How many people quitting?

[Sixtail]

Fuck you. I pay 15 bucks a month -- I have every right to expect a great game.

You also have a right to QUIT the game if you don't get what you expect. If you're sticking around expecting SE to make things better, then it sounds like you're making excuses for yourself to stick around.

So what's stopping you?

** edited for spelling/grammar

It's stupid how every legitimate complain about this game is met with "why won't you quit?"

I'm sure the CoP dev team would love to have a dumbshit like you working for them.

Your claim "I pay 15 bucks a month damnit, I demand goodness." is stupid. You pay 15 bucks for the right to log on to the game. SE doesn't have to deliver a damn thing outside of that. Your 15 bucks a month does
not put SE at your beck and call.

[jiang]

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The new and improved tahngarthor.

[Jeryhn]

It's getting to the point where I think some people just like to complain for the sake of complaining.

Bingo.

[Sixtail]

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With 30% more lolmeleegalkasmn goodness.

[Norelco]

It's stupid how every legitimate complain about this game is met with "why won't you quit?"

Actually, no it's not. If every person who had a legitimate complaint about the game quit, SE might actually wake up after they see their subscription base go down. So why don't you kick start this beeeyatch?

[Charla]

Whatever happened to "this patch is made of win, win and more win"?

the uselessness of 15 minute recast abilities happened. the abilities are mostly good, but this game doesn't function in 10-20 minute blocks, normal mobs are killed around 60 seconds. a regular XP chain ends in less than 10 minutes.

Flash II for PLD would be made of win on patch notes, till you actually log in and see that it costs 200 MP to cast. that's what happened to this patch.

Did everyone really expect to break the Ulli monopoly?

most people didn't expect any change, than they made a change that was useless.

i think it would've been better if they didn't make any change.

if they left it alone, they would come off as assholes that don't listen to people. now they are stupid assholes that don't understand what people are saying after you tried listening to them.

the change simply proves how out of touch they are, how they have no understanding what the true problem is.

Not all the merits even have recast timers in the first place. I'm pretty sure bsts are happy with their affinity thingy, and rdms are only slightly disappointed at their shiny new debuffs. If I knew any drgs that took angon they'd probably appreciate it too. True, most of the jobs didnt get anything that would make a difference in most situations. My troubadour was very useful in limbus last night only because we happened to get 7 hp chests and I got double the soul voice out of them.

SE might be out of touch with our problems (namely kings), or they might simply disagree with us as to the intent of endgame loot. If level 75 is the final limit, then armada hauberk might be the final limit in a similar sense, and anything better than that would simply violate a 2-year-old design decision. Without rethinking the design, merits and berserker's torque might be the best they can do for the endgame.

[Sixtail]

Thanks jeryhn for giving me a new sig quote.
But this patch is still good. Its been one day, give it a bit of time, and actually do fun stuff. Fight hydra a couple times because its fun. Do assaults for fun and sanction duration.

Remember: At the end of the day, what matters is not the items you got but the experiences you had. ToAU is FUN.

Sadly Max, for a lot of people, bling and epenis stroking are fun. Being able to slow walk around Jueno/Whitegate in your new e-penis+1 is fun. That is why FFXI lets people down, because their will never be a neverending supply of e-penis boosters.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

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Oh my god

[epigram]

He should save his currency for a relic frame :/ It might actually be useful.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

Thanks jeryhn for giving me a new sig quote.
But this patch is still good. Its been one day, give it a bit of time, and actually do fun stuff. Fight hydra a couple times because its fun. Do assaults for fun and sanction duration.

Remember: At the end of the day, what matters is not the items you got but the experiences you had. ToAU is FUN.

Sadly Max, for a lot of people, bling and epenis stroking are fun. Being able to slow walk around Jueno/Whitegate in your new e-penis+1 is fun. That is why FFXI lets people down, because their will never be a neverending supply of e-penis boosters.

I would think 'no pvp' would be obvious enough that this game sucks for epeen.

