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[Rocl]

I'm not counting PUP's Martial Arts trait at all

any 62job /MNK will have Martial Arts III (gained at 31MNK)...

whats so hard to understand that "Enhances Martial Arts" will bump it up to IV?

so a RDM with AF1 hat, AF2 body, and Loq Earring gets Fast Cast VI! ASTOUNDING

job trait on item =! job trait

[Odd]

And the belt isn't a full jump, it's something low. I nkow the dual weild belt is like .01 or some low shit.

Yeah the bulk of the level 30 subjob items (belts, don't know too much about some of those capes/back pieces) are garbage, but if you mention "Increases Dual Wield" on any item in FFXI most people will pay out the ass for it regaurdless of what else can go there.

How much is the Warlock's Mantle's Enhanced Fast Cast compared to other Enhances Fast Cast gear?

[Not Kuno]

All "fast cast" gear sucks ass except for the rdm af pieces that have it.

[Heian]

And the belt isn't a full jump, it's something low. I nkow the dual weild belt is like .01 or some low shit.

Yeah the bulk of the level 30 subjob items (belts, don't know too much about some of those capes/back pieces) are garbage, but if you mention "Increases Dual Wield" on any item in FFXI most people will pay out the ass for it regaurdless of what else can go there.

How much is the Warlock's Mantle's Enhanced Fast Cast compared to other Enhances Fast Cast gear?

Thats the back piece right? I think its acutally another Fast Cast trait. Or people who sub RDM have all the other gear that does it as well it becomes a placebo.

[Enitsu]

Long story short; Sub warrior.

[Rocl]

I'm not counting PUP's Martial Arts trait at all

any 62job /MNK will have Martial Arts III (gained at 31MNK)...

whats so hard to understand that "Enhances Martial Arts" will bump it up to IV?

so a RDM with AF1 hat, AF2 body, and Loq Earring gets Fast Cast VI! ASTOUNDING

job trait on item =! job trait

To make it easier to understand: A WHM/BLM with Loq Earring and Rostrum Pumps would have Fast Cast II by your logic. iirc that's a 10% bonus, however both those items give a 1% bonus to Fast Cast so instead of 10% (Fast Cast II) It's 2%. It would be pretty obvious that the same would go for belt

[Odd]

Long story short; Sub warrior.

when i catch up with your pup Enitsu, we'll parse just for my curiousity

i've got max h2h/str/crit merits also so the only real difference will be race (Galka v. Taru) and subjob

[Enitsu]

Galka vs Taru.. damage parsing.. >.> WHATEVER YOU SAY

[Vixy]

I'm not counting PUP's Martial Arts trait at all

any 62job /MNK will have Martial Arts III (gained at 31MNK)...

whats so hard to understand that "Enhances Martial Arts" will bump it up to IV?

so a RDM with AF1 hat, AF2 body, and Loq Earring gets Fast Cast VI! ASTOUNDING

job trait on item =! job trait

To make it easier to understand: A WHM/BLM with Loq Earring and Rostrum Pumps would have Fast Cast II by your logic. iirc that's a 10% bonus, however both those items give a 1% bonus to Fast Cast so instead of 10% (Fast Cast II) It's 2%. It would be pretty obvious that the same would go for belt

There is no fast cast belt, there is no martial arts belt. Warlock mantle is 5% for /rdm. I don't really know how you can till with martial arts back piece.

[Odd]

I'm not counting PUP's Martial Arts trait at all

any 62job /MNK will have Martial Arts III (gained at 31MNK)...

whats so hard to understand that "Enhances Martial Arts" will bump it up to IV?

so a RDM with AF1 hat, AF2 body, and Loq Earring gets Fast Cast VI! ASTOUNDING

job trait on item =! job trait

To make it easier to understand: A WHM/BLM with Loq Earring and Rostrum Pumps would have Fast Cast II by your logic. iirc that's a 10% bonus, however both those items give a 1% bonus to Fast Cast so instead of 10% (Fast Cast II) It's 2%. It would be pretty obvious that the same would go for belt

there is only ONE item in the game with 'enhances martial arts effect'... so while fast cast or dual wield items may vary per piece as to how strong the effect is, there's nothing to say that Wrestler's doesn't reduce h2h delay by 20 (or 10 or 5 or 25 or whatever)

[Odd]

Galka vs Taru.. damage parsing.. >.> WHATEVER YOU SAY

self-loathing taru ;;

[Elcura]

Berserk alone is enough reason to sub WAR, Double Attack is icing on the cake.

[Enitsu]

Berserk and Double attack still beats the 5skill + -.05 delay you'll get. D:

Just give in. There's no shame.

[aurik]

10% double attack >>>> less than 10% delay reduction.

[Enitsu]

I play taru for one reason. Height advantage.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...taruvision.jpg

[aurik]

I play taru for one reason. Height advantage.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...taruvision.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...hiimenitsu.jpg

[Enitsu]

I just didn' t want her to see me giving her the finger.

[Rocl]

I said belt instead of mantle, oops.(Someone mentioned the Sarashi so ya)
If you're so bent on it being any better than the other job trait enhancing items, buy it and test it out, because I had a witty rebuttal and was looking for links in forums and got distracted lol

[miokomioko]

I had MNK sub for way too long thinking the same thing, that the benefits from my Wrestler's Mantle and Cestus Belt were outweighting what, in the end, would be Berserk, Double Attack and Attack Bonus (warcry pfft).

I was wrong. Just level your subs and observe~

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

Melee rule of thumb: Sub WAR for best damage output. Sub THF for strong single hit WSes. Sub NIN if you're already doing enough damage and need survival.