working right.



People have overly high expectations. A lot of the new merits are fucking powerful, even if they cost a lot of extra merits to get. Everything you can get in the new merits, stacks with everything already in the game. Sure, ShellV is "only" 3MDB more than ShellIV at best - but that is 3MDB you cant get anywhere else. What were you expecting? The content that is currently in the game still has to offer SOME kind of challenge, even if it is not much of one. Not to mention, the setup of the new merits is so arbitrary in its 20 minute recast, meritable to 15 minute recast, it screams for rebalance in the near future.

So what if ISNM drops have sent their respective markets to shit? Guess what - ISNM is fun as hell. It doesnt take 5 hours to walk to the top of Fort Ghelsba, it isnt fucking hard, the fights are somewhat interesting and somewhat quick. They will be tweaked in the future.


Quitting over the update? Are you fucking crazy?

It just seems to me that people have ridiculous expectations of what SE is going to do with the game. They just added about.. what... 50 new abilities to the game, the majority of which are atleast SOMEWHAT useful regardless of what people say, is a very big update. If you want more, well.... havent you been playing this game for the last 3 years? Have you been living under a rock or what?

I guess Im somewhat Biased, my jobs are BLM WHM BST COR BRD and soon to come RDM. All 6 jobs have extremely useful merits. BLM gets access to single target spells that do more damage than ga3 for less mp - hello increased epeen. WHM gets access to an INCREDIBLY powerful tool for a PLD tank pt in the way of devotion, basically offering a 15 minute mp benediction which can be absorbed by the WHM stoneskin, as well as another tier of protect and shell which, although not overly stronger, are STILL THE BEST PRO AND SHELL IN THE GAME. BST with af2 gloves can arguably bring funguar pets up to the low 70's in level now, along with a slightly useless but definately fun terrorise ability. COR gets random deal and phantom roll time down, what more could I ask for? And finally, although missworded in the description, any bard who actually thought SE would give them soul voice on a 20 minute timer was deluded in the first place. Troubadour is still moderately useful, and Nightingale is very useful. Not to mention, emnity songs people have been asking for since the dawn of time. And finally, RDM gets access to the very powerful slow 2, as well as a sleuth of as yet somewhat untested and moderately powerful buffs and debuffs.

Im not sure what people are whinging about. My job choices cover 1/3 of the possible jobs in this game, and I am happy with the new merit choices for every single one of them.

[epigram]

If you were really into e-peen and monopolizing HNM this update horribly failed.

If you were into having a good time with your friends, it has been great (except for drgs).


It's nice to be in camp 2.

[rahvin]

This thread is incredibly stupid.

"ZOMG! I didn't get what I wanted in the update! WAHHHHHHHHHHHH! I'm quitting!"

Bye jerks.

Learn to read.

Learn to comprehend. Your question is worthless. If any of your friends quit the game as a result of this update then you:

a.) have incredibly stupid friends
b.) must be stupid yourself

So, with that said, re-read.

actually you yourself are

1. incredibly stupid
2. cant read and still incredibly stupid

he asked how many ppl are quiting as a result of the update, not that he is quiting. by your first post in a lame ass attept to flame, you implyed that the OP was complaining about the update and was going to quit when he was simply asking a question. You sir are an ass.

Why dont you go out and shave a few faces and leave the critical thinking up to the adults boy...

[Raineer]

I can understand people's positions on the update. In a way, the update was very unlike SE, but in some ways too much like them.

Giving new JA's and meritables to jobs was a big step out of their comfort zone, some jobs got real boosts from this one. The THF/dagger thing was completely unforeseen (at least I sure as hell didn't expect it). They finally made one of the relics worthwhile, I think I read one of Wafik's post where even TP'ing he's pulling hate off the tank which is how a goddamn relic should be, every one of them.

However fafnir and nidhogg are just replaced by others now, now there's hydra along with cerberus. No wait, that's in addition to fafhogg. You still can't stop camping him unless you're maxed on Ridills, which few LS's are lucky enough to be. RDM got tier 2 enfeebles, which is a boost I guess but I never had any problems landing stuff (unless it's lolsea or gods), so now it's just a way to even out those that didn't get AF2 hat/etc, they can just merit into one.

idk when I'll actually cancel my account but FFXI has just grown too long in the tooth for me. It's so time demanding it's ridiculous. Nothing great is instanced still, it's all about waiting around and then rushing to something that pops (which btw someone has to pay for another account just to know when it pops), none of this crazy "playing on your own time" shit. God forbid you want to do endgame and level another job, Tiamats know just when you got to Crawler's Nest and is guaranteed to pop right as you eat your first food. Sorry SE, I like my time too much, hi2u WoW :/

[Janice]

It just seems to me that people have ridiculous expectations of what SE is going to do with the game. They just added about.. what... 50 new abilities to the game, the majority of which are atleast SOMEWHAT useful regardless of what people say, is a very big update. If you want more, well.... havent you been playing this game for the last 3 years? Have you been living under a rock or what?

For me I actually thought it would be different this time. When CoP came out, I was excited too. But about a week after it came out, I basically went back to what I was doing before (not really that much stuff to do).

When ToAU came out, I was expecting CoP again with not much to do. 3 months later, I'm pretty much doing almost all ToAU stuff. So I expected more from the update. I expected HNMs that built on Cerberus (useful drops that had a good drop rate). I expected a few more items added to assaults. I expected more because the last 3 months were the best 3 months for FFXI ever. But with this update, everything besides the merits, is the same old same old from SE.

[Gimli]

This has to be the worst list of new items that have come out. Cerberus at least dropped decent stuff (not the best, but useful items).

gtfo

PS I'm TROLLIN' LAWL www

[Suiram]

I'm generally optimistic about content in FFXI, but Delekii has to be the most anti-SE pessimist on Pandemonium. If he likes the update, it can't be that bad.

Anyhow, I personally like the Assault update. Even if there are no new items you can purchase with AP, it should at least make it faster to farm points for Mamool Training Grounds if you don't cheat. And each rank you go up, I think you get another hour of Sanction before it wears off when Al Zahbi has the AC.

The only thing I don't like are the mirror guards. Truesight + unsleepable + always up since nobody really cares about Besieged beyond smacking a few mobs or casting shell on a few NPCs and then AFKing until they get their 700 IS. Although, they apparently don't despawn when hate is reset, so I'd probably like those too if I was into MPK.