[Jeryhn]

He should save his currency for a relic frame :/ It might actually be useful.

If I recall correctly, he's already spent his currency and gotten a Dynamis staff.

[Demetrios]

Bullshit, if you count just the end game linkshells on the Cerberus servers (YF, IonStorm, Dynasty, WW, Cato, LoveNeko, Highpower, Nyanchi) that's at least 400-450 people, and that's probably undershooting it. The end game community isn't a small block. It's divided for sure, but a good part of the level 75s move into this group at one point or another during thier time in FFXI. The simple addition of tier 2 abjurations would be enough progression to content people for another fucking year and a half even if there were no other item additions.

Yet we get Hydra armor. I don't even see why they bothered to add it unless they're getting sadistic pleasure out of watching end game bitch. The mere addition of an upgrade to gavial (an armor which is NEVER used) shows their utter disconnect from what is useful in their own damn game.

[Janice]

I liked the update myself. I'm laughing at the emosmns (ZOMG THIS UPDATE IS SHIT, I DON'T MATCH A BLM?! FUCK YOU SE). I like hydra, yeah loot is meh, but are you people seriously bitching about having one less thing to camp? You know if the wyrms, Hydra and whatnot all dropped the Abjs and shit everyone is demanding, instead of one LS controling everything, you'd have 2, maybe three..and that's debateable when you've got 50-60 man LS's.

This is an example of a delusional person. 'Hey! You guys should be happy Hydra drops suck, you don't have to camp it'

You know what would fix this game? Fights like Ouryu and Bahamut. You get an item from doing something and your LS does an instanced fight. Lots of them, and lot of different strats for winning them. Oh yeah, and good loot from them. Not Bahamut's scythe.

Fuck have 18 of them, one that drops crap for each job in the game instead of giving DRG yet another JSE to wear.

[Sixtail]

He should save his currency for a relic frame :/ It might actually be useful.

If I recall correctly, he's already spent his currency and gotten a Dynamis staff.

I'm sure as more people learn of his amazing leetness, they will be quick to welcome him to display just what that money went to.

lawl, only the poor saps who so badly want some cures they let him join..oh wait, he doesn't heal, nm.

[layoneil]

I think everyone in the eat/sleep/breath category has burnt out and quit, failed out of school, or lost their jobs; few people have the luxury of playing eight hours a day. In case you didn't notice, there is no real hardcore end-game in ffxi, it's not the way the game was designed. Hardcore HNM content services such a small demographic in this game that SE instead has decided to put its development into side games and other similar content.

As much as people here don't want to admit it, the Zam crowd is the greatest paying body in the ffxi community. It would be stupid for SE to not cater towards this group.

but what they're doing doesn't support what you're saying. if what you're saying is true, they should obsolete the hardcore end-game completely.

obsolete all of Sky and Dragon's Aery, put similar items in ENMs, Assaults and ISBCs.

they are leaving the best stuff in the hardcore content which makes people stuck there. if they are going to make hardcore content they should make it good. if they are going to get away from hardcore content, obsolete the 3 year old stuff so everybody can move on to the new stuff.

right now they are trying to do both and doing very poor job at appeasing the hardcore contingent.

They're hooked on FFXI, but they'd rather focus on why they'd rather quit the game than the reasons they are STILL here.

that's what most of the topics are about, the faults of this and that. that sparks more discussion than singing praises, it's why you hear about every athlete that gets arrested but you don't hear about every donation to charity they make.

[Sixtail]

I liked the update myself. I'm laughing at the emosmns (ZOMG THIS UPDATE IS SHIT, I DON'T MATCH A BLM?! FUCK YOU SE). I like hydra, yeah loot is meh, but are you people seriously bitching about having one less thing to camp? You know if the wyrms, Hydra and whatnot all dropped the Abjs and shit everyone is demanding, instead of one LS controling everything, you'd have 2, maybe three..and that's debateable when you've got 50-60 man LS's.

