How many people quitting?

[Russta]

I'm quite enjoying the patch right now but that's because I've not done much but level Blue Mage since it was released. I started my new set on Monday knowing that in our downtime and around linkshell events I can do ISBC's, earn my AF, earn some merits etc..

[Talus]

I'm not in a shell called ShortBus. I'm the shellholder.

[Edit: No, I don't take people seriously or literally on the internet because a lot of the things people say on the internet they don't have the balls to say in real life.]

[Shuemue]

I'm not in a shell called ShortBus. I'm the shellholder.

[Edit: No, I don't take people seriously or literally on the internet because a lot of the things people say on the internet they don't have the balls to say in real life.]

Okay. You're a twat. I'd say that RL too.

[Talus]

Sure you would. I'd probably laugh in your face though for calling me a twat since no one says that.

[Shuemue]

Sure you would. I'd probably laugh in your face though for calling me a twat since no one says that.

They do in the UK. And if you laughed, I'd probably have my forehead get intimate with your nose.

GO GO eTHUG!

[Talus]

I surrender, I did not know you had a black belt in thug-jitsu.

(Please forgive me.)

[Shuemue]

I'm English. We are the world's foremost exponents in thuggery.

[Feep]

If you'd quit over this update, you're obviously one of those hypocrites who whines and bitches over every move SE makes and every problem in FFXI, but continues to pay them your twelve-whatever a month.

Be a man and f**king quit, already.

[Anyway]

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[Ksandra]

HNM endgame is definitely broken imo and SE refuses to see it. There's no reason that after a year and a half of trying to get one item off of one hnm that there's no other option for me from other mobs. No gear compares to half the stuff the old kings give. And the new kings aren't giving anything to hot to be replacements.

Like others said, if youre not into the hnm thing they're giving people a lot of things to do. Which is good thing becuase not everyone should have to do hnms in this game. The problem is they aren't fixing hnming at all, and for those like myself who wanted a piece or too off of hnms it's really killing the enjoyment out of the game.


So ya it's probably back to WoW for me when they finally release their expansion. At least then I can be a pretty elf and my bf will be happy staying on the horde side. XD

[Ryany]

Arent there lockouts on the endgame instances in WoW too? Im sure I remember reading like 5 day lockouts and crap like that?...

Most are on a 7-day timer, but you can attempt a boss you are cleared to within an instance as many times as you want to over the course of that week until you kill it. I do believe that most linkshells in FFXI would take a cap of 1 of each boss per week in a heartbeat in exchange for actually being able to fight every boss in the game each week without camping anything.

I’m sure something like that would kill a lot of the drama though because you wouldn’t get to read about botters accusing botters of botting.

[Siatdiat]

WoW drama is based on talking shit about other guilds pvp skills. Or fighting over a world spawn on pvp servers ;o

[Ohemgee]

I'm quitting in a week for school and shit.

(again)

[Vedder]

HNM endgame is definitely broken imo and SE refuses to see it. There's no reason that after a year and a half of trying to get one item off of one hnm that there's no other option for me from other mobs. No gear compares to half the stuff the old kings give. And the new kings aren't giving anything to hot to be replacements.

Like others said, if youre not into the hnm thing they're giving people a lot of things to do. Which is good thing becuase not everyone should have to do hnms in this game. The problem is they aren't fixing hnming at all, and for those like myself who wanted a piece or too off of hnms it's really killing the enjoyment out of the game.

Maybe I am being optimistic... but I can't help but think that SE might have some changes in store down the line that might be better for end game players. They've already included some rare/valuable items as rewards for Assault and now they've included some other different rare items for the ISBCs.

Perhaps there's more to come down the line... like Abjs from the highest level Assaults (once they are released) or expanding of the ISBCs to include more with varying drops/rewards. IIRC, the BCNM format wasn't comphrensively released in one patch... so perhaps this other stuff is coming.

/gasp... they might even release something better than abjuration gear.

It seems a little unrealistic for SE to "blow their wad" on all this stuff up front... though I understand how eager and impatient it makes everyone.

[Garret]

Maybe I am being optimistic... but I can't help but think that SE might have some changes in store down the line that might be better for end game players. They've already included some rare/valuable items as rewards for Assault and now they've included some other different rare items for the ISBCs.

Perhaps there's more to come down the line... like Abjs from the highest level Assaults (once they are released) or expanding of the ISBCs to include more with varying drops/rewards. IIRC, the BCNM format wasn't comphrensively released in one patch... so perhaps this other stuff is coming.

