Attachments?

[miokomioko]

I'm still foggy on how to 'force' a shield bash. Since the JA is Thunder-based, I assumed having Lightning Maneuvers on would up the priority or frequency, which may be true, but I always have a Lightning Maneuver or two up on my Valoredge if I'm using it. That, and I think Shield bash is only used when a mob is casting or using a TP move. As far as I can see there isn't an attachment that affects that JA. Here's my usual Valoredge attachment setup.


Tension Spring
Tension Spring II

Accelerator II

Target Marker
Heat Seeker

Armor Plate II
Analyzer

Auto-Repair Kit II (on AoE-heavy mobs or a PLD tank)
or
Flashbulb (on non-AoEing mobs or a NIN tank)


The rest is filler because they don't affect melee.

[Khamsin]

loldrg
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/7839/lolparsems6.jpg

lvl68 vs bikibay camels

lol, poor loldrg.

And the gap gets wider the closer they get to 75, when they fall behind even the PUPs.

But DRG isn't all bad. DRGs are actually somewhat decent before the 60s, if there's no one else seeking, kinda like PUPs are in the lower levels. Though, in the 60s, WARs, SAMs, DRKs, etc. begin to come out on top. And by 75, the DRKs and SAMs fall behind slightly, while NINs come up a little. But by then, DRG is already long gone.

[doofy]

Shield Bash from the puppet seems to be independant of maneuvers, I've been spamming 3x fire maneuvers testing the Attuner (with almost 0 overloads, which is a surprise) and it still uses it with the same frequency as the normal JA timer. I also dont know if my recent runs with it have been lucky or what, but the stun potency and damage has gone up quite a bit on it with the Attuner + 3 FMs. It was stunning baleful gaze on a regular basis and doing 60-100 damage per "bonk".

I really need a Target Marker soon or Im going to hold off on leveling it for a bit. With 50-60% acc and the Attuner(3 FMs) its parsing 10% on IT mobs (yes, it hits that hard) while Im parsing 18-20%. This is in parties with a bard, war/nin and nin/wars. Hit-for-hit there also isnt anyone doing more damage when 3 FMs are active, and when it crits its not even close. If its accuracy can be bumped up to the supposed 85% with a Target Marker the valoredge frame will put up some rather ridiculous numbers.

Im still waiting on a Besieged to happen while Im on and test the Attuner numbers. Asura didnt have the AC for most of last week and I've missed the few level 1s we've had so far since it was reset. The other thing Im trying to figure out is where exactly the cut off point is for the tier III attachments and what is classified as a "strong enemy".

-Vyzrael (Asura)

[miokomioko]

stuff about Attuner

Pulling the Strings, T-minus 40 minutes.

Let's hear it for Attuner & Tactical Processor drops?? EH?

[Seigfried Of Pandy]

loldrg
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/7839/lolparsems6.jpg

lvl68 vs bikibay camels

lol, poor loldrg.

And the gap gets wider the closer they get to 75, when they fall behind even the PUPs.

But DRG isn't all bad. DRGs are actually somewhat decent before the 60s, if there's no one else seeking, kinda like PUPs are in the lower levels. Though, in the 60s, WARs, SAMs, DRKs, etc. begin to come out on top. And by 75, the DRKs and SAMs fall behind slightly, while NINs come up a little. But by then, DRG is already long gone.

not according to our party the other day with kyou lol. if i remenber i was only minimally behind you guys

[Khamsin]

loldrg
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/7839/lolparsems6.jpg

lvl68 vs bikibay camels

lol, poor loldrg.

And the gap gets wider the closer they get to 75, when they fall behind even the PUPs.

But DRG isn't all bad. DRGs are actually somewhat decent before the 60s, if there's no one else seeking, kinda like PUPs are in the lower levels. Though, in the 60s, WARs, SAMs, DRKs, etc. begin to come out on top. And by 75, the DRKs and SAMs fall behind slightly, while NINs come up a little. But by then, DRG is already long gone.

not according to our party the other day with kyou lol. if i remenber i was only minimally behind you guys

Shhh! I'm pandering to the bandwagoneers!

I was afraid you were lurking out there somewhere. lol I actually wondered if you would see this.

Don't worry, this only applies to other DRGs, not you.

P.S. we need to do assault tonight, we're wasting tags!

[Brendam]

Good Luck Mioko!

GTFO DRG/BST fighters.

[miokomioko]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...ry/attuner.jpg

Time to go to class, but more info later.

I am the happiest pup alive.

[Naerie]

I usually use the RNG Frame with Harlequin/VE head in EXP PT. I try to keep 1 Wind up all the time, then I use the other 2 slots to do Light, Fire, and Thunder.

May I ask why the Harlequin/VE head? I mean, what benefits do you find from using a different head?

Also, someone said earlier they use the Flash attachment on their Sharpshot.. will it use Flash without MP?