This is an example of a delusional person. 'Hey! You guys should be happy Hydra drops suck, you don't have to camp it'

You know what would fix this game? Fights like Ouryu and Bahamut. You get an item from doing something and your LS does an instanced fight. Lots of them, and lot of different strats for winning them. Oh yeah, and good loot from them. Not Bahamut's scythe.

Fuck have 18 of them, one that drops crap for each job in the game instead of giving DRG yet another JSE to wear.

No, I'm not delusional. I like the fight, the drops mean nothing to me. I'm a full time SMN. If I only faught shit that did stuff for me and my e-penis, I'd be in Dynamis full time or B2.

[Norelco]

Bullshit, if you count just the end game linkshells on the Cerberus servers (YF, IonStorm, Dynasty, WW, Cato, LoveNeko, Highpower, Nyanchi) that's at least 400-450 people, and that's probably undershooting it. The end game community isn't a small block. It's divided for sure, but a good part of the level 75s move into this group at one point or another during thier time in FFXI. The simple addition of tier 2 abjurations would be enough progression to content people for another fucking year and a half even if there were no other item additions.

Yet we get Hydra armor. I don't even see why they bothered to add it unless they're getting sadistic pleasure out of watching end game bitch. The mere addition of an upgrade to gavial (an armor which is NEVER used) shows their utter disconnect from what is useful in their own damn game.

SE can't help it if the people who play almost 24/7 blow through the content faster than they can deliver it. What happens when people get their tier 2 abjurations? Wouldn't they start bitching how they want tier 3 abjurations?

Established linkshells on Asura, and I'm sure every other server, are STILL busy getting their members 2nd and 3rd jobs abjurations while the less experienced shells are fighting for table scraps.

You can introduce more endgame bling but shells like these won't stop camping kings. They're too into the drama and the "thrill of the hunt."

[stollio]

As much as people here don't want to admit it, the Zam crowd is the greatest paying body in the ffxi community. It would be stupid for SE to not cater towards this group.

Even a big portion of the Zam crowd has a lvl 75 job now. They have sky to keep them happy (and endlessly busy with their lvl of skill and organization). They're enjoying one of the best parts of endgame. The rest of us are scratching our heads when the newest endgame challenge (hydra) drops gear that I wouldn't put on one of my mannequins. People need stuff to work for. This update delivered that on merits, but you can cap out your new merits in a week easy. Now you can wait 2 more months to hope ( possibly in vain) for another chance at an NM that will drop some useful new gear.

Don't get me wrong, I'll still be sitting like a rat at the feeder bar for the next 2 months, but the pellets are leaving a bad taste in my mouth.

[DeadLegend]

I like the 2 page long fistfight debating Decent E body and Excellent A body while Martial Body was nowhere to be found on the chart lol

I have no problems with this update because I have no positive expectations, I am very happy with Chivalry and Burst II (and I will soon pick up Guardian). What we have now is more than we had before, and many of these abilities when merited and used together (sup Shikikoyo->Chivalry->Devotion, sup Sentinel merits->Guardian->Foe Sirvente) can work wonders.

lolmeleegalkapup

[layoneil]

SE can't help it if the people who play almost 24/7 blow through the content faster than they can deliver it. What happens when people get their tier 2 abjurations? Wouldn't they start bitching how they want tier 3 abjurations?

how is that even a problem though? if they can't come up with a new set of gear in 2 years, they need to get out of the design business.

You can introduce more endgame bling but shells like these won't stop camping kings. They're too into the drama and the "thrill of the hunt."

they'll stop if the same crap drops in KS99, or Tiamat or Vrtra or Ouryu or Bahamut's Zaghnal had 80 DMG and made every player without a Ridill quit sitting in DA and level DRK.

Even a big portion of the Zam crowd has a lvl 75 job now. They have sky to keep them happy

don't forget about that little problem with Ulli they failed to fix.

*misquote >.>