Attachments?

[deakka]

, that's hot

[Toth]

The only problem with the Equalizer from what I have seen is that it is just not effective for the PUP ENM and even with damage reduction, the maton still takes too much damage from HNM and NM's AOE.

[miokomioko]

It seems like it could make a pretty beefy tank IF you could have at least 2 Earth Maneuvers up (def/dmg reduction), 1~2 Dark (smoke screen), 1+ Light (flash/regen), 1 Fire (provoke), and maybe a Wind or two (evasion), all at once.

Limiting the maneuvers to 3 at a time severely limits its capabilities into being worthless on a HNM because all its defensive attachments combined all at once would would be nice, but it's impossible.

[miokomioko]

Equalizer vs. 1000 Needles

No maneuvers: 950 (5% reduction)
1 Maneuver: 870 (13% reduction)
2 Maneuvers: 730 (27% reduction)
3 Maneuvers: 590 (41% reduction)

[DeadLegend]

Does this have the same effect no matter how much damage is being incurred? I thought the idea of this attachment was that the more damage the maton's taking, the more he'll reduce, have you been able to try this out in other situations or on magic? o.o

Those results are sick.

[miokomioko]

I thought the idea of this attachment was that the more damage the maton's taking, the more he'll reduce

That's what I was hoping for when I first read the description long ago, but from what it looks like, "Reduces damage received according to damage taken" is just a vague SE way of saying "Damage taken -X%" based on the number of earth maneuvers, because I messed up a few times and repeated 1000 Needles vs 1 and 2 earth maneuvers and it gave the same result without any variation. Also, I was having it solo the cactuar by itself so its total dmg taken wasn't the exact same each time.

Unless 1000 Needles is magical dmg, I assumed it was physical but I don't really know personally, then I still need to test this with a BLM in ballista or something Elemental Seal nuking it. But it might take a while to do that~

Next 100% Fafnir my LS camps, I'm comin' PUP and if we get claim, I'm going to see about making it backup tank, lolz. Those Automaton vokes are some potent shit~

[Toth]

The only problem with that is an ideal tank setup would be Earth x 2 and 1 Fire. Therefore, a 27% damage reduction (if those are true) to tank. With poor defense, the automaton would still take 300+ a hit I'd wager and make 170+ from an IT.

[Eternus]

You can't heal them anyways. It would be a hard to keep it alive for any length of time against a HNM.

[miokomioko]

You can't heal them anyways. It would be a hard to keep it alive for any length of time against a HNM.

Exactly, but as a backup tank it might work out rather well to pull the heat off PLDs occasionally for at least a moment or two.

30hp/tick regen for 1.5min every 3min.
~27% dmg reduction.
100dmg stoneskin.
Consistant Flashing.
Evasion that increases with battle duration (unknown if it caps)
Potent Provokes.

Just something to save MP and make things go a bit smoother, if not just something new to try and have fun with. Hey, also mobs' automatons have Dragon Killer. I want to see if that holds true for mine. :O

[Tahngarthor]

You can't heal them anyways. It would be a hard to keep it alive for any length of time against a HNM.

Exactly, but as a backup tank it might work out rather well to pull the heat off PLDs occasionally for at least a moment or two.

30hp/tick regen for 1.5min every 3min.
~27% dmg reduction.
100dmg stoneskin.
Consistant Flashing.
Evasion that increases with battle duration (unknown if it caps)
Potent Provokes.

Just something to save MP and make things go a bit smoother, if not just something new to try and have fun with. Hey, also mobs' automatons have Dragon Killer. I want to see if that holds true for mine. :O

You have to put light manuvers up to get the flashing though- that will require you to at least temporairly sacrifice a voke, or some dmg reduction. Remember though, that defense will come into play with the damage taken against things other than 1k needles.

Against somethin like faf he stands a good chance of getting interrupted with cures. Are you talking about harley or valor (which while cant cure itself, does have -way- mroe HP than harley, and may last just as long.) Personally, my provokes have only been very effective with multiple fire manuvers up.

Did you see if the 2hour affects the damage reduction? it does seem to enhance the effect of attachments (besides the overload immunity), as attack damage with the attuner and TS2 goes up somewhat when I use Overdrive.

[Toth]

I have never felt more tempted to quit this job than tonight. Here is my conversation with the PUP 48 I was talking about (bcnm thief, general self proclaimed whore, etc)

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...s/img_0057.png
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...s/img_0058.png
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...s/img_0059.png
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...s/img_0060.png
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...s/img_0061.png

If she is a PUP 75 soon, I want no part of the job.

Edit: oh and add this: http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b76/RPGTess/poof.jpg

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

...toth, just because you think that only 60+ people should have them doesnt mean its true. If it were true there would be level limits. If they go on the AH they're fair game for whoever is willing to pay the price. Welcome to free market economics.

[Toth]

It's more the person who is buying them that is the problem...

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

Have you SEEN the people who play DRK? I know what you're talking about man. Don't let her get you down.

[miokomioko]

Sorta' like if new rare (and good) bard songs were released and Grunion bought them all?

[Elmer the Pointy]

I don't get it... from the the pictures you show it looks like Poof is the perfect person to buy those attachments.

She's dedicated to giving the job a good name and realizes to bring out it's potential you can't just button mash and AFK.

Meanwhile, everytime you hit a bump in the road, you curse SE's name and threaten to quit the job.

Should you have all those attachments?

By the way, PUP/DRG gets Attk Bonus, +5% Haste earring and +6 Attk mantle. It's not exactly the worst choice you can make'.


EDIT: I realize that Poof may be some horrible person I don't know about since I'm on Gilgamesh. But half your posts on here and KI are rants about quitting and those pictures you post aren't exactly damning evidence of Poof's noob-ness

[Toth]

Bingo, Mioko. I checked the AH and she bought all the new pieces for 2.5-3 million AFTER they dropped down to 2 (attuner) and 1.5 (the rest). Personally, I would only buy the attuner and TM if I could but she paid 14-18 million total for the attachments. Stealing Peacock Charms and (get this) charging people to open the Garliage Citadel door has benefits after all.

Max, I really have no huge problem with pups under 60 buying the parts but not buying 7/8 of them at those prices AND the pup being known as complete trash (Ryko, please assist me here with some stories).

God, I am emo. Please forgive me. I at least can say Serenade and I did very well on Byakko today. Not fantastic damage but not bad considering how broken we are.

[Toth]

Elmer, you don't know who she is. She is the LAST person on our server who will give the job a good name and WILL greatly to ruin its reputation. As I said before, she manaburned her 73 blm wearing a shaman's cloak and mp gear. That's only one tale of Poof.

[Elmer the Pointy]

Well, bottom line is this: Don't get too caught up in what Poof is doing.

Maybe she's a retard... there's plenty on my server. But when you get all bent out of shape over what they do, you stop having fun.

She's plinking away at crabs with a 5 million dollar crossbow and you were testing out PUP strats on Byakko. You should look at the benefits of your situation and take advantage of them.

Keep practicing and I know you'll be a better PUP for it.

[Toth]

Actually, thats the best advice I have heard in a bit, Elmer, and I appreciate it. Just another PUP hurdle to climb I suppose. But one thing, Elmer. I only rant about the pup enm (and too much I know). Despite the constant comments and general shudder of the endgame community, I truly believe in PUP and its future. Hey, even after all that, I, and many PUPs I am sure, are still here!