Attachments?

[aurik]

If she's got 68m more to spend on the job, tell her to pay back the money she scammed from that BCNM, lol.

[Vobent]

I also believe PUP has real potential.
I wanna level it after my WAR, but everytime I bring it up I get responses like "ahhhhhh...no" I'LL SHOW EM!

[Toth]

That is def the right mindset, Vobent. Hopefully Mioko can back me up on this a bit but PUP can do solid damage on endgame mobs, just nothing spectacular. We need some tier 4 attachments now. Any ideas on what would be good examples? Tension Spring III perhaps?

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

I also believe PUP has real potential.
I wanna level it after my WAR, but everytime I bring it up I get responses like "ahhhhhh...no" I'LL SHOW EM!

Welcome to the life of the gimps. You are joining the elite ranks of...
The Dragoon! Master of...jumping.
The PreAbs-TP Dark Knight! Master of missing a 8.5 second delay swing.
The Damage SMN! Master of pulling out a semi-impressive number every minute but being useless in between!

Welcome to the club.

[Vobent]

I need sleep (running on sugar) so dunno if this might be bad, but maybe a attachment that acts as a elemental seal/barrage for the appropiate puppet might be good.

I mean VE already has shield bash, why not add other PC abilities?


<edit> the real question is where would they come from?

[Toth]

But Max, they can spike damage at least If the maton had a weaponskill for 300+ damage, then we would be talking good things.

[Vobent]

I also believe PUP has real potential.
I wanna level it after my WAR, but everytime I bring it up I get responses like "ahhhhhh...no" I'LL SHOW EM!

Welcome to the life of the gimps. You are joining the elite ranks of...
The Dragoon! Master of...jumping.
The PreAbs-TP Dark Knight! Master of missing a 8.5 second delay swing.
The Damage SMN! Master of pulling out a semi-impressive number every minute but being useless in between!

Welcome to the club.

I was that DMG SMN before I dropped it. And I staticed with a preABS TP DRK friend, ah..good times...Or not.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

But Max, they can spike damage at least If the maton had a weaponskill for 300+ damage, then we would be talking good things.

PUP:DoT::DRK/THF:Spike Damage

Entirely focused on that without any of the other.

[Vobent]

But Max, they can spike damage at least If the maton had a weaponskill for 300+ damage, then we would be talking good things.

Maybe attachments that unluck super-duper awsome WSes? :D


<edit> or make TS effect WSes

[miokomioko]

Automaton DoT is decent.

Automaton WSs are pathetic.

FFXI developers need to see what PUP, as a job, is up against in terms of usefulness in an exp pt or against any number of HNMs by observing players and not just form their 'adjustments' by their theories, which apparently include (but are not limited to) SAM holding hate, SMN letting their avatars melee, RDM nuking and meleeing, BST exping in parties, et cetera, et cetera.

I don't like the idea of PUP being somewhat of a 'jack of all trades but a master of none.' BLU, on the other hand was implimented well with a lot of variety to what they were capable of, but having to focus on one to really deliver (and they can) in that department, whether it be dmg/enfeebling/healing.

It's like SE disregards that people actually wear stat-enhancing equipment when trying to compare players' stats with automaton stats. Yeah, my Valoredge has like 80 STR, but most WARs end up having twice as much from their equipment when they WS. Yeah my Sharpshot has like 80 AGI, last I checked, most RNG have a shitload more than that. Stormwaker 75 INT? Whoopty doo, no wonder it Aero IIIs Gods for 14 dmg.

[Elmer the Pointy]

I always wondered if Tier 4 were added if SE would put them as drops in the LimitBreak 5 fight.
Since it's fun here's a few ideas:

Libra Directive(Ice) - Automaton nukes according to enemey weakness
Ice Manuever: Automaton will Magic Burst according to skillchain at 2x mp cost
2 Manuevers: 1.5x cost
3 Manuevers: at cost

When Kintoki has Bursted accidently, the damage was pretty nice. I'd like to see an attachment that makes the mage bot act more like a mage besides just spam nuking their highest spell. This could let them nuke "smart" on their normal timer and get a bonus nuke when a skillchain is detected. However, a bonus nuke should have it's price, which is 2x mp cost... but it can be lowered with extra Ice Manuevers.

Empathy Chip(Light) - Allows Automaton to Cure party members
Light Manuever: 50% hp
2 Manuevers: 60% hp
3 Manuevers: 70% hp

The robot is so good at healing, it really should be allowed to assist the party as well. It still has that timer so it's not like it will replace a WHM anytime soon.

Rocket Punch(Thunder) - Automaton uses Shield Bash more effectively

I've seen Kintoki stun Incinerate on those Erucas several times saving the tank 300-500hp of damage. But how many times have you watched a mob get off a TP attack to have your robot pathetically slap it with his noodle arm way too late? I'd like to see an attachment that lets the robot Shield Bash a TP attack on time when it tries. Increase the reflexes and lower the recast timer as well.

[Elemetal Memory Upgrades?] Takes a slot of one element to add an extra slot to the element it 'beats' i.e.
Memory Upgrade(Fire) - Adds one slot to Ice

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Also, there may be new frames in the future. I play JP version and the current frames aren't named according to function but after signs of the Zodiac. You have:

Colbalt Aries - Harlequin
White Cancer - Valoredge
Hazel Saggitarius - Sharpshot
Carmine Scorpio - Stormwaker

This naming scheme would suggest that there could be more frames planned for the future for the other Zodiacs. Could be wishful thinking, but we'll see.

Sorry for the huge post. The job is a lot of fun and I enjoy talking about it's possibilities.

Nynja Edit: Btw I'm PUP 65

[miokomioko]

Colbalt Aries - Harlequin
White Cancer - Valoredge
Hazel Saggitarius - Sharpshot
Carmine Scorpio - Stormwaker

Those names sound so much more badass, wonder why they had to go and change them to such cheesy, cliche` crap.

[Toth]

Wow@ at the japanese names. They sound soooo cool. Oh well, we are stuck with the Americanized versions.

Oh and make any new attachments craftable or dropped from NMs. No more of this reward from enm crap. Although, you can at least do the limit break quest once a day...

[Elcura]

localization is a beautiful thing

[Toth]

Ever play Final Fantasy V? They translated Wyvern to Y-Burns among other things.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

Ever play Final Fantasy V? They translated Wyvern to Y-Burns among other things.

WHAT THE FUCK?

I only played the fan translations...wow...thats...wow

[Toth]

Yup. However, they are redoing the whole translation for the GBA release. Thank god.

[Elmer the Pointy]

No, you guys don't understand.

You see Wyverns in FFV are rare creatures and were first discovered by King Yancy VII on a pilgrimage to the Northern continents. When he first found Wyverns he simply thought they were dragons. However, his squire pointed out the lack of frontal arms.

To avoid confusion, King Yancy branded this new breed of lizard with a "Y" so that all could differentiate Wyverns from their draconic cousins. However, these mighty beasts still had no name to call their own, so the term Y-Burns was born, referring to the symbol that was seared into their flesh.

.........

yeah...

[Not Kuno]

o.O

[DragonCloud64]

Empathy Chip(Light) - Allows Automaton to Cure party members
Light Manuever: 50% hp
2 Manuevers: 60% hp
3 Manuevers: 70% hp

Hell they could add just that and i'd be happy, sad to see an automaton with a seemingly endless MP supply sit back and only cure IV the master who barely ever gets hit.