Formless strikes..

[Elcura]

[quote=Tom Chambers]

I'd like to think that Tilo Just annoying that when I post anything on these boards, important or not, the following post is someone riding on the banbus.

Because half of FFXI players (and the majority of those heavy into endgame) are social freakswho, instead of being interesting and charismatic in their own right, latch onto catchphrases and play them out trying to look cool.

Hence, half of all posts on BG are one of the following:

A) IBTL

B) Ban (this used to be showing a picture of a kinda funny kunocard, but that got beaten into the ground so badly even these mouth-breathers could sense it)

C) lolsomething. Why saying lolfollowedbysomethingwithoutaspacebarisfunnyisbey ondmebutitswhattheydo, and goddamn it, they're gonna keep doing it even after all the humor is gone.

or

D) 'Win', 'Made of win', 'full of win', whatever. Again, the first time is witty and cool, but if you've been using win predominately as a noun for several months, something is wrong with you.

So, Beave, don't blame youself. You're actually kinda funny, that and whoever recently said "Enhance your calm John Spartan". Most everyone else recycles old internet jokes that usually weren't even that funny the first time. But you can't really blame them- if they were charming and funny they probably wouldn't be spending their Friday nights picking on someone on a messageboard, huh?

Anyone find this ironic coming from Tom?

When I make fun of people, it's not using tired old jokes pulled from 4chan (3chan? whatever it is) and ymtds and shit.[/quote:5a53b]

Tom makes fun of people? I thought you just had an irremovable stick up your ass. The last thing YOU did was flip out like a little girl about Nynja some threads ago.

[Genosync]

Tom makes fun of people? I thought you just had an irremovable stick up your ass. The last thing YOU did was flip out like a little girl about Nynja some threads ago.

But don't ya know, that's the cool thing to do?

Everyone's supposed to get mad and flip out on Nynja like a little girl, geez.

[Devek]

With 700 attack and 102 strength I do LESS damage on Genbu with Formless Strikes than without.

Data for Genbu with 50 DMG. (299 h2h + Destroyers)

Formless strikes:
34, 27, 28, 30, 21, 67 crit, 18, 37 crit, 44 crit, 12, 11, 30, 10, 37, 55 crit, 49 crit, 18, 28, 22, 31, 16, 17, 41, 9, 35 crit, 42 crit, 43 crit, 35 crit, 35 crit, 9, 14, 41 crit, 20, 13, 4, 0, 16, 2, 0, 1, 28, 11, 0, 35, 12, 11, 17.

Melee: 16, 79 crit, 3, 19, 22, 0, 0, 18, 63 crit, 61 crit, 45, 27, 24, 35, 44, 363 asuran fist(300tp), 32, 34, 35, 44 crit, 4, 46 crit, 29, 28, 44 crit, 28, 37, 37, 27, 38, 34, 31, 31, 14, 31, 37, 13, (defense boost) 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 15, 43 asuran fist, 0, 18.

[NynJa]

All you show though is damage numbers. How about some accuracy numbers ?? Perhaps you could compare Formless Strikes with 700 attack to Formless Strikes with 350 attack, or whatever.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

It doesnt change damage calculations, just changes damage type and reduces damage by 25%. Blunt actually has a 10% bonus on turtles (tested with weapon bash).

[Devek]

It doesnt change damage calculations, just changes damage type and reduces damage by 25%. Blunt actually has a 10% bonus on turtles (tested with weapon bash).

My experience on even match elementals would disagree with that... with meat+berserk+minuet I appear to do the same damage as without. If it was a simple -25% damage reduction I would hit harder than an average of 60.

I think the biggest(possibly only) factor in formless strikes is the level of the mob IMHO.

[Awoir]

With 700 attack and 102 strength I do LESS damage on Genbu with Formless Strikes than without.

Data for Genbu with 50 DMG. (299 h2h + Destroyers)

Formless strikes:
34, 27, 28, 30, 21, 67 crit, 18, 37 crit, 44 crit, 12, 11, 30, 10, 37, 55 crit, 49 crit, 18, 28, 22, 31, 16, 17, 41, 9, 35 crit, 42 crit, 43 crit, 35 crit, 35 crit, 9, 14, 41 crit, 20, 13, 4, 0, 16, 2, 0, 1, 28, 11, 0, 35, 12, 11, 17.

Melee: 16, 79 crit, 3, 19, 22, 0, 0, 18, 63 crit, 61 crit, 45, 27, 24, 35, 44, 363 asuran fist(300tp), 32, 34, 35, 44 crit, 4, 46 crit, 29, 28, 44 crit, 28, 37, 37, 27, 38, 34, 31, 31, 14, 31, 37, 13, (defense boost) 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 15, 43 asuran fist, 0, 18.

Just a peeve, Destroyers are D49, not 50. SE made it so MNKs can't get that last 1 skill point needed to get D50 =(
(2 base + [299/10(Floored)=29] + 18 = 49)

[Dalek]

Speaking of irony...

Formless strikes would have been nice to have when a Monk and I were killing Sewer Syrup.

Btw, you mentioned killing elementals..I was under the impression formless strikes only worked on notorious monsters?

What the fuck does an attack being magical have to do with NMs. Just shut up and lurk damnit.

Spammer who got his first account on these forums (unanimously)banned telling someone ELSE to stop posting?

WE HAVE A WINNER

Keep posting Beave.

[Devek]

Just a peeve, Destroyers are D49, not 50. SE made it so MNKs can't get that last 1 skill point needed to get D50 =(
(2 base + [299/10(Floored)=29] + 18 = 49)

So Studio Gobli's little java app is wrong?

http://ffxi.killvoid.com/page.php?id=737 says a 50 DMG weapon max crit hits for 189 which I do.

http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/5861/189rm1.png

[Dryhus]

Thought it was 3 base.

[Awoir]

Thought it was 3 base.

Yea, it is, my bad =X! Guess Destroyers are D50 o_o

[NynJa]

Just a peeve, Destroyers are D49, not 50. SE made it so MNKs can't get that last 1 skill point needed to get D50 =(
(2 base + [299/10(Floored)=29] + 18 = 49)

So Studio Gobli's little java app is wrong?

http://<b><font size="7">ffxi.killvo...age.php?id=737 says a 50 DMG weapon max crit hits for 189 which I do.

http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/5861/189rm1.png

see bolded and huged text.

[Devek]

Explain?

[Lordwafik]

you still post there

[Ryko]

He's saying KI sucks. Personally I disagree to some extent <_<

[NynJa]

you still post there

so do you


my point was that you gotta take information from there with a grain of salt.

[Lordwafik]

you still post there

so do you

I never said I didn't, but i'm not the one who's saying it sucks (yet still posts there).

[Devek]

you still post there

so do you


my point was that you gotta take information from there with a grain of salt.

Well you are sadly mistaken. Click the link before making a hasty attempt to flame KI.

[BRP]

KI has nice job forums, sometimes. That is all.

[Lordwafik]

KI has nice job forums, sometimes. That is all.

Galaxia/Evette drama is the best. I love it anytime Manlaxia posts, anyone remember when she tried to post a SS of her AIM conversation on the remora forums, and she had Mrargus.exe and POS.exe in the background? <3 Remora boards.

Here is an example of manlaxia. Note : (s)He is the OP, posting under an alt account to try and give himself a better rep.

http://ffxi.killvoid.com/forums.php?m=p ... 128130&d=0