Mijin Gakure damage and how to boost it

[Khamsin]

Maybe rather than magic or "spiritual damage" categories, etc. its just the moves that are meant to be unresistable predictable damage based on a simple set equation (e.g. HP and TP, MND and # of Boosts, or the static 508 of Nether Blast, etc.) that do 0 to hydra.

It would make sense, since none of those moves are capable of a true resist (other than hard magic resist that simply cuts all non-physical damage by a percentage). So there's likely no formula to do a natural resist by for Hydra (e.g. one that compares skill or stats to see whether your Chi Blast or Spirits Within does full damage) So the simple solution is just to make it do 0 damage, rather than bother inventing some method of stat comparison to determine resists just for Hydra. For other magic resists, they simply just boosed his MDB and/or INT and called it good enough.

[Jensken]

or maybe make nin nms actually die after they mijin?? but then they'd be too easy right?

Dude you're riding a moose

[Thaesus]

I think the trick is to Mijin while being the only person engaged on kited mobs where lots of people are trying to steal the claim. King Behemoth would be a great choice.

Also make sure to do it just when it hits 1% so you won't quite kill it.

QFTW Good ol' Migard.
From all the times I have seen ninjas blow up, it seems around 75%, but it looks like it can get resisted.

[Lockecole]

This is me... running straight in... unbuffed... no debuffs on Vrtra... I had around 1250hp (Hume HP FTL)

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15...mijinvrtra.jpg

I'm pretty sure, that as long as it's not resisted, Mijin is about 75% of your max HP.

looks to be 87.44% damage Mijin, from the HP he stated ( 1250 )

Meh... I was in a uncapped ballista with a Galka 75 NIN once, and he Mijined in the middle, of a group of mages on our team, and killed them all... dunno if he had a Giant's Drink in effect, or what his Subjob was... but man... that surprised me... I keep chat filters on in ballista though, so I can't guess at what the numbers were...

Wow seriously stop posting. (a conclusion I've come to far before this post) First of all Mijin Gakure is single cast when a player does it....so how he dropped "a group of mages" with it boggles my mind. He probably used Self-Destruct and was a BLU or you're blind.

Also he stated that he approx had 1250HP. I assumed he was off on his HP, and based off what I have seen previously I've come to the conclusion of 75%. 87.44% seems kinda random.

[Heian]

I have always assumed that Mijin is a fire based magical damage JA. Now as far as mobs goes, mainly HNM. I think its just a matter of Elemental Resitence + Magic Defense Bonus. If you get through both very little or no resist its pretty nice damage. Mijin was the only thing on NIN I never took the time too look too much into because of the two delay in trying again.

[Zigma]

I strongly think it's some what based on HP.

[Balduran]

<3 Mijin Gakure on Vrtra!

[Hellboy]

The secret is going afk when duelist chapeau drops with 4 minutes remaining in dynamis when I have the highest lot and making me cry for the next 3 weeks

[Garret]

Had to have had less than 4 minutes left, items auto-distribute in 3.

[NynJa]

Had to have had less than 4 minutes left, items auto-distribute in 3.

I could have sworn its 5.

[Ryko]

it is 5.

"Ok did anyone get faf TOD?"

"No"

"Incredible, don't pass on all the crap so I can determine it from autoloot distribution"

*everyone passes*

"..."

"What"

"Y'know what? Nevermind"

[tryon]

This is me... running straight in... unbuffed... no debuffs on Vrtra... I had around 1250hp (Hume HP FTL)

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15...mijinvrtra.jpg

I'm pretty sure, that as long as it's not resisted, Mijin is about 75% of your max HP.

looks to be 87.44% damage Mijin, from the HP he stated ( 1250 )

Meh... I was in a uncapped ballista with a Galka 75 NIN once, and he Mijined in the middle, of a group of mages on our team, and killed them all... dunno if he had a Giant's Drink in effect, or what his Subjob was... but man... that surprised me... I keep chat filters on in ballista though, so I can't guess at what the numbers were...

Wow seriously stop posting. (a conclusion I've come to far before this post) First of all Mijin Gakure is single cast when a player does it....so how he dropped "a group of mages" with it boggles my mind. He probably used Self-Destruct and was a BLU or you're blind.

Also he stated that he approx had 1250HP. I assumed he was off on his HP, and based off what I have seen previously I've come to the conclusion of 75%. 87.44% seems kinda random.

I /THINK/ they changed Mijin to AoE in ballista, it is in brenner anyways.. last time i played

[RKenshin]

it is 5.

"Ok did anyone get faf TOD?"

"No"

"Incredible, don't pass on all the crap so I can determine it from autoloot distribution"

*everyone passes*

"..."

"What"

"Y'know what? Nevermind"

Yeah, it's definately 5 minutes on the dot outside of Dynamis.. However, I'm pretty sure that in dynamis it's 3 minutes. Which would also explain why they have a 3 minute warning instead of a 5 minute warning.

Next dynamis I'll go and time it to see for sure, if I remeber correctly rare and ex and rare/ex items never drop before the auto-distribute timer is done as long as it's not passed or lotted by everyone there.

[aurik]

On a side note, coins in dynamis have higher loot-pool stickiness than synth materials now.

And it's 3 minutes in dynamis.

[RKenshin]

Yeah, synth materials drop almost as fast as they land in the pool now.

[Russta]

I didn't know it was 3 minutes in Dynamis, learn something everyday!

Still, when Valor Breeches dropped on Sunday, it felt like 30 minutes.

[Kero]

Update your journal please ruken;;

[Krandor]

On a side note, coins in dynamis have higher loot-pool stickiness than synth materials now.

And it's 3 minutes in dynamis.

"now"? As far as my memory extends it's been like that more then a year, for at least as long as I've been doing dynamis I remember it being like that.

[aurik]

On a side note, coins in dynamis have higher loot-pool stickiness than synth materials now.

And it's 3 minutes in dynamis.

"now"? As far as my memory extends it's been like that more then a year, for at least as long as I've been doing dynamis I remember it being like that.

I could have sworn that synth materials used to kick out the coins, indicating that they had the same priority in the loot pool. I only recently noticed that synth mats were autolotting immediately because we had 10 coins sitting in the queue.

[Dammerung]

I timed drops in Dynamis a few months ago and it was 5 minutes

Pretty sure defense plays a role in Mijin damage, at least mob to player. Tonberry NM did a consistant amount of damage, then when I got hit with defense down, it did significantly more.