Attachments?

[miokomioko]

PS I am going to attempt the Maat PUP fight this weekend. Maybe you can get an attachment as a prize from this fight as well? I do not know anyone who has beaten it yet to confirm. Maats fight never dropped anything but then again, this isn't Maat.

As far as I know, no reward to this besides being able to get Lv.71+ If I recall correctly, Enitsu beat it. It's like PUP-ENM60 but quite a bit harder although you can wear much better equipment.

I gave it one half-assed, strategyless attempt where I dual tanked and I got destroyed in no time flat because his automaton, Valkeng, is a Harlequin frame with quite an array of spells to choose from, including GAs, Gravity, etc. I didn't try to kill Valkeng, but the Elvaan dude (forgot his name) doesn't have too much HP, it should be pretty easy to beat with a solid ENM strategy + meds.

Side note, if Valkeng is anything like himself when you fight for AF3, then it might be a good idea to do something that will cause some magic damage to him somehow, forcing him to change to Stormwaker Frame. That is, if he changes frames... I wouldn't know.

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As for ENM60 drops, I'm just bitter about it because I've been 75 for some time now and I'm still very far from equipping the job as best as I can. I just checked Kujata AH, and there's a nameless Tact. Processor that's been put up once, and a Japanese player named Nearco who self-sold a Drum Magazine recently, and when I asked her if she'd sell it, she just replied "That's too bad." It's going to be rather disheartening when I finally find a "tier III" has gone up and actually sold to (I bet) some lv.25 PUP or something.

All in all, these are pretty nice items, but I don't think they anywhere near as game-breaking as this procedure of obtaining all of them implies. ;/

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

PS I am going to attempt the Maat PUP fight this weekend. Maybe you can get an attachment as a prize from this fight as well? I do not know anyone who has beaten it yet to confirm. Maats fight never dropped anything but then again, this isn't Maat.

As far as I know, no reward to this besides being able to get Lv.71+ If I recall correctly, Enitsu beat it. It's like PUP-ENM60 but quite a bit harder although you can wear much better equipment.

I gave it one half-assed, strategyless attempt where I dual tanked and I got destroyed in no time flat because his automaton, Valkeng, is a Harlequin frame with quite an array of spells to choose from, including GAs, Gravity, etc. I didn't try to kill Valkeng, but the Elvaan dude (forgot his name) doesn't have too much HP, it should be pretty easy to beat with a solid ENM strategy + meds.

Side note, if Valkeng is anything like himself when you fight for AF3, then it might be a good idea to do something that will cause some magic damage to him somehow, forcing him to change to Stormwaker Frame. That is, if he changes frames... I wouldn't know.

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As for ENM60 drops, I'm just bitter about it because I've been 75 for some time now and I'm still very far from equipping the job as best as I can. I just checked Kujata AH, and there's a nameless Tact. Processor that's been put up once, and a Japanese player named Nearco who self-sold a Drum Magazine recently, and when I asked her if she'd sell it, she just replied "That's too bad." It's going to be rather disheartening when I finally find a "tier III" has gone up and actually sold to (I bet) some lv.25 PUP or something.

All in all, these are pretty nice items, but I don't think they anywhere near as game-breaking as this procedure of obtaining all of them implies. ;/

They're more powerful than homam and much easier to get. And really, I've had DRK 75 for over a year and don't have the best gear. Its frustrating when it seems like its in your grasp and you don't get it, but just relax, persistance is key.

[Toth]

Yeah but an average DRK 75 will still pwn a PUP. We need these pieces just to catch up.

[aurik]

Shady reSELLER = "Hi. I'd like to buy this rare item, eventhough I don't have PUP unlocked, in order to resell it on the AH for 2x what I paid". Within an hour of setting a seacom I was getting spammed by gilsellers/trash on our server looking to buy/flip and set their own prices for the attachments. Wasn't referring to people who buy and use the attachments, I'd like nothing more than to help out other PUPs on Asura and establish a trading ring for these. As of right now there are around 5 PUPs on Asura above 60, and only 2 above 70 (Im currently the highest @73, damn Faith Torque is holding me back atm or I'd be 75).

-Vyzrael (Asura)

I've got 3 faith organs on a mule. If you can gather a team, I'll let you have the first torque it drops, if it drops. I can always farm more on my upcoming BLM, and I already have a PCC And I wouldn't mind a set of faith baghnaks to store and never use.

[Elcura]

BG has the worst luck with faith torques, god I wish one would drop...

[DragonCloud64]

Hah no wonder people kill the fanto's auto until the stormwaker pops, it's no contest when he's out lol. So he popped stormwaker, and all i had to do was run out of range while it casted things like diaga, bind, and poison. Was so easy, Lol no drops though :/

[Toth]

Revive time!