/gasp... they might even release something better than abjuration gear.

It seems a little unrealistic for SE to "blow their wad" on all this stuff up front... though I understand how eager and impatient it makes everyone.

Isn't this what people keep saying every time a patch comes out which fails to deliver any meaningful HNM content?

[layoneil]

Isn't this what people keep saying every time a patch comes out which fails to deliver any meaningful HNM content?

yea, and those are the people who end up quitting after the next patch too. because they were overly optimistic and than didn't get what they thought would be coming later.

[Ohemgee]

HNM endgame is definitely broken imo and SE refuses to see it. There's no reason that after a year and a half of trying to get one item off of one hnm that there's no other option for me from other mobs. No gear compares to half the stuff the old kings give. And the new kings aren't giving anything to hot to be replacements.

Like others said, if youre not into the hnm thing they're giving people a lot of things to do. Which is good thing becuase not everyone should have to do hnms in this game. The problem is they aren't fixing hnming at all, and for those like myself who wanted a piece or too off of hnms it's really killing the enjoyment out of the game.

Maybe I am being optimistic... but I can't help but think that SE might have some changes in store down the line that might be better for end game players. They've already included some rare/valuable items as rewards for Assault and now they've included some other different rare items for the ISBCs.

Perhaps there's more to come down the line... like Abjs from the highest level Assaults (once they are released) or expanding of the ISBCs to include more with varying drops/rewards. IIRC, the BCNM format wasn't comphrensively released in one patch... so perhaps this other stuff is coming.

/gasp... they might even release something better than abjuration gear.

It seems a little unrealistic for SE to "blow their wad" on all this stuff up front... though I understand how eager and impatient it makes everyone.

FFXI isnt about optimism

[Jeryhn]

I don't see why people would quit over a bunch of new job specific merits.

Merits have always been very very marginal increases into categories of the player's choosing. People who were expecting the new job specific merits to fundamentally change the way their job is played, instead of provide small gimmicky JAs or small increases, are kidding themselves.

Who cares if Hydra's drops are useless? Drops from about 90% of the game NMs are useless. Hello Cerberus Meat. Sup Oxblood. And when was the last time you camped Helldiver for a Buburimu Gorget? Hydra is a pretty cool and interesting fight if nothing else, and it's nice for newer LSes to have more "practice" HNMs that aren't monopolized by the RMT, that coincidently you pay 7 mil to buy one of their Serket Rings off the AH. It's also nice to have a new HNM added to the game that I don't have to rush along with the 6 or 7 others I have to rush to get the claim.

[Cephius]

I don't see why people would quit over a bunch of new job specific merits.

Merits have always been very very marginal increases into categories of the player's choosing. People who were expecting the new job specific merits to fundamentally change the way their job is played, instead of provide small gimmicky JAs or small increases, are kidding themselves.

Who cares if Hydra's drops are useless? Drops from about 90% of the game NMs are useless. Hello Cerberus Meat. Sup Oxblood. And when was the last time you camped Helldiver for a Buburimu Gorget? Hydra is a pretty cool and interesting fight if nothing else, and it's nice for newer LSes to have more "practice" HNMs that aren't monopolized by the RMT, that coincidently you pay 7 mil to buy one of their Serket Rings off the AH. It's also nice to have a new HNM added to the game that I don't have to rush along with the 6 or 7 others I have to rush to get the claim.

About 2 weeks ago... 0/2 then i just bought it off the AH for 100k gg fire resist!

[aurik]

I don't see why people would quit over a bunch of new job specific merits.

Merits have always been very very marginal increases into categories of the player's choosing. People who were expecting the new job specific merits to fundamentally change the way their job is played, instead of provide small gimmicky JAs or small increases, are kidding themselves.

Who cares if Hydra's drops are useless? Drops from about 90% of the game NMs are useless. Hello Cerberus Meat. Sup Oxblood. And when was the last time you camped Helldiver for a Buburimu Gorget? Hydra is a pretty cool and interesting fight if nothing else, and it's nice for newer LSes to have more "practice" HNMs that aren't monopolized by the RMT, that coincidently you pay 7 mil to buy one of their Serket Rings off the AH. It's also nice to have a new HNM added to the game that I don't have to rush along with the 6 or 7 others I have to rush to get the claim.

So you're saying:
- it's good that the merits are gimmicky because this way they do not provide a greater significant benefit for time spent earning them over other merits
- it's good that new HNMs don't drop good things so that you can enjoy killing it in peace

Am I the only one that thinks both of these justifications are the tail wagging the dog?