I've also never seen my VE use Shield Bash... do you need to have a certain attachment on for that to happen?

Yes, you need the Analyzer attachment equipped for it to Shield Bash. Also, I'm pretty sure it won't Shield Bash the first time the mob uses that TP move, it will attempt it on the 2nd time, hence the description of Analyzer "Increase chance of mitigating the effects of special attacks previously used by the enemy".

[BRP]

Also, someone said earlier they use the Flash attachment on their Sharpshot.. will it use Flash without MP?

I don't believe it is a spell.

[Khamsin]

I usually use the RNG Frame with Harlequin/VE head in EXP PT. I try to keep 1 Wind up all the time, then I use the other 2 slots to do Light, Fire, and Thunder.

May I ask why the Harlequin/VE head? I mean, what benefits do you find from using a different head?

Also, someone said earlier they use the Flash attachment on their Sharpshot.. will it use Flash without MP?

I've also never seen my VE use Shield Bash... do you need to have a certain attachment on for that to happen?

Yes, you need the Analyzer attachment equipped for it to Shield Bash. Also, I'm pretty sure it won't Shield Bash the first time the mob uses that TP move, it will attempt it on the 2nd time, hence the description of Analyzer "Increase chance of mitigating the effects of special attacks previously used by the enemy".

They should add a Dispel attachment, too, like Analyzer but for... dispel.

[Elcura]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...ry/attuner.jpg

Time to go to class, but more info later.

I am the happiest pup alive.

Oh wow... wow oh wow, you pimp. Congrats.

[Toth]

Unbelievable....well, grats to you. What puppet did he call out today?

[miokomioko]

Unbelievable....well, grats to you. What puppet did he call out today?

I definitely got some luck with a Sharpshot.

Flashbulb is a godsend for not getting your ass whooped by Raging Fists, I must say. Save any Light Maneuvers for when the goblin readies dice, so the Fantoccini will be flashed when he (usually) gets TP dice and WS's you in the face.

Just got back from class so I'm going to go play with this now. :D~~~

[miokomioko]

Also, someone said earlier they use the Flash attachment on their Sharpshot.. will it use Flash without MP?

I don't believe it is a spell.

Right, the attachments that say "uses Flash" or "uses Stoneskin" they use the attachment as if it were a Job Ability. No MP used or required.

Mandarin uses Flash Bulb. The Heraldic Imp receives the effect of Flash.

[Enitsu]

I'm praying I get a decent attachment tomorrow. Because if not, I'll have to kill you.

[Not Kuno]

I hear if you kill him you become him.

[Lordwafik]

Last thing gonna say about this derailment. Sorry for getting so off track, but someone who plays neither BST or DRG, and whose only knowledge of BST is with crappy ones (if they honestly ever use a Ridill), should not be dissing a job. And whatever data wafik has is wrong.

You dont play the job and you claim to know more than me? I took it to 75, poured a ton of gil into it, getting AF2 hands, getting them HQ'd even to try and see if it would make a lick of difference, and nope.

If you dont know what the fuck you're talking about, dont talk. Carrie is poo, and he is our "best" pet, there are other pets which are rare, which you cant really compare to since it's like telling a RNG to xp with nothing but PPA's.

And re:ridill, Ridill sucks for BST, I wouldnt use it if I had it, with the amazing D skill.. lol, Temperance axe > Ridill for bst, it's great in my offhand, and anything in sea's exterior pretty much turns into 99 virtue stones. I personally wouldnt turn down a ridill someone offered me, but I wouldnt blind myself into thinking it's better than my A rated weapon.

[Toth]

So damn lucky. Everyone keeps getting the rng frame or mage frame for their ENM and I get Harlequin x 2, valoredge, and rng frame (my sole win with no drop). Well, lets see some data :D

[doofy]

Im having hard time figuring out why people are getting worked in the enm60 unless the mannequin either calls the valoredge frame or gets bullshit dice rolls. Scanning back through this thread, Enitsu posted a strat that is spot on and is almost exactly the same one I use. Use meds, let the puppet do most of the work (it can last a looooong time with repair/self cure IVs) and don't try the A.D.D crap.

Grats on probably being the first pup with both Attuner/Target Marker, I want a Target Marker more than anything else right now as I cant stand Clank's current accuracy in xp. ENM60 #4 for me is on wednesday, at this stage though Ill take any drop over a non drop.

BTW, here are some dmg SS's of recent xp parties post Attuner since some people feel the need to PM me with lame ass remarks saying "VE onry hits for 20-30 you noob":

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m57/ ... g_0238.jpg

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m57/ ... g_0247.jpg

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m57/ ... g_0248.jpg

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m57/ ... g_0251.jpg

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m57/ ... g_0261.jpg

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m57/ ... g_0262.jpg

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m57/ ... g_0271.jpg

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m57/ ... g_0272.jpg

-Vyzrael (Asura)