I am not sure if this means anything but today I won the enm (Sharpshooter frame is a bit tougher to manage than then stormwalker frame but nothing too difficult). I won on windsday and got an Equalizer (and dinged 71 lol). Now, another PUP I was talking to won the enm on iceday and got a Target Marker. Could it be possible that the drop is influenced by the day (ie you win an attachment whose element is the same as the next day's element)?

Oh and I am not using my equalizer based on what I have learned from tests here. I am going to wait and see if I can find someone to trade their excess Target marker for it. Time to play Pokematon.

[Elcura]

isn't target marker thunder? doesn't make sense to get a thunder attachment on iceday by your theory

edit: can't be bothered to check (in a PT) but is it worth manuvering with af gloves on (like do they add even more attack to tension springs etc) or do they just add +1 stat to the manuver?

[DragonCloud64]

And I wouldn't mind a set of faith baghnaks to store and never use.

Why in gods name did SE give PUP Hope Staff instead Of Faith Baghnakhs?? Was it supposed to be some kinda joke? >.>

[Mephisto]

And I wouldn't mind a set of faith baghnaks to store and never use.

Why in gods name did SE give PUP Hope Staff instead Of Faith Baghnakhs?? Was it supposed to be some kinda joke? >.>

Can you equip stones with a puppet out? ._.

[Tahngarthor]

And I wouldn't mind a set of faith baghnaks to store and never use.

Why in gods name did SE give PUP Hope Staff instead Of Faith Baghnakhs?? Was it supposed to be some kinda joke? >.>

Can you equip stones with a puppet out? ._.

Cant equip anything in the throwing slot except automaton oil, as long as the animator is equipped.

[Ryko]

isn't target marker thunder? doesn't make sense to get a thunder attachment on iceday by your theory

edit: can't be bothered to check (in a PT) but is it worth manuvering with af gloves on (like do they add even more attack to tension springs etc) or do they just add +1 stat to the manuver?

Unless he edited it, it makes perfect sense. Iceday is the day before lightningsday.

[doofy]

Elemental day most likely plays no part whatsoever in drops. Its nice to speculate, but as it is with almost everything else in this game it boils down to a /random and getting lucky.

It does suck that the only Jailer weapon they gave us was the staff (another Necro leftover that wasnt changed). Virtue stones go in the Ammo slot so PUP would still be able to equip the Animator, the Repair Oil is what would be replaced.

As far as the af gloves are concerned, any PUP worth a pt slot should be spamming maneuvers so the AF gloves are a piece that I dont remove except for WSing. The "enhance" effect they have seems to only be related to the stat boost (adds 1 to each maneuver) but the overload reduction is well worth it.

-Vyzrael (Asura)

[Elcura]

hmm, I still dunno if it's worth keeping them on instead of light gauntlets or puhluwan for melee hits inbetween. I suppose the overload reduction could be worth it though.

[Tahngarthor]

Virtue stones go in the Ammo slot so PUP would still be able to equip the Animator, the Repair Oil is what would be replaced.
(Asura)

You cant equip items like virtue stones, batteries, hydro pumps etc. with the animator equipped.

[Toth]

The Hope Staff is such a joke for this job. In fact, one of the reasons I even started leveling PUP was because it was usable by PUP and I had mine. Not that I was going to use it at all but it looked fun regardless. PUP doesn't even have Staff skill. Maybe the next update will fix this. Maybe...

[Priran]

The Hope Staff is such a joke for this job. In fact, one of the reasons I even started leveling PUP was because it was usable by PUP and I had mine. Not that I was going to use it at all but it looked fun regardless. PUP doesn't even have Staff skill. Maybe the next update will fix this. Maybe...

death chakram

[miokomioko]

Just dropped 6 merits into Automaton Magic Skill bringing it up to lv.3 which caps Stormwaker's Magic Skill at 246 so it now has Aero III.

Just did some dmg tests on bumblebees for the hell of it.

This is with Pup. Destanas, Loudspeaker and Loudspeaker II (Lightningday, no weather).

Magic Skill: 246
Base INT: 70 (+2~6)

Aero III: 416
Aero III + 1 ice: 456
Aero III + 2 ice: 496
Aero III + 3 ice: 537

Every spell was for the same exact dmg so these are right on, no averaging... Pretty solid pattern of +40 dmg with each maneuver, except for +41 on 3 ice maneuvers (which is unrealistic for practical uses anways).

Gonna' retest this after I get 248 and 250 magic skill to see how it affects unresisted dmg since these numbers are so consistant.

P.S. lolpuks

[Toth]

Thats grest Miokomioko! Can you test it out on some IT/VT exp mobs (not puks hehe)? 2 unresisted shots of that on a mob and there is our burst WS damage (plus dragon kick damage).

[Suiram]

It appears that automaton magic damage is calculated the same as PC magic damage. Looks like the automaton has a starting MAB of 1.15, and that each ice maneuver adds +2 INT and MAB+10. My guess would be that magic skill only affects accuracy, same as PC elemental magic skill, unless it possibly affects the automaton's starting MAB value.