Windower Patch @ Aprox. 10 PM Tonight

[Kimiko]

From windower site

The issue that is causing Windower 3.22 to crash has been isolated and resolved, and the Windower 3.23 update should be released sometime after 10PM EST tonight. This version will not contain any of the new features that are under development, but it will contain several bugfixes in addition to the major fix for the NPC chat crash. Please check back later for a link.

[TsingTao]

*reads post*

Excuse me, I need to go touch myself.

[Jeryhn]

I predict the Windower website to melt down like it did last time.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

A winner is cliff

[solsovly]

A winner is cliff

Seriously, I <3 Cliff. Not only is windower essential for my FFXI experience, but he's helping the Mother 3 Translation team. In addition, I don't even think Cliff even plays FFXI much anymore?

I shall <3 him till the end of time*


*end of time or when he secretly puts keyloggers into windower, gaining access to 90% of the PC playerbase and IGE'ing every single account for millions

[Mekami]

A winner is cliff

*end of time or when he secretly puts keyloggers into windower, gaining access to 90% of the PC playerbase and IGE'ing every single account for millions

Haha, that'd be too funny.

[Ferien]

>.> good thing I have my password saved

[Mifaco]

A winner is cliff

Oh, is this the same "winner" that promises features but then never delivers them and leaves the NA playerbase plagued with annoying bugs (hi2u autotranslator), all the while leaving everyone with no clue that he's actually quit the game and hates FFXI?

Yes, he's a "winner" indeed.

[draxyl]

Way to be a negative Nancy...

If you don't like cliff or his windower, go download the JP version and quit
bitching.

[Machazareel]

A winner is cliff

Oh, is this the same "winner" that promises features but then never delivers them and leaves the NA playerbase plagued with annoying bugs (hi2u autotranslator), all the while leaving everyone with no clue that he's actually quit the game and hates FFXI?

Yes, he's a "winner" indeed.

He's doing all this for free, with no actual benefit for himself. Don't bitch.

It's like a hobo throwing a free sandwich at someone's face because the turkey was a little dry.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

A winner is cliff

Oh, is this the same "winner" that promises features but then never delivers them and leaves the NA playerbase plagued with annoying bugs (hi2u autotranslator), all the while leaving everyone with no clue that he's actually quit the game and hates FFXI?

Yes, he's a "winner" indeed.

Yes. None of the bugs are unplayable (the autotranslator one only happens when you dc. Just restart FFXI and its fine.) You can only expect so much for one person, and you cant expect him to stay playing one game forever.

[Jeryhn]

I still don't know why another guy can make a 3rd party program that keeps track of my Bloodpact timer along with every other ability in the game, and BloodPace is still beneath any developer's time (but they got WarPace up and running yessiree). Moreover, these same developers suggest downloading another 3rd party program after touting that their own is very secure, and warning against the use of other programs.

If I wanted to clutter my window with a bunch of garbage, I'd download FFAssist. I liked my small insignificant countdown at the top of my screen thank-you-very-much.

[Jeryhn]

Yes. None of the bugs are unplayable (the autotranslator one only happens when you dc. Just restart FFXI and its fine.) You can only expect so much for one person, and you cant expect him to stay playing one game forever.

The problem is easily solved by opening the source to someone willing to update Windower or the plugins for it. Or hell, even improve upon it.

[layoneil]

because the original developers quit the game and don't really give a crap anymore on developing new plugins.

and they had some issue with letting out the code for everyone to hack the game to hell.

[Jeryhn]

because the original developers quit the game and don't really give a crap anymore on developing new plugins.

See above.

and they had some issue with letting out the code for everyone to hack the game to hell.

So give the code to someone who can be trusted.

If someone was good enough to write hacks for the game, changes are they're good enough to create their own windowed mode for FFXI to accomodate their hacking programs. I fail to see how being anti-open-source will prevent hacking.

[layoneil]

So give the code to someone who can be trusted.

want to give me your account info?

it's not that easy

[Dezzimal]

They won't release the source code because that would make it /incredibly/ easy to create new bots/cheats etc. Not that it isn't already easy to get your hands on something like that.

Cliff does have several other people with access to the source code. Jason, one of them, trimmed it down and made windower-lite for guilt-free windowing.

[Khamsin]

So give the code to someone who can be trusted.

want to give me your account info?

it's not that easy

It's very easy to give someone your account info. Just visit http://www.trojanskeyloggersandbeyond.com/mrargus.zip and before you know it, you won't care at all who has your account info.

[Mifaco]

Yes. None of the bugs are unplayable (the autotranslator one only happens when you dc. Just restart FFXI and its fine.) You can only expect so much for one person, and you cant expect him to stay playing one game forever.

I do expect him to tell the playerbase if he's killing off Windower, instead of leaving everyone wondering if he'll ever fix those bugs associated with the ToAU release.

I still don't know why another guy can make a 3rd party program that keeps track of my Bloodpact timer along with every other ability in the game, and BloodPace is still beneath any developer's time (but they got WarPace up and running yessiree). Moreover, these same developers suggest downloading another 3rd party program after touting that their own is very secure, and warning against the use of other programs.

It's not just BloodPace - these developers just can't be halfassed to update their own plugins. Expwatch still can't show limit chains. AFAIK all these plugins were written for an API that was never publicly released.

[Sonomaa]

get zerocast, its a recast timer for everything and it works perfectly